# new here. advice needed **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 29, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134 "2009-12-29T13:06:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joymojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58956e/32.png) [@joymojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joymojo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/1 "2009-12-29T13:06:13Z")
Hi I’m new here! I have read the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) guide for women and I still need advice on what I want to get. Im looking for one which will make guys notice me or even smile and chat me up. I havent been lucky in the love department. The guys I like dont notice me at all or if they notice me, they just look and thats it. What should I get based on my needs? I have a tight budget so I can limit to two. I was thinking Mx135? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/2 "2009-12-29T14:08:18Z")
Have you checked out the introductions section dearie? If you properly introduce yourself and such, people will recommend what product would be best AND you can get a $25 GiftCard. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![joymojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58956e/32.png) [@joymojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joymojo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/3 "2009-12-29T14:10:57Z")
Hi I just did. Ooops I didnt know I was supposed to ask for recommendations at there as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/4 "2009-12-29T23:04:04Z")
> [@joymojo](#): > > Hi > I just did. Ooops I didnt know I was supposed to ask for recommendations at there as well. Good times, I saw you made an introductory post and if you want to ask more questions in the women’s section that is fine. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/5 "2010-01-01T13:12:08Z")
Speaking as a guy, being warm and friendly will get you more attention from us. Women are the choosers, not the guys. The man may take the initiative, but she decides if she’ll shoot him down or not. As a result, we tend to wait for obvious indicators of interest (“IOIs”) or some kind of invitation to strike up a conversation, because we feel tension around women we are attracted to (a lot of women don’t realise this! You have power over us!). So smile and make eye contact. Instant Shine might help you here. As may Openness or [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/). ---
**Author:** ![Nehve1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nehve1/32/959_2.png) [@Nehve1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nehve1)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/6 "2010-01-02T05:18:22Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > Speaking as a guy, being warm and friendly will get you more attention from us. Women are the choosers, not the guys. The man may take the initiative, but she decides if she’ll shoot him down or not. As a result, we tend to wait for obvious indicators of interest (“IOIs”) or some kind of invitation to strike up a conversation, because we feel tension around women we are attracted to (a lot of women don’t realise this! You have power over us!). So smile and make eye contact. Instant Shine might help you here. As may Openness or Come Talk To Me. I’m glad to see a guy write this. I’ve heard this before, but usually it’s women saying it. Giving IOIs is hard for me…so I guess it works both ways. When I like someone, I tend to be less friendly (as if I could be any less) and as nonchalant as possible. :o ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2010, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/7 "2010-01-02T05:53:39Z")
> [@Nehve1](#): > > I’m glad to see a guy write this. I’ve heard this before, but usually it’s women saying it. Giving IOIs is hard for me…so I guess it works both ways. When I like someone, I tend to be less friendly (as if I could be any less) and as nonchalant as possible. :o Argh! I do this too, and it sucks. ☹ When I like a guy, I tend to withdraw and become more shy around him, waiting for him to initiate. And what if he’s reticent as well? Then we both lose out! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/8 "2010-01-03T07:13:22Z")
> [@Pirouette](#): > > Argh! I do this too, and it sucks. ☹ When I like a guy, I tend to withdraw and become more shy around him, waiting for him to initiate. And what if he’s reticent as well? Then we both lose out! I used to be this way. Eventually I came to realize that they’re just as scared as we are, and that if nothing happens then it’s just not meant to be. I do still act slightly different around the guys I like tho. I’m a lot more confident with the guys who are just my friends… that’s probably why they all want to date me \>.\< Ugh.. it’s always the guys you don’t like who want you. Poo. ---
**Author:** ![Pirouette](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pirouette/32/1995_2.png) [@Pirouette](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pirouette)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/9 "2010-01-03T14:08:18Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Ugh.. it’s always the guys you don’t like who want you. Poo. Yeah, I’m dealing with this right now.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/10 "2010-01-03T22:39:02Z")
> [@Pirouette](#): > > Yeah, I’m dealing with this right now.🙄 Lol, on the plus side it shows the other guys you are desired. I feel bad about it, but it’s part of the reason why I keep the guys who like me around. That and I actually want to be their friend, they just don’t know they’ll be my friend in the end 😛 ---
**Author:** ![joymojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58956e/32.png) [@joymojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joymojo)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-advice-needed/35134/11 "2010-01-04T07:21:28Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > Speaking as a guy, being warm and friendly will get you more attention from us. Women are the choosers, not the guys. The man may take the initiative, but she decides if she’ll shoot him down or not. As a result, we tend to wait for obvious indicators of interest (“IOIs”) or some kind of invitation to strike up a conversation, because we feel tension around women we are attracted to (a lot of women don’t realise this! You have power over us!). So smile and make eye contact. Instant Shine might help you here. As may Openness or Come Talk To Me. I used to like 2 guys and I believe we got along pretty well. Personally I thought it was obvious that I liked the guy. I also thought they kinda liked me. But oh no it turned out they liked someone else…someone prettier. So imagine my disappointment. One of the guys, he barely talked to that girl but he liked her anyway because she’s pretty. She didnt like him though. lol Im getting those you suggested. Thanks!