# New Ammo Akuto has arrived for me **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 7, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214 "2011-05-07T17:02:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/1 "2011-05-07T17:02:39Z")
Ok I thought I’d give ammo another try this time with Akuto. I got the 2 x strength since I’m 41. Tested it out by itself and with shine. By itself it is a nightmare. I get tense, angry and also very antosocial and grumpy. On the other hand I also get really horny and look around a lot. I Tend NOT to want to talk and get irritated if I’m talked to while I’m paying attention to sensory input around me. With instant shine added its a whole new [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/). I become friendly, polite, and relaxed. Also upbeat and in a good mood. Still although woman show an interest and talk back I get nothing really sexual. I like it for functions where I just near a polite attractive man vibe but not necessarily to score. I like the smell of akuto and find it makes me relax. Also it doesn’t tune me out like the strong scent of ff21. All in all it is what it is. Good for those who maybe want to date and ask women out or those who attend church, bingo, afternoon tea parties etc. It creates no extra sense of rhythm in me like edge does. With edge I am more in tune to rhythm be it driving with rhythm with less talk, having lusty sex with rhytmic motions instead of lovemaking, and also playing my guitar with more rhythm and really being into it. Edge also works for dancing with rhythm. I am not sure if it is the secret ingredients or the none, I’m tending to think its the secret ingredients. There is nothing sexual about this mix. It’s just pure politeness with mild attraction. I think I’ll use it for those occasions. A walk in the park with my SO, attending an afternoon tea party with finger foods, charity occasions, hanging out with friends. I see now why they say it is the blonde man’s dreams. Blondes generally are quite social and polite at least the ones without the huge T&A. They tend to say hi to many people and offer a warm smile. I am starting to think I had OD’ed on ammo before because of the cologne not the ammo. Maybe I have the same problem with edge. With edge I OD like crazy unless I put a dab only to back of neck with no cologne. But then the results don’t kick in unless my SO is in hugging range, she gets sexual but says I stink. Edge NPA need heavy colognes to cover and this bothers my allergies and gets me stoned of the alcohol. (Medications probably interact here too making me more stoned). Edge also makes me tired to some extent. NPA makes me angry, attracts to much competition from other men and makes people hostile. I look angry with high edge or npa and get tense in jaw. Furthermore even with a sephora atomizer I OD on it. The only benefit is it has better projection and is stronger. I also feel no enhancement in rhythm from it like with edge to back of neck. It doesn’t effect me as much. I’d like that extra rhythm for my guitar playing. SO far I’m liking AMMO IS for what it does, and also Chikara 1 spray /Edge (1 dab) for what it does. The latter does leave me more tense in the face which is what I hate. Any idea how I could make chikara edge make me more relaxed? Old people like my father always complain my face looks tense when I wear it and he thinks I’m ODing on Caffeine 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BiffyFighters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/34f0e0/32.png) [@BiffyFighters](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BiffyFighters)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/2 "2011-05-07T18:02:02Z")
You’re probably already aware but NPA and The Edge are both None based which is probably why you’re experiencing the tenseness. Try using lower doses or keep them for the bedroom/on the prowl. They’re great products but just as with TUTH, they need buffering quite heavily if you’re out being social. Less is more with none 🙂 [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on the other hand is equally balanced with Nol/None/Rone, much more socially adapt and can be quite flexible. As for buffering NPA/TE or Chikara/TE try SOE/IO/IS. Not all at once but just find what works with you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/3 "2011-05-07T18:20:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Still although woman show an interest and talk back I get nothing really sexual. > > I like it for functions where I just near a polite attractive man vibe but not necessarily to score. I’m glad you decided to give it another attempt 🙂. As you might be aware I am not a big fan of colognes myself and yet I dearly love Ammo. With the opportunity to be able to get it in other fragrances at lighter levels opens it up for many others. If you are looking for sexual hits you are using the wrong product. TUTH is designed for sexuality. Ammo is an everyday “Sexy Man” cologne that is used to spark interest and attraction. Your report reads as if that is what happened and you capitalized on it. Keep pushing 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/4 "2011-05-07T22:08:24Z")
Actually Steve I had one of the worst moments tonight with Ammo /IS. I went out with my SO to dinner and she ended up talking to the waiter which is fine but ended up speaking to him more than me, and even so when I asked him questions to get involved in the conversation he would not even make eye contact with me but kept on ignoring my involvement and talked to my SO. It was all business and stuff but I could see that I was being ignored. Ammo IS got me no respect. Furthermore, my SO paid me no respect. I’m wondering if this combination is really meant for church and bingo. Something like 70 year olds would like. When I go out with A314 I get either into fights with parents or respect and conversations from older people. Now you may say why not just add A314 to the mix and I think that may be something I’ll try but I’m starting to feel like that albino budgie that is sweet and gets walked over because of a lack of respect from other birds 😮. I need to turn the tables in my favor. Any tips? WOuld you recommend just adding in a314 or would you recommend using IS in the morning by itself, and ammo a314 together at night for a more powerful vibe. I want celebrity status without coming off high on pride. dsouza ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/5 "2011-05-07T22:52:06Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Ammo IS got me no respect. Furthermore, my SO paid me no respect. For respect, your behaviour would have to do most of the work when wearing Ammo/IS IMO, or you would need to add a **small** amount of A314. This is a fun/social thing, and should be worked like that. Whilst the respect conferred by A314 is great, it can also work against you. It recently got back to me that one woman (early 30s) who gave impressive fallout/IOIs to me but no more when exposed to A314/IH/P74/TUTH found me very attractive, she told her (also my) friend that “I can’t imagine just cuddling with him,” ho-hum…! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/6 "2011-05-07T22:56:12Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > I want celebrity status without coming off high on pride. Hmm - Ammo and [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) maybe? Charismatic certainly! ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/7 "2011-05-08T02:08:47Z")
where did you find ammo with akuto? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/8 "2011-05-08T02:26:47Z")
You get it via the fragrance customisation page: [Men’s Fragrance Customization :: Custom Additions :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/9 "2011-05-08T03:27:07Z")
That’s really odd. While Shine is social and Ammo does have Anol in it, it also has both none and rone so I don’t get the church bingo vibe at all. In fact at double strength it’s possible to OD even with the social aspect of Ammo. Usually if I wear three sprays of Heavy Ammo I find I need some IO or Shine just to not come off too abrasively. None and Rone are the main mones that might be considered “masculine” (yes John I know but for simplicities sake I’ll label them that way for this discussion). One in simple terms communicates physical dominance (None) and the other communicates status and social dominance (Rone). It’s possible that the display you witnessed between your SO and the Waiter was a “shit test”…basically at that moment you were giving off a vibe that felt a little more masculine and aggressive than what she’s normally used to getting from you and was acting to see if you were going to be congruent with it. ---
**Author:** ![Gotchaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/35a633/32.png) [@Gotchaz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gotchaz)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/10 "2011-05-08T03:59:31Z")
Rad that would make a great topic to start, “mones and shit tests” lol yeah that’s a very good insight, if you project a more alpha image chances are you’ll get more shit tests to see if it’s legit. Very very good point 😃 Thanks mate food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![henk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/henk/32/5189_2.png) [@henk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/henk)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/11 "2011-05-09T23:38:55Z")
Rad is right… But i’ve never seen more shit tests with Ammo and Is. I see it alot with A314. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-ammo-akuto-has-arrived-for-me/50214/12 "2011-05-15T23:25:20Z")
Need some tips when transitioning from ammo/is to is/tuth. Any starters? Ammo/IS seems to work best as a blonde magnet for me although I get attention from other people too I see a trend here. Also I find although its sensual , interesting, polite, and masculine, its unlike horsepower for turning a woman’s thoughts to getting sexual. To much can happen from the moment a conversation is sensual till it gets physical. We’ve all heard of LMR. I have found when wearing tuth blacks and latinas respond to me initially, probably because of the higher none signature. But suppose I want to get that blondy to let’s say show more than just sensual interest. Would tuth work on her or would it backfire? I tend to come across as tough in my face and tough in my vocal pitch. I’m wondering if this combined with tuth will make women pull away from me? Also tuth tends to reak. Is the neroli cover good enough? I can’t handle much cologne because of allergies. I am blood type O, east indian, and have a lot of muscle mass. I also take supplements for testosterone production like Tongkat Ali herb so I’m always afraid I may OD on tuth for blondy. BUT wait… in some ways it suits me more because I look spanish and also because I have a fairly muscular look, and masculine face. Perhaps I can also be congruent with it. Will it tune me out? Is it only useful to woman during ovulation? I am finding ammo at 2 sprays double strength with 2 sprays IS double strength to do the job currently of a sensual polite charming vibe. But I need more action. I don’t want to mess up with a none OD. When women sense tuth do they feel they either want to fight or fuck or can they also feel they just want to make out lustfully? In that case a transition from ammo/is may be smoother. Going from a sensual Johnny Depp Vibe, to a Brad pitt I will screw you vibe maybe too much too fast. We don’t have to incoporate hormones into the mix anymore than we have here. For instance if I could get a woman thinking sexually, I could flirt with her if she gives me some touching. Like say “be careful if you touch me I may want to touch you back with a grin”. Or if she says “I am wearing a skirt today” say “I should take a peak under there”.. .. something to get her hot verbally even if it doesn’t lead to hormonal sex. But this requires her touching me. Maybe IS AMMO p83 is the magic of going from what I described from ammo to foreplay because of the p83.. .. and tuth is the fucker. dsouza