# NEW! First new molecule in years, P130 -- (FREE) SURPRISE INSIDE

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**Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\
**Created:** [September 3, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344 "2010-09-03T16:22:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/1 "2010-09-03T16:22:01Z")

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Finally, after years of the R&D killing doldrums of the bad economy…

… we’re back with what we do best…  
… what we’re known and loved for…  
… what other companies and wicked people hate us for…  
… it’s an innovation…  
… a _new_ molecule, never seen before in pheromone history!

Well, ok, let’s be perfectly frank here. As many long term experimenters here know, not all molecules end up being exciting. There’s a few more duds than there are winners. At least we have a new one to test, which is better than none at all. _That’s_ exciting, right? 🙂

Initially, this is a _reporter only_ molecule. You must be an active forum “reporter”, or what we now called a member of our “Pheromone Detective Squad” to get this molecule…

… and that’s not all…

Since we’ve introduced so many new test packs today, if you get ANY of them, we’re going to throw in a 12.5 mcg per spray to-go sized P130 without charge. No cover, either. No Neroli, I mean. I mean you can try it “neat”, of course there’s no “cover charge”.

In fact, I don’t think we have this one up in our store yet for purchase, meaning you can ONLY get it for free. Not such a bad deal, eh?

Happy testing!

- Limit 50

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**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/2 "2010-09-03T16:32:11Z")

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> [@I thought I was broken... remember?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-i-was-broken-remember/25576/6):
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> Finally, after years of the R&D killing doldrums of the bad economy…
> 
> … we’re back with what we do best…  
> … what we’re known and loved for…  
> … what other companies and wicked people hate us for…  
> … it’s an innovation…  
> … a _new_ molecule, never seen before in pheromone history!
> 
> Well, ok, let’s be perfectly frank here. As many long term experimenters here know, not all molecules end up being exciting. There’s a few more duds than there are winners. At least we have a new one to test, which is better than none at all. _That’s_ exciting, right? 🙂
> 
> Initially, this is a _reporter only_ molecule. You must be an active forum “reporter”, or what we now called a member of our “Pheromone Detective Squad” to get this molecule…
> 
> … and that’s not all…
> 
> Since we’ve introduced so many new test packs today, if you get ANY of them, we’re going to throw in a 12.5 mcg per spray to-go sized P130 without charge. No cover, either. No Neroli, I mean. I mean you can try it “neat”, of course there’s no “cover charge”.
> 
> In fact, I don’t think we have this one up in our store yet for purchase, meaning you can ONLY get it for free. Not such a bad deal, eh?
> 
> Happy testing!
> 
> - Limit 50

Are the Pheromone Detective Squads just a new name for the RU’s?

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**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/3 "2010-09-03T17:36:26Z")

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Yes. PDS is the new name for RU

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**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/4 "2010-09-03T19:06:14Z")

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GAAAHHH!!!

I should have waited a day to place my order ☹

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 9:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/6 "2010-09-04T09:30:47Z")

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> [@First timer: TUTH and IS at the club, but drank too much to report anything](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-tuth-and-is-at-the-club-but-drank-too-much-to-report-anything/25579/2):
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> Are the Pheromone Detective Squads just a new name for the RU’s?

Yes, but it involves the switchover to a modern cart, as well.

Right now there’s 5 levels that nobody understands, inside or outside the project. That’s bad.

The new cart will have 2 levels that are that easy to understand. Maybe a third if we need an in-between for extra qualified, super inspired newbies that are ready n’ rearin’ to sleuth.

It’s also more fun to be a pheromone detective, wouldn’t you say? Sometimes there’s a lot of power in a name or rank.

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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/7 "2010-09-04T17:34:44Z")

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Just ordered today, hope I get one 🙂 hint hint… 😃😃😃😃😃

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**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/8 "2010-09-06T06:03:02Z")

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> [@I thought I was broken... remember?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-thought-i-was-broken-remember/25576/6):
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> Well, ok, let’s be perfectly frank here. As many long term experimenters here know, not all molecules end up being exciting. There’s a few more duds than there are winners.

So far I’ve tried about eighty percent of the pheromones that Androtics has offered. That is more than forty different individual pheromones (or putative pheromones). Some are just hard to ever get because they are rarely in stock.

I have not found any duds. I have not found any putatives which don’t do anything. There are maybe three of them which are extremely subtle, but they have valuable effects once you get it.

There is not one I would want to lose access to. I think they are all valuable – probably very valuable – in the right situation. In fact, I think most of them have the potential to anchor a consumer product, which would eventually become a company-maker all by itself. And all of them will find a valuable place in an important mix. I mean you wouldn’t give up on vanilla just because you discover chocolate, or throw out the allspice because you only cook it into beans occasionally.

So I have to disagree with Jasmin’s characterization here. If you allow yourself believe that some pheromones are duds, you’re gonna miss something valuable. Some putatives, which I failed to appreciate at first, have become the most life-changing pheromones I’ve used.

_ **Congratulations, Androtics, on P130!!** _

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**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/9 "2010-09-07T18:55:06Z")

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Was P130 meant to come unfragranced? 🙂

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**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/10 "2010-09-07T19:27:34Z")

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I’m ordering later today. I hope I get one too.

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**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/11 "2010-09-07T23:51:08Z")

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Ijust bought the Androstenol Test Kit and some other goodies. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that I receive some of this precious P130 also. I may still have to make another purchase in a few days so maybe it will become available by then.

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**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/12 "2010-09-10T12:44:13Z")

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I didnt get any P130 with my order. ☹

But I did get the Androstenol Test Kit and I am testing it out today.

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**Author:** ![Vivid\_Boy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vivid_boy/32/2225_2.png) [@Vivid\_Boy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vivid_Boy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/13 "2010-09-13T23:18:54Z")

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P130 is a smile in a bottle. I just put it on and i havent been able to stop smiling ear to ear. I feel great. Nobody is around right now so i cant tell if it will effect them..but the self effects are awesome

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**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/14 "2010-09-14T11:59:19Z")

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> [@Vivid\_Boy](#):
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> P130 is a smile in a bottle. I just put it on and i havent been able to stop smiling ear to ear. I feel great. Nobody is around right now so i cant tell if it will effect them..but the self effects are awesome

Dude I’ve been waiting for someone to say something… I’ve had the same thing… It’s like liquid or instant Xanax 😃… just makes the small things that bug you go away… I want a 30 ml… My reports in my journal… last 3 entries (journal in my sig).

Glad to hear someone else feels the same way about this one!

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**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/15 "2010-09-15T15:09:09Z")

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I must have some. Is it in the store yet.

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**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/16 "2010-09-15T18:10:22Z")

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looks like a nice social vibe if it produces a smile. can t wait to here more. i made an order the other day day hope to get a sample

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**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/17 "2010-09-15T18:55:50Z")

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Hmmmm… a hedonic pheromone… sounds dopaminergic in the right places… now we need to see if it has a rebound phase… GABAergics like Xanax can make one q. nervous/cranky when withdrawn… any way to pick up a sample ?

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**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/18 "2010-09-16T21:27:34Z")

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> [@tacitus](#):
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> Hmmmm… a hedonic pheromone… sounds dopaminergic in the right places… now we need to see if it has a rebound phase… GABAergics like Xanax can make one q. nervous/cranky when withdrawn… any way to pick up a sample ?

I haven’t noticed any rebounding effects from it. I will test it again soon and see if i notice it… but I think I would’ve noticed already 🙂

Really don’t want to use any more of it until I need it because it doesn’t appear to be in the store yet ☹ I will buy a 30ml whenever available 🆒

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**Author:** ![jokerdud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jokerdud/32/1001_2.png) [@jokerdud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jokerdud)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-first-new-molecule-in-years-p130-free-surprise-inside/41344/19 "2013-03-07T16:13:54Z")

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Wow. I’m still waiting for P130 to show up again. I really liked it and posted about it when it came out in the MX stealth sample (I think it was MX458 and MX459). But after testing it, I could never get it again. I asked and I know you said you’d put it in as a sample if you had any, but it never shows up. I did get P102 the last 3 times when I asked for samples of P130 or any MX version of P130.

Because of this I wondered if P102 was the same as P130, but this thread said that P130 was totally new, not a new purity level of a previous Pxxx.

It was also listed as a golden molecule by John, saying it was totally attainable market wise, so I still don’t see why it doesn’t surface in 30mL bottles, just for me.
