# Need some help with choosing a Strength **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 21, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435 "2011-11-21T01:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/1 "2011-11-21T01:58:26Z")
Hello All! I recently purchased [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Tuth and now I want to get into some of the social buffers I’ve been reading like IO and IS **My question is:** Should I get the double strength (2x) or is single strength good enough? I found myself limiting to 1 spray of Ammo & Tuth so I don’t over do it. I’m curious as to what the members here prefer as far as strength. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/2 "2011-11-21T02:03:37Z")
Its not what we prefer, rather it is what works for you. Best way is to do your sweet spot testing with 1x, then if the sprays work out, move-up to 2x as an economy/scent control measure. Saying that, 36 is getting into the age where 2x may be more useful as our none output falls with age. Still best to test first. With socials, OD is less of an issue and getting 2x when you can is a sensible economy measure. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/3 "2011-11-21T02:28:32Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Its not what we prefer, rather it is what works for you. > > Best way is to do your sweet spot testing with 1x, then if the sprays work out, move-up to 2x as an economy/scent control measure. > > Saying that, 36 is getting into the age where 2x may be more useful as our none output falls with age. Still best to test first. > > With socials, OD is less of an issue and getting 2x when you can is a sensible economy measure. Nice man - thanks for the tip! I think I’ll go with 2x and call it a day. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/4 "2011-11-21T03:51:03Z")
In my experience you can always step up sprays rather than step down the dosage itself. But if you feel confident you’ll need a 2X -none product the it’ll surely be more economical in the end. However even when I need two sprays of -none I like to spray them out. Its obviously up to you, ‘dude’! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/5 "2011-11-21T10:18:27Z")
I had regular Ammo first, the second time I opted for x2 in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent and now I went back to the regular strength in ff21. I think I can handle x2 but my mistake was rather to choose akuto and in 6% at that. It doesn’t cover the mones properly and it seems to me that ff21 is better liked by the ladies. Maybe it just diffuses differently? ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/6 "2011-11-21T18:43:43Z")
Personally I ordered double strength IS and single strength of everything else. This was because after researching IS I was near-certain that double strength would be fine for me, and even better, as the IS effect is something I’m happy having in a high amount. A single 2x spray isnt even a super-dose of it anyway (its just two normal sprays) so double-strength IS was fine for me. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/7 "2011-11-22T04:38:25Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > Personally I ordered double strength IS and single strength of everything else. This was because after researching IS I was near-certain that double strength would be fine for me, and even better, as the IS effect is something I’m happy having in a high amount. A single 2x spray isnt even a super-dose of it anyway (its just two normal sprays) so double-strength IS was fine for me. Thanks bro - I personally dont like spraying too much cologne. I had to cut back the Ammo down to 1 spray just so I could stand it. ---
**Author:** ![rejected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85e7bf/32.png) [@rejected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rejected)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/8 "2011-11-22T05:30:05Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > Personally I ordered double strength IS and single strength of everything else. This was because after researching IS I was near-certain that double strength would be fine for me, and even better, as the IS effect is something I’m happy having in a high amount. A single 2x spray isnt even a super-dose of it anyway (its just two normal sprays) so double-strength IS was fine for me. Same for me. I didn’t notice much from the 1x IS, 2x is the way to go. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/9 "2011-11-22T10:11:31Z")
> [@andromun](#): > > Thanks bro - I personally dont like spraying too much cologne. I had to cut back the Ammo down to 1 spray just so I could stand it. Hey mate Maybe someone could confirm this, but looking around on the shopping site I think the Ammo ships with a stronger scent than most of the other products I _THINK_ Ammo is 10% and considered “cologne strength” (but still not as strong as most store colognes - so you can use more of it to get the mones) whereas others are usually 6% fragranced and considered lighter strength ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/need-some-help-with-choosing-a-strength/53435/10 "2011-11-22T10:19:59Z")
> [@GetTheEdge](#): > > Hey mate > > Maybe someone could confirm this, but looking around on the shopping site I think the Ammo ships with a stronger scent than most of the other products > > I _THINK_ Ammo is 10% and considered “cologne strength” (but still not as strong as most store colognes - so you can use more of it to get the mones) whereas others are usually 6% fragranced and considered lighter strength It does - the 10% is described as “light” cologne strength. Full cologne strength is around 20%. The Instants are in 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) (orange blossom) but the individual phero mixes give each instant its own slight scent variation and A314 spray is in a similar strength Akuto. Oil is also in Akuto with plant musks but that dries very light indeed. You can use a good number of sprays at 6% without it becoming overpowering, so long as you leave it 30 mins or so after spraying for the initial scent to settle down. If you don’t get on with Ammo’s F21 scent, you can get it in something else via the custom order page but quite a few folk have commented that a 6% customisation won’t cut it as cover.