# New A314 oil user: how to apply, what IOIs to expect, combining with Ammo and IS

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**Created:** [February 12, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799 "2011-02-12T01:08:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![phaseshift](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@phaseshift](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaseshift)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/1 "2011-02-12T01:08:31Z")

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you guys must be tired of all these a314 questions! I’m SORRY!! I just got this bad boy in oil form and I don’t have access to the a314 forum yet so without further a DOEWWWWW! My questions.

- Should I apply it like it says on the smartmones website, one drop on my finger or is there a better way of applying it?

- A314 sweet spot testing, what should I look out for in terms of IOIs, same as ammo?

- Going to use it the first day of spring semester, college girls yummmy. AMMO and IS will be added to a314. What would be best spray combo? [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) sweet spot is 3 as well as IS 3.

coolkat mentioned, 1 drop of a314, 2 sprays of ammo and 2 sprays of IS anyone object?

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/2 "2011-02-12T01:15:35Z")

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Well, the thing about A314, in my experience, it’s not exactly an instant hit, more of a slow build up, so it takes time. Application is best by letting a drop onto your finger as to not contaminate the rest of the solution. App points can be any pulse point such as wrists, sides of the neck, jaw line, etc. It’s an oil so it has a slower diffusion and heat does cause it to diffuse quicker.

As for potential hits, send Steve a PM and he’ll get you the access to the a314 forum which has tons of information on this topic. In fact, Steve has compiled a list of “hits” and each person’s experiences with such situations. I would most definitely give that thread a look once you’re in. 🙂

As for what coolkat suggested, it’s really a combo you’ll have to try yourself. What works for him may not work for me and for you. I’m sure others will chime in, this just my views on the stuff. 🙂

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/3 "2011-02-12T02:49:33Z")

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> [@phaseshift](#):
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> you guys must be tired of all these a314 questions! I’m SORRY!! I just got this bad boy in oil form and I don’t have access to the a314 forum yet so without further a DOEWWWWW! My questions.
> 
> - Should I apply it like it says on the smartmones website, one drop on my finger or is there a better way of applying it?
> 
> - A314 sweet spot testing, what should I look out for in terms of IOIs, same as ammo?
> 
> - Going to use it the first day of spring semester, college girls yummmy. AMMO and IS will be added to a314. What would be best spray combo? Ammo sweet spot is 3 as well as IS 3.
> 
> coolkat mentioned, 1 drop of a314, 2 sprays of ammo and 2 sprays of IS anyone object?

I drop it on the top of my hand then apply to my neck/back of ears. But that’s just personal preference. As for IOI’s like what gt said, it’s more over time you’ll notice it. This is more a long term [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), you’ll notice it over time, but the results are very much well worth it. I love this stuff, almost a daily wear for me and a base for anything I wear.

Look, mixes are great, which most newbies use them, just throw everything in and see how it works. Then what I’ve noticed from experience it just gets simpler and simpler as time goes by, that most of these products are sufficient by themselves. I don’t believe however you can learn and expand your user knowledge just by doing what everyone says, so I say go for it and test it out, whatever your wants are do it.

I’ve used the A314 + AMMO + IS mix for a long time now, and I call it my old reliable. Sometimes its just A314 + something or by itself.

See what works for YOU and what your personality is. It’s great you’ll learn from the forum posts here and you’ll get ideas on what to try and when and where. But don’t take what everyone says here as the absolute and end all be all, go for what works for you and share it.

Good luck

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**Author:** ![phaseshift](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@phaseshift](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaseshift)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/4 "2011-02-12T03:21:50Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
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> I drop it on the top of my hand then apply to my neck/back of ears. But that’s just personal preference. As for IOI’s like what gt said, it’s more over time you’ll notice it. This is more a long term pheromone, you’ll notice it over time, but the results are very much well worth it. I love this stuff, almost a daily wear for me and a base for anything I wear.
> 
> Look, mixes are great, which most newbies use them, just throw everything in and see how it works. Then what I’ve noticed from experience it just gets simpler and simpler as time goes by, that most of these products are sufficient by themselves. I don’t believe however you can learn and expand your user knowledge just by doing what everyone says, so I say go for it and test it out, whatever your wants are do it.
> 
> I’ve used the A314 + AMMO + IS mix for a long time now, and I call it my old reliable. Sometimes its just A314 + something or by itself.
> 
> See what works for YOU and what your personality is. It’s great you’ll learn from the forum posts here and you’ll get ideas on what to try and when and where. But don’t take what everyone says here as the absolute and end all be all, go for what works for you and share it.
> 
> Good luck

thanks for the insight p51! I enjoy reading your very looooooong journal! I especially like the “I just shaved” comment from your bday post.

I have also read that a314 gives of the sexy vibe, to quote tisha “I can fuck you if I so choose to but I dont have to”.

I think my plan of attack for the first couple of days of spring semester is just going to be 1 drop of a314 and then 2 drops. I’ll use that as a basis for the first week as girls will start to look at me and ask themselves the “who is this guy” question. Then, I’ll add ammo next week and IS the week after that.

From the threads i’ve read so far about a314, its defnitely the alpha male vibe with sexyness. For the first couple of days, I want the girls to feel like they can’t come up to me cause they aren’t in the same league, then when I start to use ammo i’ll start conversing with the ladies to let them know that’s its okay to talk to me add IS in that and every time I walk in the classroom, I’ll be shining! 😃

Its funny because I always have a smile on my face and my mannerisms are beyond most guys my age.

I used a drop of a314 today while running a couple errands with my best bud. He’s always bitching about everything (sometimes I wonder why he’s my best friend) it amazes me how someone can complain every single day. I guess he wanted to challenge me today, so I just told him “if you’re going to keep bitching about every little thing, I’m gonna treat you like a little kid and ignore you.” Surprisingly he stopped bitching and became more upbeat, but I was put off by his bitchiness so I still ignored him haha.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/5 "2011-02-12T17:07:01Z")

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A314 is legit respect in a bottle. While it is a bit costly I have never used it personally but I have never read a negative review on it. Next pay check I am ordering my self a bottle and a bottle of Ammo.

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**Author:** ![phaseshift](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@phaseshift](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaseshift)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/6 "2011-02-14T05:37:46Z")

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> [@P51Mustang](#):
>
> I drop it on the top of my hand then apply to my neck/back of ears. But that’s just personal preference. As for IOI’s like what gt said, it’s more over time you’ll notice it. This is more a long term pheromone, you’ll notice it over time, but the results are very much well worth it. I love this stuff, almost a daily wear for me and a base for anything I wear.
> 
> Look, mixes are great, which most newbies use them, just throw everything in and see how it works. Then what I’ve noticed from experience it just gets simpler and simpler as time goes by, that most of these products are sufficient by themselves. I don’t believe however you can learn and expand your user knowledge just by doing what everyone says, so I say go for it and test it out, whatever your wants are do it.
> 
> I’ve used the A314 + AMMO + IS mix for a long time now, and I call it my old reliable. Sometimes its just A314 + something or by itself.
> 
> See what works for YOU and what your personality is. It’s great you’ll learn from the forum posts here and you’ll get ideas on what to try and when and where. But don’t take what everyone says here as the absolute and end all be all, go for what works for you and share it.
> 
> Good luck

also p51 you mentioned the oil version shows its effects over time, about how long would you say until the effects start to kick in?

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/7 "2011-02-15T14:39:19Z")

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On average you begin to notice effects at around 2 weeks. Honestly the effects happen sooner then that, however sometimes they are subtle and you just can’t see them. I noticed hits from day one with coworkers. One literally was walking up to me and about say some smart comment then she stop cold at about 3 feet away and her jaw dropped and she looked completely lost for a moment.

I call A314 lube for life. I can’t remember who I stole that from. It’s more about the increased ability for things to go your way then it is about actual IOI’s. Dont’ get me wrong you will notice IOI’s also. Make sure that you are paying attention to the hits from men as well. That will give you some clues into how well the product is working for sweet spot testing better than women. Some days you just can’t tell with women with a product like a314. They may go nuts for you but hide it all because of the strong Alpha signal.

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**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/8 "2011-02-15T20:59:54Z")

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> [@phaseshift](#):
>
> - Going to use it the first day of spring semester, college girls yummmy. AMMO and IS will be added to a314. What would be best spray combo? Ammo sweet spot is 3 as well as IS 3.
> 
> coolkat mentioned, 1 drop of a314, 2 sprays of ammo and 2 sprays of IS anyone object?

I would 1st try it with 3 ammo and 3 shine since you figured that as your sweet spots… the thing is that A314 has what ammo has in it too. I would say though with the different diffusion rates of oil and alcohol you would be ok with 1:3:3. Maybe find your A314 sweet spot!!!

It really is all up to you about “HOW MUCH” you use, but these 3 products together is a good choice IMO

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**Author:** ![phaseshift](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@phaseshift](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaseshift)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-a314-oil-user-how-to-apply-what-iois-to-expect-combining-with-ammo-and-is/48799/9 "2011-02-15T22:56:33Z")

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> [@GorMas2020](#):
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> I would 1st try it with 3 ammo and 3 shine since you figured that as your sweet spots… the thing is that A314 has what ammo has in it too. I would say though with the different diffusion rates of oil and alcohol you would be ok with 1:3:3. Maybe find your A314 sweet spot!!!
> 
> It really is all up to you about “HOW MUCH” you use, but these 3 products together is a good choice IMO

I tried 2 drops of A314 and 2 IS today (I put IS in there as a buffer so I wont be too alpha). The self effects are nice, but other than that no IOIs except for the guy who sits one desk in front of me, the two girls I caught staring at me…tomorrow I’m going with 2 drops of A314 again as yesterday I did 1 and I’ll be having the same classes so I want to see what 2 drops does.
