# New Member: My First Androtics Purchase **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 17, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870 "2011-10-17T11:46:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/1 "2011-10-17T11:46:18Z")
Hi I’ve just signed up after doing alot of pheromones research lately and reading alot of the pheromonetalk forums I look forward to learning more about pheromones, though I have done a fair bit of research & study already I’ve posted my intro at: [Hello From GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-gettheedge/52869) if you would like some background info on me 🙂 I was wondering what everyone thought about my first Androtics purchase, so far I’m thinking of buying the following products in one fell swoop, as my first buy: A314 (probably oil version) Turn Up The Heat (regular strength, I’m 26) Instant Shine Instant Honesty and Ammunition I was planning to wear the A314 + TUTH + IS + IH at the same time, I dont think I really need to add the ammunition, so its kind of a spare [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/), maybe I might wear it by itself sometimes to see what its like. And then go to the club with A314 + TUTH + IS + IH on and basically yep, get laid 😃 It seems like a good mix to me to take care of everything I need, plus leaving me to do the rest You could say I already have some skill at this, I reckon this phero combination would give me quite a big boost and make things work ever the so much easier and smoother I’m aware of and well-practiced in all of the “pickup arts” in case any of you are into that. Having SNLed many a HB9 in my time. Lately I’ve just been sitting at home eating chocolate cake and getting fat though, so I’m looking to get back into it with a “bang” so to speak, and I reckon this phero mix is the perfect boost to really get me over the edge What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/2 "2011-10-17T11:56:04Z")
Yes, that is a good range of choices to get you started and as you already have experience of a pretty overt sexual phero, you should be up to using TUTH in a social context - and I see you plan on moderating it with socials, which is good. 🙂 IMO, the oil base A314 is far better in so many ways, notably subtlety and longevity. Just remember to keep your app points apart for oil and alcohol-base products or you will screw-up the diffusion no end. Alc base can be layered over each other without problem. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS is also a classic happy/sexy/good to be around combo, make good use of that on its own, or with a small amount of A314 to up the status. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/3 "2011-10-17T12:20:03Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes, that is a good range of choices to get you started and as you already have experience of a pretty overt sexual phero, you should be up to using TUTH in a social context - and I see you plan on moderating it with socials, which is good. 🙂 > > IMO, the oil base A314 is far better in so many ways, notably subtlety and longevity. Just remember to keep your app points apart for oil and alcohol-base products or you will screw-up the diffusion no end. Alc base can be layered over each other without problem. > > Ammo and IS is also a classic happy/sexy/good to be around combo, make good use of that on its own, or with a small amount of A314 to up the status. Hi buddy thanks for the reply I’m glad to see you agree my choice of products is a good one! I should be able to handle TUTH in a social context, expecially a club scene, I’m sure I could handle anything that happens I really do need a “make her want to fuck” pheromone in the mix though, otherwise the whole mix is useless lol! So I’m glad I have TUTH in the mix 😉 Cheers i’ll make sure to keep the oil and alcohol based products separated I’ve been looking around at the posts of people who have had same-night-lay success they at least partly attribute to pheromones, so far they’ve all been wearing 6-7 products lol, but I wouldnt mind getting an effect like that, as long as it doesnt break the bank lol The only thing I was thinking of adding to the mix where some copulins to get a social-proof “yeah i just had sex/get-plenty” kind of effect, not [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) though as no need to add another big -none boost hmm ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/4 "2011-10-17T12:35:53Z")
Complex mixes are interesting things but IME, less is very often more and the directness of a simpler mix can be just as effective. TBH, I’ve spent the last few months cutting back on the pheros I use in my favourite mixes and most of the time, they have been better for it. Also remember that the products you are mixing can often contain a fair number of pheros to begin with - eg, A314 has 9 pheros, TUTH three and so-on. Only the putatives are single molecule. Cops are hit or miss IME - Some here swear by them but personally, I’ve given them up for a number of reasons. Not least smell and that I was attracting a lot of very low-quality/issue laden women when wearing them - Oh and prostitutes, lots were showing interest. Not exactly what I was looking for! Several very good threads on the issues of Cops here in the last few months, you would do well to search out and read them before going that way. Oh and IJ no longer contains cops - they were removed from the formula a good while back. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/5 "2011-10-17T13:05:41Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Complex mixes are interesting things but IME, less is very often more and the directness of a simpler mix can be just as effective. TBH, I’ve spent the last few months cutting back on the pheros I use in my favourite mixes and most of the time, they have been better for it. > > Also remember that the products you are mixing can often contain a fair number of pheros to begin with - eg, A314 has 9 pheros, TUTH three and so-on. Only the putatives are single molecule. > > Cops are hit or miss IME - Some here swear by them but personally, I’ve given them up for a number of reasons. Not least smell and that I was attracting a lot of very low-quality/issue laden women when wearing them - Oh and prostitutes, lots were showing interest. Not exactly what I was looking for! > > Several very good threads on the issues of Cops here in the last few months, you would do well to search out and read them before going that way. > > Oh and IJ no longer contains cops - they were removed from the formula a good while back. Hey mate thanks for the info Its kind of in my nature to sometimes go overboard with things, so I’ll certainly try to stick to the less is more concept, expecially with -none as I remember many years ago I found a product that gave me classic -none OD symptoms like headaches, feeling abit pissed off/angry/annoyed at it was definately the product, I assume it must have been a -none product but I really dont remember I had bought afew cheap androst\* products locally and this bottle had been sitting there for a year and maybe had gone off or something because when I first bought it I didnt OD, but after sitting there for ages it began to piss me off whenever I wore it lol So I’ve tried to make sure I dont get too much -none in a single application heh AFAIK its alot harder to overdose on other chemicals than -none with some of them not really being all that overdosable, certainly if there are other chemicals besides -none I should watch out for I’d love to know hmm I’ve attracted a number of issue-laden women in the past, if they are hot maybe ok for a ONS but definately a pain for a longterm relationship lol I dunno, I wouldnt mind attracting a “hot bad girl” in a club for a night of raunchy one night fling, sometimes those women are better in the bedroom lol But I also wouldnt mind a good looking long term girlfriend, who has it all together, high class etc which I think the A314 will help with I’d probably wear just A314 if going to the movies with a long term high qual girlfriend, if we werent going to have sex that day I suppose if I wanted to have sex that day, I might be mean and wear something that makes her squirm in her seat in desire throughout the whole movie lol thanks i’ll have a look for the good copulin threads my if only there was a make her jump your bones [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) heh ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/6 "2011-10-17T16:04:56Z")
Just my opinion: [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) don’t _make_ other people wanna _do stuff_. Pheromones send an information about you to other people. So, really high dose of androstenone is not a “make her wanna fuck” phero. It’s a “let her know that I desperately wanna fuck” phero. A right dose of androstenone is like moving your hips in a sexy way on the dancefloor and having an intriguing bulge in a certain trouser area. An overdose is like running around with a bare boner and dog-humping people’s legs. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/7 "2011-10-17T16:33:36Z")
Yes - A very important point from Marihino. Very overt pheros like TUTH do need to be tuned to the appropriate social context along with the appropriate behabiours. - IME clubbing/partying mainly, with moderation, which you seem to have got the idea about. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-member-my-first-androtics-purchase/52870/8 "2011-10-17T16:40:02Z")
I know what you’re saying about copulins and social proof that it gives off _synthetically_ — I find the best way to actually get that social proof is to just use the current TUTH formula then you can ACTUALLY do what the synthetic copulins pretend you did. Much better that way. I mean, do you want to just pretend you had sex or do you actually want to have sex? 🆒 Thats my two cents.