# Need Help With Two Mixes / Fallout & Young Female Attraction **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 28, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021 "2016-05-28T05:40:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2016, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/1 "2016-05-28T05:40:47Z")
Hello, All I’m new to the forum but have already introduced myself in the introduction thread and have made a couple of orders. The first was for IS, TUTH, AMMO. I used mixes of the three for the past few weeks with a lot of success, so after reading the forum further and learning about fallout I recently ordered IH, and [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/) b. All of the products are the TOGO sprays. About me I’m a 36 year-old black man well built. I’m still tinkering with the mixes but I wanted input on achieving two separate goals. The first is to attract women between in their early and late twenties and the second is to create fallout in a certain female who is 29 and Latina. I was thinking of using a fallout mix for her of A314 (1 spray on the neck), IH (1 spray on each wrist), IS (1 spray on the neck layered on top of A314). For attraction of younger women, I’m currently using AMMO (1 spray on the chest) and IS (1 spray on the neck). I use TUTH (1 spray on the chest) and IS (1 spray on the neck) in more intimate situations. As I stated earlier I want to create fallout in my target but continue to date and keep my options open while waiting to see if that takes effect, since I know fallout can take months to occur due to do having to withdrawal to create symptoms missing and desire. I’m looking for any and all recommendations, critiques, and advice about my mixes and application points. Also, if you could provide input about creating fallout and best mix for attraction for women in the age range I seek based upon the products I currently own. Thanking you in advance and much appreciation for and all help. ---
**Author:** ![Spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@Spectrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spectrum)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/2 "2016-05-29T13:59:36Z")
There are already veey good threads on fallout. Its not a wasy thing to achive. Would suggest you to get p74 in next order. Its pretty usefull in fallout mix. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/3 "2016-06-02T23:08:06Z")
Hello Spectrum, Thanks for replying. I did a thorough search for info on fallout mixes and I did see many members saying it’s great for a fallout mix, especially Mobocaster. I’m going to order it in my next order but wanted advice for using what I currently have. Recently I spent a couple of days with my target and used: IH: 1 spray on each wrist IS: 1 spray on each side of my neck A314: 1 spray to upper chest lower neck area TUTH: 1 spray to lower chest I feel like the response was good. I felt some of the self effects but she would occasional say that I seemed cold. Could that be due to the A314? Also, feel like the mix could have been sexualized more but wasn’t sure about using two sprays of TUTH. Any further help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/4 "2016-06-04T23:25:37Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > Hello Spectrum, > Thanks for replying. I did a thorough search for info on fallout mixes and I did see many members saying it’s great for a fallout mix, especially Mobocaster. > > I’m going to order it in my next order but wanted advice for using what I currently have. > > Recently I spent a couple of days with my target and used: > > IH: 1 spray on each wrist > IS: 1 spray on each side of my neck > A314: 1 spray to upper chest lower neck area > TUTH: 1 spray to lower chest > > I feel like the response was good. I felt some of the self effects but she would occasional say that I seemed cold. Could that be due to the A314? Also, feel like the mix could have been sexualized more but wasn’t sure about using two sprays of TUTH. > > Any further help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again. what’s up, that seems good on paper. When all else fails use rone sulfate or taa type things to the mix. If that fails too then add androstadienone in high doses. If that fails too then we are all @ucked. If that does not work then cover everything with joop, very strong cologne. If that does not work too, please don’t come here and say mones are fake. Anyway with the advice above, you will get hits. No need to be social, just go out and report. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/5 "2016-06-06T07:42:53Z")
Thanks Crashbandicoot for the recommendations of different things to try and you did it with a hilarious twist.. I’m going to look into the things you mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/6 "2016-06-06T18:09:13Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > I feel like the response was good. I felt some of the self effects but she would occasional say that I seemed cold. Could that be due to the A314? Also, feel like the mix could have been sexualized more but wasn’t sure about using two sprays of TUTH. It could be but I’d hazzard a guess it might be the TUTH, if it was in an environment where hse felt uncomfortable about openly expressing a sexual/attraction response - Another possibility is that apart from its fallout properties, A314/IH/IS is an excellent but very full-on communication mix and she might just be wondering about and holding back on her sudden desire to tell you every secret her heart posesses. And that’s a good thing because you don’t want to be an emotional mop-up for her - bring her round to something attractive/sexy instead. ;0 What environment were you wearing the mix in? This is an important factor for overtness - if it was work or somewhere sedate, hold back on the sexual till you can get her somewhere she can slip her guard a bit At 29/36, Latina/Black, I would suggest going a bit higher when its appropriate and a lot higher when you get somewhere she can really drop her defences. 🙂 Otherwise, as a base mix that is great for regular exposure/withdrawal cycles. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/7 "2016-06-07T08:38:23Z")
Thank you Mobocaster for your response. I was hoping that you would reply to my post. I’ve read many of your post on fallout mixes and incorporated a lot of your advice into my mix and plan on purchasing p74 with my next order. I took a lot from your post on mixes but got even more out of your post on relationships in general and your thoughts on exposure and withdrawal. I believe it was the TUTH as well but I wanted to add a sexual vibe to the mix, since I know you say A314 can come across fatherly. I was going to use AMMO but after reading different post I felt it would clash with A314. You’re correct in the fact that I’m not trying to be and emotional mop-up or a shoulder to cry on. I want to keep it attractive and sexy. We had dinner at a pizza joint, so I figured I could get away with the TUTH. As far as exposure and withdrawal goes, how often should I communicate with her via text and phone calls and how often should I see her? I’m well aware that in order for fallout to occur I have to create value by withdrawing but I want to understand more about the gamesmanship of this which to me is as important as the mixes. Also, what does p74 add that really makes fallout occur versus what I’m currently using. Thank you again Mobocaster the reply is much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/8 "2016-06-07T17:48:12Z")
If you are looking to promote fallout, keep any [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to the least possible amount in your mix (umless you are using A1) - Maybe one spray for scent but that’s it. TBH, you base mix is good balancing for a fairly robust dose of TUTH in the right environments. At other times, let it carry the bonding/connection/fallout building aspects without a sexual. She needs to appreciate you on all levels - and at 29, she is getting into the age ange where A314 really begins to work on an attraction level on its own - Mostly its around much younger women that the fatherly thing needs to be watched. However, Ammo and a smaller amount of A314 is a good mix in other ways, with an excellent age range and shouldn’t be discounted for occasional one-night use in fun/sexy environments. Even the most hard-assed alphas usually benefit from letting their hair down now and then to have a good laugh! Once fallout begins to set-in, you can use the occasional non-fallout mix without greatly disturbing its overall progress. Texts - Keep them to the absolute bare minimum to keep in touch with her. You need to signal your scarcity and self respect in **all ways** and being at her beck and call constantly on your phone is just about as bad as being her puppy in person. Shake it up certainly and sometimes be communicative but at other times cut right back and keep her waiting - Never be too predictable/available to her. Most women have umpteen guy-friends/hopeful suitors willing to talk constantly on the phone or drop everything and run to their aid but the guy who turns her-on and she remembers will almost certainly be the one who won’t. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/9 "2016-06-08T09:55:37Z")
Thank you again for the taking the time to reply Mobocaster. I’m going to focus on using the base mix until I get p74 and only utilize the TUTH in the right environments. I meet with her tonight for dinner again. I used: A314: 2 sprays (1 spray behind each ear) IH: 2 sprays (1 spray on the inside of each forearm) IS: 2 sprays (1 spray on each side of my neck) She laughed a lot and was far more open this time and discussed topics and things I was surprised that she did. All in all, I can say the mix worked. I didn’t get the opportunity to use the TUTH but I did see some success with the mix. I look forward to adding p74 and would like to hear more about what it adds to the mix. Good to know that I can switch up mixes once fallout begins to take hold and use some of the more fun mixes. **What are the signs that fallout is beginning to set in?** I’ve been keeping texts and communication to the bare minimum and saving most of our communication for in person meetings, so if she desires my time and energy I have value and need something in return. Remaining unpredictable and not telegraphing my feelings is what I am working on the most. She’s an attractive woman and I’m sure she has quite a few sycophants, guy friends, and would be suitors and I want to separate myself from the pack. I’ve been the type of guy that was always there for women and played the role of the sympathetic ear and it got me nowhere. I’ve adopted doing less and caring less and have had much more success with women. It’s difficult at times because I operated the other way for so long and its genuinely part of my personality to care and be helpful but women have no love or respect for the nice guy. I really like this woman and I’ve sleep with her a few times and the sex is good and I can tell she likes me as well but she is a master of her emotions. She also lives a couple of hours from me so we only get to hookup occasionally. She’s talked about me visiting her this weekend. I told her I’ll think about it. **If I do should I wear the same mix the whole weekend?** Thank you again for all the input and advice it’s greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/10 "2016-06-08T13:53:44Z")
Yes - for the moment, stick to the same base mix around her whenever you see her. This, will help build connection/memory and the periods of withdrawal will help hammer it home better. It sounds like you are doing all the right things - but you may find you can use TUTH more effectively when you add-in [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). IH/P74 is a good social moderator combo so adding a small amount of TUTH will help keep it in balance more widely. Signs of fallout are many and varied - most normally she will start wanting to find reasons to be around you or be in-touch with you much more often, she will start valuing your opinions on everything, maybe want to share/do more and more stuff with you. This stage needs to be handled carefully - as you do need to respond/reward/engage with her on some level but you also need to keep the withdrawal cycles/attraction building behaviour going apace. So again being unpredictable helps - engage with her as she wants occasionally but leave her wanting at other times. You don’t need to be uncaring/a bit of a dick about it either - just that you need to convey with genuine conviction that you have important priorities in your own life and she has to fit in to them - and most quality women will appreciate and respond positively to that. If she won’t then that itself is a major red flag. An A314-based mix conveys solid reliability, respectability and personal integrity, so being congruent with that will help you and send attractive signals at the same time. As fallout strengthens further, there may be be overtones of jealousy, possessiveness, “emergencies” that only you can help her with and inevitably passion. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/11 "2016-06-09T09:05:55Z")
Thank you again Mobocaster. I’m going to stick with the base mix for the moment and add p74 when I can. I also appreciate the breakdown of signs of fallout. I’ll return here to keep the forum posted or may even start a journal. Thank you again. You were a big help it’s much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Xplic1T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ed655f/32.png) [@Xplic1T](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xplic1T)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/12 "2016-06-16T09:38:40Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > Thank you again Mobocaster. I’m going to stick with the base mix for the moment and add p74 when I can. I also appreciate the breakdown of signs of fallout. I’ll return here to keep the forum posted or may even start a journal. Thank you again. You were a big help it’s much appreciated. hows it been going ? This thread is inspiring me to actually give this a shot … Also can you list the strengths you have. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/13 "2016-06-16T22:49:59Z")
> [@Xplic1T](#): > > hows it been going ? > > This thread is inspiring me to actually give this a shot … Also can you list the strengths you have. You should definitely give it a shot. I’ve been doing some targeted testing and I’ve been satisfied with the results so far. I’ve haven’t used the mix much at work due to preferring to use them in my personal life, so I can’t speak to its effectiveness in professional environments. I’m actually going out of town with a group of guys and girls and plan on testing a couple of mixes. My fallout will be in attendance as well. **Current Arsenal** A314 (1.32B) TUTH - regular strength AMMO - regular strength IH (1X) IS (1X) P74 - 7.5 mcg [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) - 10 mcg Here are some links to awesome threads for a ton of advice and tips on fallout. **Mobocaster’s Journal:** > [@Mobocaster - Journal.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mobocaster-journal/52416): > > Well guys, my previous attempts at short term journals have died a death but I’ll try to keep this one more regular and updated. So I’ll start with a biggie - I’ve always wondered how my wearing pheros would go down with my ex from my longest relationship. On friday night, I found out: Miss Red and I were in a supermarket getting a few things-in for the weekend and whilst she was choosing some stuff, I sloped off to the tobacco counter and on completing my purchase, I turned to find my ex sta… **Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD:** > [@Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789): > > Comrades, I have been occupied these last few days perfecting a very special weapon in the Great Pheremone Arms Race. While members of this forum continue to brew mixes for meeting and attracting fine young ladies in social settings, I have taken it upon myself to pursure a slightly different kind of mix. Something catering to the less, shall we say, “sportsman like” sentimentality? A brew not meant to be wielded by soldiers on the front lines, storming bars and classrooms to chalk up a wanton … ---
**Author:** ![Xplic1T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ed655f/32.png) [@Xplic1T](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xplic1T)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/14 "2016-06-17T03:22:50Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > You should definitely give it a shot. I’ve been doing some targeted testing and I’ve been satisfied with the results so far. I’ve haven’t used the mix much at work due to preferring to use them in my personal life, so I can’t speak to its effectiveness in professional environments. > > I’m actually going out of town with a group of guys and girls and plan on testing a couple of mixes. My fallout will be in attendance as well. > > **Current Arsenal** > A314 (1.32B) > TUTH - regular strength > AMMO - regular strength > IH (1X) > IS (1X) > P73 - 7.5 mcg > P83 - 10 mcg > > Here are some links to awesome threads for a ton of advice and tips on fallout. > > [Mobocaster - Journal.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mobocaster-journal/52416) > > **Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD:** > > [Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789) You mean [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) ? Also is your batch of A314 rev 32 ? > [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes - for the moment, stick to the same base mix around her whenever you see her. This, will help build connection/memory and the periods of withdrawal will help hammer it home better. > > It sounds like you are doing all the right things - but you may find you can use TUTH more effectively when you add-in P74. IH/P74 is a good social moderator combo so adding a small amount of TUTH will help keep it in balance more widely. > > Signs of fallout are many and varied - most normally she will start wanting to find reasons to be around you or be in-touch with you much more often, she will start valuing your opinions on everything, maybe want to share/do more and more stuff with you. This stage needs to be handled carefully - as you do need to respond/reward/engage with her on some level but you also need to keep the withdrawal cycles/attraction building behaviour going apace. So again being unpredictable helps - engage with her as she wants occasionally but leave her wanting at other times. > > You don’t need to be uncaring/a bit of a dick about it either - just that you need to convey with genuine conviction that you have important priorities in your own life and she has to fit in to them - and most quality women will appreciate and respond positively to that. If she won’t then that itself is a major red flag. An A314-based mix conveys solid reliability, respectability and personal integrity, so being congruent with that will help you and send attractive signals at the same time. > > As fallout strengthens further, there may be be overtones of jealousy, possessiveness, “emergencies” that only you can help her with and inevitably passion. Mobocaster, mind telling us what strengths are you using? I want to make sure I don’t get the wrong thing. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/15 "2016-06-17T03:55:28Z")
Yes [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and A314 rev 32 but the spray. ---
**Author:** ![Xplic1T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ed655f/32.png) [@Xplic1T](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xplic1T)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/16 "2016-06-17T04:06:38Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > Yes P74 and A314 rev 32 but the spray. Looks like they got the oil of the A314 back … anybody recommend this revision ? $109 is a bit steep. I remember when it was $69. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/17 "2016-06-17T04:15:28Z")
> [@Xplic1T](#): > > Looks like they got the oil of the A314 back … anybody recommend this revision ? > > $109 is a bit steep. I remember when it was $69. That’s the oil. I bought the spray to start. Link below. [Shop - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/shop/) ---
**Author:** ![Xplic1T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ed655f/32.png) [@Xplic1T](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xplic1T)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/18 "2016-06-17T04:21:23Z")
> [@neophyte79](#): > > That’s the oil. I bought the spray to start. Link below. > > [Shop - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/shop/) Thanks for the help so far neophyte. “Revision A” seems to be like 1.5x strength per drop of oil and “Revision B” is 1x a drop strength from what I gather. This was the link I was referring to. They don’t sell the oil in 5 mg do they ? [Shop - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/shop/) says they have 16 in stock. ---
**Author:** ![neophyte79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/858c86/32.png) [@neophyte79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/neophyte79)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/19 "2016-06-17T05:22:32Z")
> [@Xplic1T](#): > > Thanks for the help so far neophyte. > > “Revision A” seems to be like 1.5x strength per drop of oil and “Revision B” is 1x a drop strength from what I gather. > > This was the link I was referring to. They don’t sell the oil in 5 mg do they ? > > [Shop - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/shop/) says they have 16 in stock. You’re welcome. I know how overwhelming starting down this path can be but very rewarding as well. That is correct. No they do not. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2016, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021/20 "2016-06-17T10:18:51Z")
> [@Xplic1T](#): > > You mean P74 ? > > Mobocaster, mind telling us what strengths are you using? I want to make sure I don’t get the wrong thing. I keep [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in 7.5 and 15mcg concentrations. TUTH is generally 2x, mainly because of my age - A younger guy could do better by stating with 1x if they don’t know their dose range but moving to 2x if the number of sprays work out is a viable proposition - Remember that P74 is a pretty good None moderator. Around 30 is a bit of a turning point for sexual dose IME - for both women and men. As we age, more overt sexuals can be used more widely and more effectively. P74 dose is pretty flexible and to some extent depends on the environment and sexual element. Very generally I find it best to keep P74 below 30mcg total in base mixes with a sexual/romantic intent but if you are using it professionally to help foster trust/connection on a professional/nonsexual level, then you can dose higher. I’d tend to use 45mcg there but have gone up to 60mcg. You can still turn this sexual but you would need a much higher sexual e.g. TUTH or NPA dose when you get out side work. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-help-with-two-mixes-fallout-young-female-attraction/66021.md?page=2)