# Neg reactions when using Mones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 21, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689 "2013-12-21T19:08:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Candygurl7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@Candygurl7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Candygurl7)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/1 "2013-12-21T19:08:24Z")
I went MIA with the use of mones for a while but recently got back into using them. In the past I’ve used I/S-A and I/H and P74 with great results but I started to use I/S-B and I/S and woooh - not good. I am curious if anyone else has had the same effects. When I wear [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (mostly at work) my TG and a few other coworkers become super cranky and snappy at me. I’ve tried from one spray up to four sprays - all the same results. With I/Sexiness-B I become a crying mess. Anything will set me off. It’s like the worst case of Emo-PMS imaginable. I should have gone with my gut and re-ordered the I/S-A but I wanted to try something new. Now I am too scared to use either one of them in fear of what will happen lol. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@Ekscentra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/2 "2013-12-30T18:10:25Z")
The two give off completely different vibes, responding well to one doesn’t necessarily guarantee responding well to the other. I’d suggest staying far away from IS/B with the self-effects you’ve been getting. I’m curious which molecule might’ve caused such a reaction? Interesting… As for [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), I couldn’t possibly imagine what went wrong there. That sounds like the very antithesis of what Instant Shine is meant to do. I’d suggest trying TAA as a single, you may get better results that way. I doubt it’s the androsterone sulfate (TAA) contained in Instant Shine, though. I wonder if you’d have a similar reaction to the Men’s version of the product? I’ve heard of no reactions from Instant Shine, but never the type of negative reactions you’ve described here. The steering molecules are almost certainly to blame here, that much I’m sure of. ---
**Author:** ![Candygurl7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@Candygurl7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Candygurl7)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/3 "2013-12-31T07:32:22Z")
Thanks! I am going to try the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) tomorrow (today was just not a good day so hopefully if it works it will be a double “blessing” lol) Yeah I’m gonna try to trade/swap/return/something with the I/S-B 'cuz it’s not good for anyone lol!! ---
**Author:** ![jett](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jett/32/438_2.png) [@jett](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jett)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/4 "2014-01-04T13:36:28Z")
fortunately it’s really easy to return stuff here. i had a really bad reaction with ih 4X once. i had an interview with a hotshot agency, where I had to display my portfolio and basically oversell my abilities. they are a little out of my league. so i had IH4X in my car and i super impulsively sprayed a shot to my wrists before going in. and this was where the catastrophe began. so the interview is at 11:00. and i sprayed on at 10:50 when i pulled up in the parking lot. I’m getting my things together, and looking over my portfolio i get supercritical with myself. then i start trash talking myself. “you can’t show that. you can’t do that. you are so fucking unprof.” so i’m left quivering in the driver seat and the only thing that stopped me from hyperventilating was my phone ringing. i answer it, its my bff (probably calling to wish me luck) and i burst out crying telling her how much i suck. she tells me to drive away and she’ll call the interviewer and cover for me. toooooo much honesty for ME. took me like two years to ever try honesty again. i can see ISB causing some emo feelings. i think it’s the TAH. when I’m already pre menstural, tah formulas can get me and my roommates (both female, 20s) a little sensitive. it really depends on what part of your cycle you’re on. its fucking gold for me when the timing is right. i hope when more ladies get really honest about mones and report to places like androtics they can make formulas that are more synergistic… i LOOVVEE mones when they work right, it’s like a fantasy come true !! ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@Ekscentra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/5 "2014-01-05T09:48:56Z")
Beta -nol can bring out some deep negative self-talk. I’d always combine it with a mood boosting mone for this reason. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) kills all negative self-talk, though I’m unsure how a woman might respond to it. I see you have some P75. Any experiences with this one? ---
**Author:** ![Candygurl7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/0ea827/32.png) [@Candygurl7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Candygurl7)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/6 "2014-01-06T21:48:59Z")
> [@Ekscentra](#): > > Beta -nol can bring out some deep negative self-talk. I’d always combine it with a mood boosting mone for this reason. P75 kills all negative self-talk, though I’m unsure how a woman might respond to it. I see you have some P75. Any experiences with this one? If I remember correctly I think I read Tisha23 say that [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) does not work well for women? I could totally be missing remembering and so I apologize In advance just in case lol. ---
**Author:** ![Ekscentra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@Ekscentra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ekscentra)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/neg-reactions-when-using-mones/60689/7 "2014-01-06T22:36:26Z")
As much as I appreciate her reports, tisha doesn’t seem to respond well to a lot of mones. In my opinion, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is easily the most masculine molecule out there. It would be incredibly difficult to steer in a more feminine direction, and because of this, I wouldn’t consider it as a suitable standalone for women. A low dose, if properly steered, may have some value here. So yes, I’d agree with you, it’s pointless to use as a standalone for women, but it can still work with the proper combination and ratio of molecules. EST, A1, TAH, TAL, and TAK are some obvious choices to offset this masculinity.