# New & Completely Out of the Loop

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 9, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539 "2009-07-09T06:09:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![christamariee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@christamariee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/christamariee)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/1 "2009-07-09T06:09:12Z")

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Hi :]  
My name is Christa and I’ve just stumbled upon this site and a few others about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/).  
I looked through a few threads but it’s safe to say I know just about nothing.  
If anyone could direct me to some threads/stickies for super-beginners.. that’d be great! 😛

EDIT: More about myself 🙂  
Um let’s see, I’m 20 and I’m pretty outgoing. I would never use the word shy to describe myself but maybe in one on one situations I can get a little tongue tied. Also, I probably wouldn’t call myself an alpha girl, but that would definitely be a goal of mine. I don’t want to be seen as overbearing or toooo alpha girl (i’m not sure what the word is that i’m looking for) but I would definitely like to be seen as a presence.

When I first read about pheromones I instantly wanted to use them to gain more trust and open-ness with a certain friend of mine who has a hard time letting people in. Along with the alpha girl thing and I wouldn’t mind throwing a dash of sexual attraction in there 😛.

Some concerns of mine..  
Everything I’ve read on the boards here so far have seemed positive but I’ve also read some reviews on [smartmones.com](http://smartmones.com) that said EoW smelled like … i think the word was “asscheese” lol.. they said that the scent didn’t fade. I’m just looking for something that will work well with me and hopefully I won’t get that reaction ahaha (i’m thinking maybe they didn’t apply it right?)

Well that’s pretty much it.. but i’d be happy to answer anymore questions !!

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/2 "2009-07-09T06:12:56Z")

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Hi and welcome!

For beginners info, check out the sticky threads here in the New Users section and also in the Women’s section. The info is pretty well organized and easy to find.

And to get you started, can you tell us a bit about your personality and how you relate to others? Are you shy? Are you outgoing?

Also, what kinds of things were you thinking of using pheros for? Work? School? Dating? What kinds of effects do you hope to see?

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/3 "2009-07-09T06:27:09Z")

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Hello and welcome!

First, we need to know a little more about you.

Whats your personality like?

Are you outgoing or shy?

Would you say your more of an alpha girl or a beta girl? If your more alpha you’d like IS/b. If you Beta you’d like IS/a.

What would you like pheromones to do for you? get you work? Social? Sex? Love?

Just go to the women’s forum and you’ll find tons of stuff!

Good luck 😃

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/4 "2009-07-09T07:05:48Z")

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Hi there,

Welcome to the forum.

Like Happy and SK said, we need to know more informations before we can give you some recommendations.

Awating your reply.

Cheers

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**Author:** ![christamariee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@christamariee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/christamariee)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/5 "2009-07-09T18:12:07Z")

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I edited my post ! and I’ve read most of the stickies in the womens & intro forums.  
There is so much to read !

What product did you all start out on?

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/6 "2009-07-09T18:18:55Z")

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Hi there, and welcome!

For more “alpha”, I understand that TAL is very effective for women. One of the [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) mixes favors this molecule. I refer you to Happykitsune or someone else on that one, but TAL by itself is fun also.

Essence of Woman smells different to everyone who uses it. It also smells different batch to batch, and it smells different at different concentrations. At full strength, it smells like some sort of powdered grape kool aid mix, to me. At the strengths I use it, it has no scent. But “ass cheese” or not (doesn’t smell like that to me unless it has been mixed with non-sterile water and has “converted”), it works, and it’s not very difficult to cover. There’s a lot of ladies here who are experts at using huge doses without a problem. 🙂

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**Author:** ![christamariee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@christamariee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/christamariee)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/7 "2009-07-15T18:02:39Z")

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bump for gc 🙂

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/8 "2009-07-16T04:53:10Z")

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I started out with IS/a then switched to IS/b when I realized it was the better choice for me.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-completely-out-of-the-loop/30539/9 "2009-07-19T01:34:16Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Christa!

I think your outgoing personality is already a plus and it will be easier for others to open up to you because of it.

Many times people want to open up to us, so they observe our behaviour and if we are someone they can trust. I suggest you treat your friend’s situation carefully and eventually she will come to you,if she hasn’t already.

[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) allows others to feel closer to you and trust you enough to tell you things they wouldn’t normally. With that you want to practice patience and don’t seem to eager to want to pry.

Instant shine is a great product that draws others to you because you will give off that happy, youthful vibe, I can see this doing wonders with your personality.

Instant sexiness/a more suits your personality but I definitely believe you should get instant sexiness/b that will add a bit of girly goodness to your personality and this will make you even more attractive to the guys.

Keep us or me updated on your findings.

Your GC was already issued!
