# New here--MX105 vs. A314? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 1, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356 "2007-09-01T21:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![juggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@juggler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/juggler)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/1 "2007-09-01T21:38:46Z")
Hi, I’m new here and wondering what age people should typically start using A314 as opposed to MX105? or does it matter more what the age of your target is? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/2 "2007-09-02T00:43:17Z")
Welcome to the forum. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) wear differently on different people. Also, the people exposed react differently. It’s very difficult to impossible to choose a particular “target” and predict the reaction. Of course, you can try exposing a person to different pheromones and see how they react. That will give you a pretty good indication of how they will react in the future. Mx105 is an experimental test mix. I don’t believe the components have been revealed. You can search the forum for other’s experiences with mx105 and you may find some information of interest. ---
**Author:** ![XDragonX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/6f9a4e/32.png) [@XDragonX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XDragonX)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/3 "2007-09-02T20:02:14Z")
Actually any age is fine, it’s just your target’s age that matters. Generally A314 makes you appear older but even at a young age it’s fine to use as long as you aren’t going for teenage targets. You will generally attract the more mature females with it ---
**Author:** ![Fra\_Septimus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fra_septimus/32/692_2.png) [@Fra\_Septimus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fra_Septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/4 "2007-09-03T16:28:47Z")
Hey, it’s about time we had a Juggler! Welcome to the group!🙂 Actually, with some of the mixes I’ve seen posted here, these guys must be pretty efficient bottle jugglers themselves!😃 😃 😃 😃 Have fun and let us all know what you find out! Information yearns to be free! ---
**Author:** ![juggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@juggler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/juggler)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/5 "2007-09-03T18:33:27Z")
So let’s say theoretically speaking, for someone in their mid-20s who has an average phero-signature (whatever that means) with average attractive targets primarily ranging from 18-22…would you recommend MX105 or A314? ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/6 "2007-09-03T19:25:49Z")
> [@juggler](#): > > So let’s say theoretically speaking, for someone in their mid-20s who has an average phero-signature (whatever that means) with average attractive targets primarily ranging from 18-22…would you recommend MX105 or A314? Juggler, I probably would recommend MX105 over A314 for your age in ‘social settings’. The thing is, with all the alcohol spray versions of A314 (MX102-MX105, MX172, etc), they diffuse quicker than the oil-based A314. Given that the A314 formula contains a minute amount of Androstenone, this can lead to slightly sexual/edgy reactions on occassion. Some people seem to like these mixes because of that I think. On the forum for example, examine likes MX105 and Thomas Lavoie likes MX102 (both guys around your age from memory though Thomas may be a little younger). Another thing to consider is that high doses of MX105 (3 sprays or higher), like A314 (higher than 2 drops for example), can kind of ‘ruin’ a romantic/sexual mix for me. Even though MX105 has been desribed as a ‘younger man’s’ A314, an A314-type mix without some of the darker components of the original and which is ‘lighter’ as opposed to the ‘heavy feel’ of A314, too much I believe is still not great. I recommend 2 sprays and no more at a time for MX105. A314 is still better for work IMHO over MX105 though… Hope that helps, Visionary. ---
**Author:** ![juggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@juggler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/juggler)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/7 "2007-09-03T19:36:01Z")
Thanks Socrates, That is exactly the type of explanation I was looking for! Based on your recommendation, I’ll probably get both for use in different settings. –Juggler ---
**Author:** ![juggler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea5d25/32.png) [@juggler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/juggler)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/8 "2007-09-03T19:39:28Z")
Does anyone try mixing them? Say, one drop of A314 with a spray of MX105? I would think that the mixture might help accentuate the effects of the 105 a bit longer. Would there be any noticeable downside to doing this? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-here-mx105-vs-a314/5356/9 "2007-09-15T17:34:29Z")
> [@juggler](#): > > Does anyone try mixing them? Say, one drop of A314 with a spray of MX105? I would think that the mixture might help accentuate the effects of the 105 a bit longer. Would there be any noticeable downside to doing this? Welcome to the forum Juggler. I have tried many mixtures myself, some with A314, but I don’t have MX105 so I couldn’t tell you how that would work out. What I can tell you when mixing start out with the one product and become acclimated to the nuances it produces. Then after you are able to recognize each products affects on your desired target and your own “sweet spot” then you will have an upper hand on how the other product mixed in might affect the synergy between the two and the vibe you are seeking. There are some terrific mixers on here and I’m sure you have already immersed yourself into this world. Jasmin the admin has asked me to welcome you to our forum and let you know your gift certificate is on its way within 24 hours. Anyway welcome to the forum.