# new chocolate covered theory **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 18, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651 "2007-01-18T16:40:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/1 "2007-01-18T16:40:11Z")
im looking for evidence to support my theory that chocolate affects copulin output. some women have high copulins output, its supoosedly heavier just before menses, and chocolate is the sole-diet of atleast 1/3 of the women the days just before so i have to wonder… if chocolate affects the bodies chemistry (does it not affect seratonin or mimic or whatnot?)maybe it also makes a gal sexy. okay, so this might be a huge jump…maybe even needing the help of moon-shoes, but anyone with me on this? ---
**Author:** ![Guardian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@Guardian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Guardian)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/2 "2007-01-18T18:24:42Z")
Lor: I am not sure about chocolate but here is an interesting article to consider.. A series of short-chain fatty acids (copulins), produced by bacterial action from components of vaginal secretions, are involved in the olfactory communication of the female’s sexual attractiveness to the male. In intact females, the content of acids in vaginal lavages decreases at midcycle when the female’s attractiveness is highest. To test if this apparently anomalous decrease was due to an increase in the rate at which secretions were externalized, 422 wipes of the sexual skin area were collected during 19 menstrual cycles and analyzed for short-chain fatty acids. Despite considerable day-to-day variations there was a trend for the acid content of the wipes to increase at mid-cycle, a result that was consistent with there being an increased flow of secretions to the outside at this time. Other factors besides the rate of externalization may also regulate the strength of the olfactory signal, and the present results are consonant with a role for these acids in signaling the fertile period to the male. Guardian 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/3 "2007-01-18T18:33:41Z")
Interesting - I’d always read that copulins are most notable at ovulation (which only makes sense biologically) and not premenstrually. Guardian, can you give us a link for that study, or the authors and where it was published? Lor, I’m with you on the chocolate (darker the better) and consider it a dietary requirement throughout the month. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guardian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@Guardian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Guardian)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/4 "2007-01-18T18:43:17Z")
Carrie: Happy to oblige with a link… [SpringerLink - Journal Article](http://www.springerlink.com/content/k319n2x0g472h565/) Guardian 😉 ---
**Author:** ![AKmedic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/akmedic/32/1487_2.png) [@AKmedic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKmedic)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/5 "2007-01-18T21:24:59Z")
Wow… upping natural copulin production…that’s a great motivator to tweak my diet to allocate some of my daily cals to choccies. 😛 I can’t wait for my bottle of [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) to arrive. I think that wearing some synthetic copulins will help. ---
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/6 "2007-01-18T21:27:52Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im looking for evidence to support my theory that chocolate affects copulin output. > some women have high copulins output, its supoosedly heavier just before menses, and chocolate is the sole-diet of atleast 1/3 of the women the days just before so i have to wonder… if chocolate affects the bodies chemistry (does it not affect seratonin or mimic or whatnot?)maybe it also makes a gal sexy. > okay, so this might be a huge jump…maybe even needing the help of moon-shoes, but anyone with me on this? Well Lor, I am not sure about the copulin output, but you are correct about seratonin…some believe chocolate is an aphrodisiac, but I also heard that vanilla acts as one too, as does orange, so Androtics has got them all covered 🆒 [Chocolate: Aphrodisiac or Euphamism?](http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f02/web2/mdoughty.html) ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/7 "2007-01-18T21:37:18Z")
It is great that chocolate is considered to be a health food now…😃 😉 I always make sure that I get my required daily intake of it. Sex and chocolate are my two most favorite things, and it is a pretty close competition. Sometimes sex and chocolate combine quite nicely.😉 It is interesting to note that women especially have a high affinity for chocolate. You know what Lor, I will eat chocolate regardless of whether or not it will increase my copulin output. What the heck, I’ll give it a try. 😃 All for the sake of science! ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/8 "2007-01-19T00:37:48Z")
your desire to serve the pherocommunity and your willingness to endure the hardships of chocolate and sex for our sake and science sake brings tears to my eyes,Ilsa… do you have ANY idea how long it took to type that out while laughing my ass off? your too cool [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0042.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0042.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/9 "2007-01-19T02:11:53Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > your desire to serve the pherocommunity and your willingness to endure the hardships of chocolate and sex for our sake and science sake brings tears to my eyes,Ilsa… > do you have ANY idea how long it took to type that out while laughing my ass off? > your too cool > > [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0042.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0042.gif) 😃 I know, it’s rough, but someone’s got to do it. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/10 "2007-01-20T18:40:22Z")
i have also found it interesting that the more “sexual” and openminded of women that would be ballsy enough to try [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)/experiment also agree that the consumption of chocolate is high on the priority list…to the annoyance of everyone that thinks i am just playing here i do not consider this a coincidence [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/tongue0020.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/tongue0020.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Guardian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/49beb7/32.png) [@Guardian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Guardian)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/11 "2007-01-20T18:54:18Z")
Lor; You are too much, baby. I like it, keep it up…PM me if you get a minute.. Guardian 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jeanne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jeanne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jeanne)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/12 "2007-01-22T14:54:58Z")
Lor–the new February issue of _Vogue_ has an article by Jeffrey Steingarten (his food articles alone are a reason to subscribe) on **CHOCOLATE**. He eats chocolate every hour, says he. Yes, he is fat. But a most charming writer, and years ago I wrote asking him for a recipe for Tarte Tatin and he kindly responded with a 3-page handwritten letter. Maybe even on engraved stationery. So I have endless respect for him on that account alone. If you don’t want to buy the issue, PM me and I’ll scan and email it to you. Jeanne ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/13 "2007-01-22T15:05:17Z")
I am TOTALLY allergic to chocolate, but as many here know, a ton of my fragrances are gourmand and have a choccy note in them. I would literally end up in the hospital if I consumed so much as a square (same goes for drinking coffee and fresh orange) but I do adore the smell of it. “The Man” is however, anything BUT allergic to chocolate, and profits from my relatives who forget come Easter that I cannot eat chocolate.. ..he still has two uneaten Easter eggs in my freezer in fact…\>\_\< Ail 🙂 - ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/14 "2007-01-23T01:29:36Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I am TOTALLY allergic to chocolate, but as many here know, a ton of my fragrances are gourmand and have a choccy note in them. I would literally end up in the hospital if I consumed so much as a square (same goes for drinking coffee and fresh orange) but I do adore the smell of it. > > “The Man” is however, anything BUT allergic to chocolate, and profits from my relatives who forget come Easter that I cannot eat chocolate.. > > ..he still has two uneaten Easter eggs in my freezer in fact…\>\_\< > > Ail 🙂 - i had a lump in my throat the whole time i read that. Ail i am so sorry. ☹ i wonder if there is a way to circumvent the histaminic result… well, i still know that if i couldnt eat it, id still smell like it, or atleast vanilla/caramel/butterscotch. if your allergic to any or all of that, i am holding a charity benefit . there is no way im allowing it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/15 "2007-01-23T02:18:36Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I am TOTALLY allergic to chocolate, Life can be so cruel. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/16 "2007-01-23T14:39:55Z")
im starting to think butterscotch/rum and cinnamon rolls can be sexy smells too. maybe i need to modify and enlarge the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) box i have placed myself in with the chocolate… maybe it ought to be a candy cult? [http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/char1/character0283.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/char1/character0283.gif) ---
**Author:** ![dinan\_3er](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dinan_3er/32/766_2.png) [@dinan\_3er](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dinan_3er)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/17 "2007-01-23T14:54:05Z")
I love chocolate. Unfortunately I am a guy. ---
**Author:** ![Richelieu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/richelieu/32/594_2.png) [@Richelieu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Richelieu)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2007, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/18 "2007-01-23T19:58:19Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > im looking for evidence to support my theory that chocolate affects copulin output. > some women have high copulins output, its supoosedly heavier just before menses, and chocolate is the sole-diet of atleast 1/3 of the women the days just before so i have to wonder… if chocolate affects the bodies chemistry (does it not affect seratonin or mimic or whatnot?)maybe it also makes a gal sexy. > okay, so this might be a huge jump…maybe even needing the help of moon-shoes, but anyone with me on this? Lor are you trying to give yourself an excuse to eat more choccie? Because im sure you dont need one, you are a lady after all 😃 I did read something a while back about cocoa affecting peoples moods, though I cant quite remember exactly what was said might try and dig it out. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/19 "2007-01-25T02:55:31Z")
> [@Richelieu](#): > > Lor are you trying to give yourself an excuse to eat more choccie? Because im sure you dont need one, you are a lady after all 😃 > > I did read something a while back about cocoa affecting peoples moods, though I cant quite remember exactly what was said might try and dig it out. well i read where simply eating yogurt (and specifically different cultures) will alter and affect copulin output,negatively as well as positively. your body is a chem set,food is a drug. provide the right combinations and you become copulin machine (okay but not you,lol). i believe this wholeheartedly… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651/20 "2007-01-25T22:34:43Z")
> [@ilsa](#): > > It is great that chocolate is considered to be a health food now…😃 😉 I always make sure that I get my required daily intake of it. Just remember, it is really DARK chocolate that is considered to be a health benefit …supposed to have antioxidents. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-chocolate-covered-theory/1651.md?page=2)