# New Meo-Est/Est heavy mix **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 1, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-meo-est-est-heavy-mix/24421 "2009-01-01T15:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 23
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-meo-est-est-heavy-mix/24421/23 "2009-01-02T05:25:13Z")
> [@lifesgood](#): > > I’m looking for a putative that will promote kissing, etc… Maybe I will try out P102 instead of P80 first Tisha has done a lot more testing with P102 than I have, and there is a lot of overlap with her results and my understanding, though there are some differences between my experience and hers. I haven’t had the opportunity to test it like I want to, but it is my suspicion that **kissing** is exactly what P102 (about 25mcg) would add to a sensuality formula ([Self-improvement w/ P86 (Sensuality mix) - #14 by Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812/14)). If you decide to experiment with P102, Lifesgood, please report on your experience with P102 and kissing! I shall be waiting to hear about it. > [@diane999](#): > > Since the spray from the cobalt bottles and the spray from the To Go 5 mL give a different volume of the sprayed product, and I don’t know which one is the accurate dosage per spray stated, I just chose to use the 5 mL spray as my baseline for dosage. So these are sprayed into an empty 5 mL to go bottle, from 5 mL to go bottles. Does that make sense? The togo spray volume is is 5/6 (or .8333) the size of a cobalt bottle spray. A 15mcg cobalt bottle sprays 15mcg per spray. A 12.5mcg togo bottle sprays 12.5mcg per spray. If you pour the contents of a 15mcg cobalt bottle into a togo bottle, each spray from the togo bottle will be 12.5mcg. [15 \* .8333 = 12.5] If you pour the contents of a 12.5mcg togo bottle into a cobalt bottle, each cobalt bottle spray will be 15mcg. > [@lifesgood](#): > > Oh I did have a question for either Warren or Diane… So when you spray into the little To-Go bottles it goes right in? I mean i would think that the big blue bottles would waste some if I tried this. how do you make sure to get as much as possible in when you are converting to the To-Go size bottles? Thanks again for all of your help and feedback. I once tried spraying from a blue bottle into a little vitamin jar that I’d washed out. I thought it would be easier to spray into the larger mouth of the jar, and it would be bigger than 5ml, which would leave plently of room for mixing several pheromones. I lost maybe 20-30% to blowback as much of the spray just misted out each side of the mouth of the jar as I sprayed. Of course, if you use a jar with a mouth that is too small, you miss the opening and spray onto the sides of the jar and into the room! The sprayer moves up and down as you spray so the mouth of the receiving vessel has to have a diameter slightly larger than the up and down range of motion of the sprayer. The mouth of the togo bottle is almost perfect. It is as small as possible without being too small. The first time I tried it, I actually wondered if it was designed with that in mind! There is a little ledge at the point where the moving cylinder (that you press on) disappears into the spray top. Rest the mouth of the goto bottle on that ledge, properly centered, and spray gently. Holding the togo bottle at about a forty-five degree angle – and spraying directly into it – works well until it is almost full. > [@lifesgood](#): > > He thinks that he has to “trick” me into having sex right now by starting silly wrestling games or getting me drunk. I just want to switch it up a bit. Our chemistry is great but I’d like to cut the crap out sometimes and just have him just get at me LOL… My experience tells me that P83, P80 (7.5mcg), P103 and EST are good for the impetus you are looking for. Alphanol (Instant Openness), Betanol (Instant Honesty) and TAA (Instant Shine) may increase his comfort level. [Diane has her concerns with TAA](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tac-vs-taa-including-p74-p124-effects/23457/13). --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-meo-est-est-heavy-mix/24421)._