# Need some help  here

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 17, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744 "2008-05-17T20:31:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![metoo22009](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@metoo22009](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metoo22009)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744/1 "2008-05-17T20:31:40Z")

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Okay- First Very impressed second need some help on the next order

I want to maximize the shine effect (wheres off so fast) so should i go with 1. TAA oil or IS x2?

also I am looking at AMMO or IG coupled with either Tac or IH or IO

Basically looking for the ability to have 2 solid mixes 1 for business and one for pleasure possibly a third for casual wear. I am a strong very outgoing alpha, so i am not sure if I need IO or IH, but I worry about oding on ammo so I figure IG might be the better route. I really just am trying to avoid buying blends with the same stuff- SO I am interested to hear your thoughts?

so in summary TAA or IS X2 with either AMMA or IG and Either IH IO or TAC

THANKS!

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744/2 "2008-05-17T22:31:13Z")

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Ishine has better diffusion rate than taa, so you have a lot of effect at first, but need to apply within a shorter period of time (2 or 3 hours max), while taa oil can last all day.

Ishine 2x has about 50% more taa [pheromone](https://a314.com/) than the normal oil version, and with a fast diffusion, it can let you see more effects.

I mostly use IO to make others who are shy want to talk more. So even if you are very outgoing io can still help a lot.

You should be fine with ammo if you only apply one or two spray, since it is balance with nol and rone.

Are u also considering a314? It is very cost effective, can last up to a year if you only put 1 drop per day (since u are already a strong alpha and only need a little more boost) 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744/3 "2008-05-18T05:13:20Z")

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> [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x has about 50% more [taa](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) pheromone than the **normal oil version** , and with a fast diffusion, it can let you see more effects.

😕 😕 MB did you mean the normal spray version ? If so yes it 50% more. I love this one at the higher MCG per spray its so well worth getting higher.

But for the oil…

TAA Oil is just TAA oil around 10800 mcg of Molecule TAA per bottle 10mcg per drop.

Ishine X2 is 6000 mcg of mones per bottle but there are 3 different mones in there.

Both are great products.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Denied](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denied/32/1018_2.png) [@Denied](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Denied)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-here/12744/4 "2008-05-18T06:41:00Z")

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instant shine is fine and fun. i got the 2x after my first normal version and i had to smile like im stoned for 20 min.  
But that was only after appling it after a pause and only the first time.

I think it only lasts 2-3 hours but i still like it. Its perfect when coming to a new location. Everyone will notice you. The first impression you will make will be better then without, i think.

I would love to get TAA oil. Its on my wish list
