# Need opinions,suggestion,feedback or ideas on my new order **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 17, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313 "2008-04-17T00:01:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/1 "2008-04-17T00:01:16Z")
Hi there, as the title shown above, yes i need any opinion,suggestion,feedback or ideas on my new order. I have just ordered A314,Turn Up The Heat full sized bottle & [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)\>Double strength(Togo bottle) that will arrive soon. I welcome any opinion, suggestion,feedback or ideas. Thanks 🙂 With Regards, PhatSounds ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/2 "2008-04-17T01:46:45Z")
I suggest that you try instant openness first, one or two sprays around any types of people. Looks for reactions 😉 A lot more chatting of course Then use 1 drop of a314 for a few days. Again looks for anything different, mostly for more respect, people doing you favors… You can use turn up the heat last after you know how the others work for you. No need of more than 1 spray usually ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/3 "2008-04-17T03:07:55Z")
Test the products individually, one at a time and varying the number of sprays until you find your sweet spot for each product. Start out on day one with one spray, the next day go to 2 sprays, then 3, until you find the best level for you. Then do the same with the next product, and so on. Once you have figured out your sweet spot for each prodcut and what kind of reactions you can expect, then you can start mixing and matching the products for specific situations and environments. A word of caution though, TUTH is heavy on Androstenone for someone your age, and you should avoid wearing it in a work or school environment. It is more of a product for nightclub use, after there is already an initial attraction established or once you are dating, and to help ratchet things up a notch. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/4 "2008-04-17T03:45:21Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > I suggest that you try instant openness first, one or two sprays around any types of people. Looks for reactions 😉 A lot more chatting of course > > Then use 1 drop of A314 for a few days. Again looks for anything different, mostly for more respect, people doing you favors… > > You can use turn up the heat last after you know how the others work for you. No need of more than 1 spray usually Hello mockingbird, thanks on your reply 😃 So use one by one not all at one go right? Ok how about a nightclub? I’m a regular at one of the best nightclub here but never get attention or laid or even touched by girls (hardly dreamt that)😠 . To tell you honestly this club is one of the hardest to get normal looking girls let alone the geogeous ones ☹ I have tried a lot of other [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) brands on that club but no result zero 😠 Now it is Androtics turn 😃 ,what should i wear on that club by your point of view? ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/5 "2008-04-17T03:55:26Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Test the products individually, one at a time and varying the number of sprays until you find your sweet spot for each product. Start out on day one with one spray, the next day go to 2 sprays, then 3, until you find the best level for you. Then do the same with the next product, and so on. > > Once you have figured out your sweet spot for each prodcut and what kind of reactions you can expect, then you can start mixing and matching the products for specific situations and environments. > > A word of caution though, Turn Up The Heat is heavy on Androstenone for someone your age, and you should avoid wearing it in a work or school environment. It is more of a product for nightclub use, after there is already an initial attraction established or once you are dating, and to help ratchet things up a notch. Hi mark-in-dallas, thanks for your reply 😃 So test one at a time & find my sweet spot, interesting 😃 I shall do that 🙂 One problem though, as u are saying about Turn Up The Heat & how it is suitable for nightclub use, i be honest with u, i’m a regular at one of the best nightclub here. They have the most geogeous babes there but it is even hard to get a normal girl there let alone the geogeous ones. I have never get attention, never being touched or even laid by a girl at there before 😠 As i was telling Mockingbird too that i have tried a lot of other pheromone brands but zero results 😠 Now it’s Androtics turn 😃, what should i wear on that club by your point of view? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/6 "2008-04-17T04:25:35Z")
Turn Up The Heat is fine for a nightclub. That and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), with a hint of A314 would actually be great for a nightclub. But, I’m going to give you even better advice: Find an attractive girl that goes there and become her FRIEND. When other girls see you with a pretty girl it will be MUCH easier to get to know them and to get them to like you. At the club I go to regularly I have a number of girls that are just friends and will come over and sit with me for awhile, hug me when they first see me and when they are leaving, and believe me, it makes it soooo much easier to meet other girls that I’m interested in something other than friendship with. I have 2 lines that I use regularly. One of my friends used to swear that both were to corny and would never work, but they almost always do. Here they are: Say both of these in passing to the girls that you want to get to know. Let me repeat…in passing… Either as you are walking past them, or as they are passing by you. When I see a girl I want to get to know, and for my first line I have 2 variations, the first is to pass by and just say SMILE, then keep going. The second line is to tell them that I bet if they tried really hard they could smile, most will, I then tell them they are to pretty not to be having fun and they should try to keep the smile. Then I walk away. The second line is to stop them and ask if they can take a compliment well. Most will say yes, at which point I tell them they are gorgeous. I usually get a thank you, and just say you have nothing to thank me for, and I tell them to have a great time, then walk away. This really throws the girls off, because they usually think: OK another jerk trying to hit on me. But, when you just walk away it really throws them out of whack. You can then walk back up to them 10 or 15 minutes later and they are usually (not always, but usually) very receptive to talking to you. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/7 "2008-04-17T04:36:41Z")
Mark wrote some great advice 🙂 After testing them individually for a few days, you can start using them together, but try to keep the sweet spot dose the same as individual testing. Maybe try some new clubs that you never been to with the new products 🙄 Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/8 "2008-04-17T04:42:56Z")
Why thank you mockingbird. Although I think on the phero front our advice was pretty much the same. But as we all know, and PhatSounds this is mainly for your ears: pheros are only enhancements and it’s still 90% us. Having a pretty girl or two around, is almost like an endorsement. Since you have already passed muster with her, other girls will figure that you must be ok. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/9 "2008-04-17T06:36:16Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Turn Up The Heat is fine for a nightclub. That and Instant Openness, with a hint of A314 would actually be great for a nightclub. > > But, I’m going to give you even better advice: Find an attractive girl that goes there and become her FRIEND. When other girls see you with a pretty girl it will be MUCH easier to get to know them and to get them to like you. > > At the club I go to regularly I have a number of girls that are just friends and will come over and sit with me for awhile, hug me when they first see me and when they are leaving, and believe me, it makes it soooo much easier to meet other girls that I’m interested in something other than friendship with. > > I have 2 lines that I use regularly. One of my friends used to swear that both were to corny and would never work, but they almost always do. Here they are: > > Say both of these in passing to the girls that you want to get to know. Let me repeat…in passing… Either as you are walking past them, or as they are passing by you. > > When I see a girl I want to get to know, and for my first line I have 2 variations, the first is to pass by and just say SMILE, then keep going. The second line is to tell them that I bet if they tried really hard they could smile, most will, I then tell them they are to pretty not to be having fun and they should try to keep the smile. Then I walk away. > > The second line is to stop them and ask if they can take a compliment well. Most will say yes, at which point I tell them they are gorgeous. I usually get a thank you, and just say you have nothing to thank me for, and I tell them to have a great time, then walk away. > > This really throws the girls off, because they usually think: OK another jerk trying to hit on me. But, when you just walk away it really throws them out of whack. > > You can then walk back up to them 10 or 15 minutes later and they are usually (not always, but usually) very receptive to talking to you. Hello mark-in-dallas, my thanks on your point of view 🙂 & valuable advice 😃 , I appreciate this very much & will try the methods that you note down but let me tell you it is not easy seriously speaking not easy at all. Most of the Asian girl here are more quiet & reserved ☹ And most of them are eyeing for those who are rich & influential 😠 Ok, u did say that use Turn Up The Heat with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) with a hint of A314. How many sprays for TUTH & Togo Instant Openness (Double Strength) & how many drops from A314? ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/10 "2008-04-17T06:43:46Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > Mark wrote some great advice 🙂 > > After testing them individually for a few days, you can start using them together, but try to keep the sweet spot dose the same as individual testing. > > Maybe try some new clubs that you never been to with the new products 🙄 > > Good luck! Hello Mockingbird, thanks on your point of view 😃 but u say use them together well, how many sprays are recommended for Turn Up The Heat & Togo [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)(Double strength)? And how many drops of A314 are required? And which part of the body should i apply? Wrists, neck, behind ears, chest, groin? And for other clubs, it is the same situation like that club. To be honest that is why guys in my country can be single for so long. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/11 "2008-04-17T06:48:28Z")
I like 2 to 3 sprays of regular instant openness in my hair, which is 1 or 2 togo double strengh openness. Use 1 spray of turn up the heat is usually enough. 1 or 2 drops of a314 on your wrist and behind your ear works best 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/12 "2008-04-17T06:53:54Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Why thank you mockingbird. Although I think on the phero front our advice was pretty much the same. > > But as we all know, and PhatSounds this is mainly for your ears: pheros are only enhancements and it’s still 90% us. > > Having a pretty girl or two around, is almost like an endorsement. Since you have already passed muster with her, other girls will figure that you must be ok. Hi mark-in-dallas, yes i noticed that you & mockingbird advice are nearly the same but thanks both of you at least both of you try to help me out & i appreciate that 😃 Yes i have to agreed with you that pheros are only enhancements & 90% is up to us but i seriously am not good on myself in making conversations. I’m a very shy dude & i also badly lack of confidence & i’m just a average looking guy. To me pheros is my last resort. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/13 "2008-04-17T07:02:20Z")
The [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will also help make it easier for you to open conversations. As for being average looking and lacking in confidence…DUDE LOOK AT ME, I am far from a stud, I’m 45 years old and half bald, but I meet and date really attractive women, usually in their 20’s. It aint about looks!!! It’s all about confidence, attitude and approach. Work on those and you’ll be fine! ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/14 "2008-04-17T07:03:50Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > I like 2 to 3 sprays of regular instant openness in my hair, which is 1 or 2 togo double strengh openness. > > Use 1 spray of turn up the heat is usually enough. > > 1 or 2 drops of A314 on your wrist and behind your ear works best 🙂 Good recommendations on Togo [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/),Turn Up The Heat & A314 MockingBird 😃 For TUTH which part of the body i need to spray? Is it chest? And unique spraying pheromones to hair, ok if you are wearing hair gel or hair spray how is it then? ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 7:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/15 "2008-04-17T07:12:12Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > The Instant Openness will also help make it easier for you to open conversations. > > As for being average looking and lacking in confidence…DUDE LOOK AT ME, I am far from a stud, I’m 45 years old and half bald, but I meet and date really attractive women, usually in their 20’s. > > It aint about looks!!! It’s all about confidence, attitude and approach. Work on those and you’ll be fine! Well, let’s just see how my Togo [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) works when i received it. And yes, i know what you mean mark-in-dallas & i can see that you date some of prettiest girls i ever seen. Man, i envy you. About working on confidence,attitude & approach i have tried a lot of stuff to improve but it is still like that. Girls just ignored me. Anyway thanks for the advice & i will let you & Mockingbird know the results later 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/16 "2008-04-17T17:48:57Z")
To Mockingbird, i just want to say that you got a nice Sylvester graphic there. Where is the friend Tweety Bird? Just want to comment on that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/17 "2008-04-18T01:21:28Z")
Well so far,i checked only Mockingbird & mark-in-dallas response, my thanks on those two & expect reputation points to be given to them soon 😃 Other than the two of them i welcome anyone else to give their opinion,suggestion,feedback or ideas. Come on people. I’m open to anything that is informative to me. Will check this thread from time to time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/18 "2008-04-20T21:00:19Z")
Ok so far i still only see Mockingbird & mark-in-dallas replys. I am welcoming any opinion,suggestion, feedback or ideas anything basically. Thanks 🙂 P.S. I will check this thread from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/19 "2008-04-20T21:32:21Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Well so far,i checked only Mockingbird & mark-in-dallas response, my thanks on those two & expect reputation points to be given to them soon 😃 Other than the two of them i welcome anyone else to give their opinion,suggestion,feedback or ideas. Come on people. I’m open to anything that is informative to me. Will check this thread from time to time 🙂 hah, its hard to give advice or tips when Mocking and Mark already gave you the best tips. Seeing as your targets are Asian, try Instant Honesty x4. Mad Tater finds that seems to help with Asian females. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) also seems to work well. Again, like the both of them said, it’s going to be 90% you and 10% pheros. ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313/20 "2008-04-20T21:38:54Z")
Judging from my experience, the best way for an asian to get another asian is. . . to be friendly. Before pheros, I was the target of most asian girls. After pheros, the response is still the same. I just don’t interact with them much cause something about them just makes me feel a little sick (no offense to asian ladies). So dress nice, look sharp, and put on some ISHine and you’re good to go. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-opinions-suggestion-feedback-or-ideas-on-my-new-order/11313.md?page=2)