# Need ideas **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987 "2008-01-03T02:16:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DirtyTurtle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@DirtyTurtle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DirtyTurtle)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/1 "2008-01-03T02:16:15Z")
So I am going to teach a girl how to snowboard in another week and I figured I would have a little fun. She has a b/f. I am married. I’m not looking to have “relations” with her, but I DO like to flirt and have fun. What do you suggest wearing? I have [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TUTH, IS, and IF magic. ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/2 "2008-01-03T02:24:55Z")
> [@DirtyTurtle](#): > > I’m not looking to have “relations” with her, but I DO like to flirt and have fun. > > What do you suggest wearing? I have Ammo, Turn Up The Heat, IS, and IF magic. I think the two social products should be primary. Instant Shine and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Because you are age 30, you probably still have good -none production in your ordinary signature, so you won’t need the other two. If you happen to know you need to add some -none, then use the AMMO. Unless you are trying to confuse or bed the poor girl, leave the Turn Up The Heat at home.:o Good luck, and have fun! ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/3 "2008-01-03T02:25:24Z")
Two sprays of Ammo, One spray of Turn Up The Heat, 4 sprays IS and one spray [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) should do it. You want to turn her on and mess with her head. Not be just another wussy nice boy. ---
**Author:** ![DirtyTurtle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@DirtyTurtle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DirtyTurtle)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/4 "2008-01-03T02:28:42Z")
Dr. your mix is quite a bit more and the opposite of Nancys…Do you have more info or your reasoning behind that? Your is more along the lines of whatI was thinking, but I thought it maybe too much. ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/5 "2008-01-03T02:30:47Z")
Zorters is such a trickster. ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/6 "2008-01-03T02:35:18Z")
> [@DrZorters](#): > > You want to turn her on and mess with her head. I think Zorter is jacking with YOUR head, Turtle. And, in a way, Zorter is ignoring your stated intentions. I suppose that’s just how he would do things, regardless of what you said you wanted to do.😉 Getting her all hot and bothered will not, in my estimation, help her learn, nor help you teach her, how to snowboard.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/7 "2008-01-03T02:47:59Z")
For what you mentioned that you have available this is the mix I would wear if I was out Clubbing or Bar Hopping. It will help turn her on without going over the top and scaring her away. Is it more important that you teach her how to snowboard or that you turn her on for the fun of it. Plus if you get her hot and bothered and she does not learn to snowboard as quick you will have to give her another lesson and she will want another lesson.lol. I think you catch my drift. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![DirtyTurtle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@DirtyTurtle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DirtyTurtle)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/8 "2008-01-03T03:00:06Z")
Ya, I think I am going to have to agree with ya Dr. Sorry Nancy, I do see your point too, but I can teach her to snowboard either way, lol. I want to experiment with this stuff, so what better way. Even when teaching, there is a LOT of time where you are just talking. On the chair lift, etc. So I will run this as a test. Not just with her, but with any other girls I run in to. And to prove I’m not a wussy boy, lol. ---
**Author:** ![DirtyTurtle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e0b2c6/32.png) [@DirtyTurtle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DirtyTurtle)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/9 "2008-01-03T03:00:34Z")
Oh ya, Dr. where would you apply those sprays to? ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/10 "2008-01-03T03:09:13Z")
I am glad you see things my way. I thought I knew what you were trying to do. Nancy was right. Thats the way I would have played it. Have fun and I would be interested to read your report on the experience. PM me with it if you want to. DrZorters ---
**Author:** ![DrZorters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@DrZorters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DrZorters)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-ideas/7987/11 "2008-01-03T03:19:38Z")
I would put one spray of Ammo on my face or throat and one on the back of my neck. I would put half a spray of Turn Up The Heat behind each ear. I would put a spray of IS in my hair on each side of my head or my hat and a spray on each arm of my jacket. I would put the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) on the chest of my jacket or the top of my head or hat. You will not have much exposed skin unless it is a warmer than normal day I would assume. It is not super important where you put each product. Just keep the Ammo and TUTH out of your hair. Androstenone is difficult to wash out of your hair. It is a very sticky molecule. You want to place your pheromones where she will get good exposure. Also remember that pheromones do not diffuse as well in cold temperatures. DrZorters