# Need information **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639 "2007-01-18T02:44:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![\_side](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/8edcca/32.png) [@\_side](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/_side)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/1 "2007-01-18T02:44:51Z")
I was going to order [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) from Smartmones, but it is out of stock. For two days now (at least). That was dissapointing. So i started googling for different pheromone products, was kind of surprised that neither smartmones nor androticsdirect/research are being referred to within first 3 pages. First of: Pherlure Luvessentials PherX Any comments? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/2 "2007-01-18T03:07:29Z")
Well, I don’t know much about those products. What I do know is that Pherlure has some issues with people not getting results. luvessentials, and pherx seem to be scetchy. May I recomend calling Androtics and finding out it’s availability? Pherhaps holding off, or ording a to go bottle of something else that sparks your interest? I’d recomend instant shine for sure, if you are going for sex only maybe ammunition or turn up the heat (read up of age and androstenone + where not to wear -none based products) I don’t know what to say about the search except there are a lot of people trying to capitalize on the sex market. Androtics actualy want to sell pehro’s for more than just this purpose. Plus they have a solid site, forum, and people to back up what they are about. Honestly i’ll never buy anything from another phero store unless it’s something that I can’t get from androtics or it’s high recomended by the contributing members of this forum. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/3 "2007-01-18T03:27:20Z")
Unlike a lot of companies who seem to put all of their working capital into marketing their products, androtics seems to put more (all)of their effort into product development. As such, though Androstics lacks all the marketing jazz (outrageous unrealistic claims, fake university studies, hot models promoting their products), their products are years ahead of what most other companies are dishing out. Most companies draw reference to university studies and news reports to promote the legitimacy of the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) they use. What we’ve been able to touch on here is quite honestly _further ahead_ than the findings of these studies and media reports. Most companies primarily work with 1 pheromone (androstenone). Luvessentials seems to fair a little better than others, offering products that contain androstenol and androsterone as well (they might be worth looking into)…however we have dozens of different pheromones at our disposal here at AD. Its overwhelming to try everything offered here, but the overall feedback that they get from our trials allows them to create ‘commerical’ releases that are far more effective than a lot of the products I’ve tried elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/4 "2007-01-18T03:51:12Z")
ok you know all those other companies are crap. They need the marketing because their products suck so much. Their claims are unbelieveable like that tag body spray or axe bull shit. Anyways it’s good that androtics is a little less marketed. Think of it this way, if everyone had good pheromones then it would not be as effective. Just let those other scam companies keep their marketing up ---
**Author:** ![\_side](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/8edcca/32.png) [@\_side](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/_side)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/5 "2007-01-18T04:00:03Z")
Thanx for responces. IFM is not available in any form - spray,oil, togo… Don’t feel like I need IS. But will think about IO, because i’m trying to rebuild broken relationships. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/6 "2007-01-18T04:03:46Z")
sounds great! It will drop some barrier hopefully. Have you thought about instant gentleman? It sounds a pretty great for your purpose. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/7 "2007-01-18T04:44:27Z")
a question on instant female magic, does it incite sexual behavior even slightly? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/8 "2007-01-18T04:45:26Z")
> [@XDragonX](#): > > a question on instant female magic, does it incite sexual behavior even slightly? Given the right context, any [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) will. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/9 "2007-01-18T04:53:26Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Given the right context, any pheromone will. well yea, but does it contain anything that specifically targets more sexual themes(like tuth) or does it only relax? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/10 "2007-01-18T05:01:50Z")
[androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) is the culprit, but I don’t know the extent of its sexual tendancies ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/11 "2007-01-18T05:20:00Z")
> [@XDragonX](#): > > well yea, but does it contain anything that specifically targets more sexual themes(like Turn Up The Heat) or does it only relax? [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is primarily Androstedienone. Its a highly mood elevating pheromone for women…it will not only relax women, but they will feel more uplifted and comfortable around you. They will look more favorably upon you…and yes they’re more likely to be sexually attracted to you. Truthfully, there are situations where IFM could be more sexual than TUTH even. Its often recommended to keep TUTH OUT of dating/intimate type mixes. I don’t personally believe that any male pheromone specifically targets a sexual theme…or rather I don’t think we should be so definitavely identifying certain pheromnes and products as ‘sexual’ and ‘non-sexual’ products. Female copulins seem to have the role of _directly_ arousing males (in animal societies they serve the role of arousing males in times of ovulation), but there is nothing indicating that any male pheromone has this _direct_ type of effect. Androstenone (principle ingredient in TUTH) seems to project a highly physically masculine type of vibe…many women find this sexually enticing, but it doesn’t necessarily flip on a sexual switch. As we’ve seen in a lot of the feedback here, androstenone can actually put off and close women off…making it highly un-sexual, in a lot of contexts. I would argue that whether or not a pheromone signal is recieved and translated into a sexual response depends highly on the situation…its a matter of you putting out the right kind of vibe, at the right time. There are times when a woman will be sexually drawn to the fact that she feels comfortable around you, and times when a strong physical prowess is what she craves. I think we can say some products are more masculine, some more comforting, some more social etc etc…whether or not these types of characteristics are translated into a sexual response, really depends on a number of different factors. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-information/1639/12 "2007-01-18T05:38:32Z")
wow thanks for all that, it was really helpful and exactly the info i needed