# New Guy, I need some help. **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 6, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432 "2009-07-06T04:50:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Taibo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taibo/32/1396_2.png) [@Taibo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taibo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/21 "2009-07-09T12:47:19Z")
If you had to pick one considering your situation, I would pick Ammo and I’m pretty sure everyone here will agree with that. It’ll make your more attractive to woman and it’ll even spark sexual interest. I notice when wearing it, I see a lots of woman staring at me and I catch them doing it more than once. This is your best bet right now! ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/22 "2009-07-09T13:19:10Z")
> [@bedojo](#): > > not if u move to a different country like… africa 😃? OP needs to reply so we can get back on topic lol Africa is a continent. I just had to point that out. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/23 "2009-07-09T13:24:59Z")
Actually, I have to agree with a lot of this. I dated a nice guy for almost two years and the beginning and the end of our relationship went a lot like Story 1. He came on too strong in the beginning, smothered me throughout the relationship, tried to switch it up in the end, but by then it was too late. > [@Taibo](#): > > Unless you’re Brad Pitt than yeah, but what if our friend rise here didn’t get lucky in the gene pool? I never said “cocky eye contact, acting douchbaggery or any jerk factor”. Our friend rise has a problem with being stuck in the friends zone, so let’s stay on topic and address his problems. This may be long rise but maybe it may help you why you are stuck in the friend zone. > > THE MEETING STORIES > > Here’s “Meeting Story #1”: > > Boy is attracted to girl. Unfortunately, boy > doesn’t have a clue about how to make girl feel > ATTRACTION for him… so, instead he tries to > “pursue” girl by offering her dinners, gifts, and > flowers. Girl finds boy “nice”, but there are no > “sparks”, so she “just likes him as a friend.” > > Here’s “Meeting Story #2”: > > Boy is attracted to girl. Fortunately for him, > boy understands ATTRACTION, and begins to > communicate with girl in a way that makes her feel > a powerful physical and emotional response for boy > that she can’t control. The sparks fly, and boy > and girl “get together.” > > As I’m sure you know… > > In story #1, GIRL is in total control of the > situation and both of them know it. > > In story #2, BOY is the one who’s in control of > the situation. > > THE STORIES OF HOW THINGS “END UP” > > Let’s assume that somehow, boy and girl > actually “get together”. Things usually go one of > two ways after that… > > Here’s “End Up Story #1”: > > Boy and girl get together. Boy realizes that he > “REALLY likes” girl. Boy begins to act more and > more predictable. Boy starts to share “how he > feels” about girl too often. Boy becomes more and > more submissive. Girl loses that feeling of > ATTRACTION that she once had for boy and has no > way of explaining or understanding why. Girl > leaves boy and boy is left wondering what > happened. > > Here’s “End Up Story #2”: > > Boy and girl get together. Boy understands that > no matter how much he likes girl, he cannot let > himself become a Wussy who chases girl around > “sharing how he feels” and becomes boring. Boy > keeps the relationship interesting and he keeps > challenging girl. Boy stays in control of himself, > and by understanding his role as “The Man” in the > relationship, keeps girl interested and attracted > to him into the future. > > And again, as I’m sure you know… > > In story #1, GIRL is in total control of the > situation and both of them know it. > > In story #2, BOY is the one who’s in control of > the situation. ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/24 "2009-07-09T19:55:59Z")
> [@Pirouette](#): > > Africa is a continent. I just had to point that out. 😉 lol raped… :o if u had to pick one i would pick ammo, but if ur planning on covering it with your own cologne pay the extra 20 for neroli scented, cant cover the game scented one very well ---
**Author:** ![rise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/958977/32.png) [@rise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rise)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/25 "2009-07-10T01:05:33Z")
> [@bedojo](#): > > lol raped… :o > > if u had to pick one i would pick ammo, but if ur planning on covering it with your own cologne pay the extra 20 for neroli scented, > cant cover the game scented one very well So if I buy Ammo, i can’t use cologne? And [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) scented is the other option? And what about the game scented one? hahah sorry I’m super n00b. Again, I appreciate everyones help (: ---
**Author:** ![Taibo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taibo/32/1396_2.png) [@Taibo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taibo)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/26 "2009-07-10T01:29:09Z")
I think Ammo smells pretty good, I wear it and all my other pheromones without any cologne. Just get Ammo first and spray it on yourself and see how it smells, at first I didn’t like the smell then after a few more uses I actually LOVE the smell of Ammo. Since you’re tight on a budget, you don’t have to spend extra to buy any scent, just use regular cologne. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432/27 "2009-07-10T19:04:53Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Rise! I see your post caused a little friction there. Why are you coming on my forum causing trouble dude ? 😛 Let me just clear up some things in this post so everyone can know. I think the choise of wording was wrong. Women like nice guys but not PUSHOVERS. We want you to be nice but if we feel we can walk all over it means everyone can and that is just not attractive. A woman needs to know her man is sweet enough to be all she desires but strong enough to take a stand where they should etc. the bedroom and other situation. _Making sense so far_ Nothing wrong with being romantic, we ladies can say chivalry is not dead you just need to balance it off. Don’t go all out too soon and seem clingy or eager. Play it cool and nice. The men section is full of PUA journals and information to assist in that area. Don’t be a jerk but play it cool and you want to experiment with these two products. [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) which will give off that I just got some you could be next vibe and Instant gentleman which will give that cool, suave dude vibe. Not both at the same time and use instant shine to buffer and add a finishing touch. Your GC is on it’s way! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-guy-i-need-some-help/30432.md?page=1)