# New P74 Based Ammo Test Pack Available Now! **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [July 28, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435 "2008-07-28T16:10:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/21 "2008-08-08T07:16:07Z")
> [@douche](#): > > SteveO, if one of these _were_ to be the next ammo, which scent would it come in? Game or Ammo? I personally prefer the Ammo scent over the game scent and would prefer not to have to pay an extra $20 to have it changed to ammo from game. Maybe it would be offered in both as two separate options? The next major release of Ammo will probably have what’s currently known as the “Game” scent. That’s what we’re testing with, anyway. We might have our perfumer change it to make it a little more interesting, though. What we like about the Game scent package is that it disperses [pheromones](https://a314.com/) a little better than the current Ammo scent. Dispersion is also fairly even with most of the different pheromone molecule. It doesn’t seem to favor one molecule over the other. Overall, it’s much easier to test with, and gives us superior data to work with. Sometimes it’s not clear what to tweak about a mix with the current Ammo scent. I suppose that after a mix is nailed down with the easier to work with Game scent, we could try a version with the traditional Ammo scent and see if it still works well. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/22 "2008-08-08T08:02:10Z")
I’ve been watching results of MX275 up to MX279 this past week. So far, I think my favorites are MX277 and MX279. My friend is actually in the middle of an MX279 buzz right now. I don’t want to steer too much, so I’ll wait to post until I hear from you guys first. What have you guys been noticing with the mixes? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/23 "2008-08-08T20:29:44Z")
Ooop.. didn’t notice 'till right now, someone else’s report on MX279: > [@MX279 Unbelievable.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx279-unbelievable/16859): > > Ok.. I know there’s not much testing thats bee done on mx279.. but it is like the key to a women’s soul.. I have had 2 very interesting hits/opens while wearing just mx279. Ill share later on but can anyone out there tell me what the basic make-up of this product is? That’s an interesting report. As I said above, I liked what I saw with this one, too. There was much I noticed that my test males didn’t. These were things that only a woman watching another woman can really appreciate, but it was all really very cute. 🙂🙂🙂 So far, I really like that these mixes since they really don’t seem to cause any untoward behavior or what we like to call “emotional pollution”. Most of them are on the emotionally “up”, and a few are still attractive without using excessive amounts of androstenone or any other “dominance” pheromones. That’s good. The more positives and the less negatives, the better. What I suppose I can also reveal about MX277 and MX279, is that neither seem to suffer from P74 rundown for either the wearer of those in sniffing range. I’ve watched each a couple times, and they even seem kind of invigorating. Perhaps too invigorating from what I saw of MX279 yesterday. P74 is a great molecule, but sort of like drinking too much red wine, using too much P74 (or using P74 too often) can seem to bring an end to the party for some users. I’m interested in hearing whether you guys observe something similar with MX277 and MX279 buffering against P74 rundown. Any other mixes, too. Again, the more positives, and the less negatives, the better. Anyway, I better be off. I think I’m going to be watching either MX280 or 281 in action today. ---
**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/24 "2008-08-08T23:04:08Z")
I don’t know why but me personally see nothing comparable to AMMO effects. AMMO hits HARD.. please don’t discontinue the old AMMO! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/25 "2008-08-09T04:51:54Z")
> [@Saifz](#): > > I don’t know why but me personally see nothing comparable to AMMO effects. AMMO hits HARD.. please don’t discontinue the old AMMO! Yeah, the original Ammo can hit hard. And PheroBomb should hit even harder. (have we released the first test pack for this yet?) I don’t know if you read this elsewhere in the forum, but in case Ammo ever gets even slightly popular, we want to make sure there’s a version with as many social positives as possible, and as few negatives as possible. Something a little more “life friendly”. We don’t want to pollute (psychologically). The hardcore forum here will always have access to the original Ammo and even strong products and molecules, as far as I know. Think of it this way. If you race your car, you can buy bald looking racing tires that nobody would ever use on the street, while the masses use safe but good all-weather tires like the Michelins. Plus, even if you are a power user, sometimes you want to be able to wear something without typical androstenone type negatives… something you can wear anywhere without fear of negative reactions. Ultimately, we want the more social version of Ammo to still usable and loved by even the more hardcore folks here. Sometimes you want to drive to work in those Michelins, while you save the racing gear for the track! It’s not just different strokes for different folks, it’s also being able to use the right tools for the job. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/26 "2008-08-09T13:37:57Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > That’s right, you wonderful reporting PheroTalkers. It’s a 7 pack that’s available exclusively for reporting members of the forum. > > [MX275 to MX 281](https://pheromonelabs.com/) > > These are P74 heavy test mixes. We want to see if a P74 heavy mix could fly as the next version of Ammo. > > Try 'em, report on 'em, and most of all… have fun! > > Remember this is available only for reporting PheroTalk users. 🙂 If you report results here to PheroTalk, and you don’t see it available or at the right price, just submit a ticket or give me a call at 800-671-6464 and I’ll upgrade your account. > > PS. 48 of the new packs have been made. > > PPS. You CAN use points to pay completely or in part this new test pack. Ok i have ordered it & i will give my full report of every single type of the 7 pack there after i received it 🙂 This is provided if i got enough time to report 🙄 Btw after i ordered it, there is still 15 packs left in the quantity for your information 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Saifz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Saifz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Saifz)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/27 "2008-08-09T14:40:56Z")
I see what you’re saying Jasmin..cool. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/28 "2008-08-09T16:35:30Z")
PheroBomb? PheroBomb!?! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/29 "2008-08-10T03:07:47Z")
> [@renny](#): > > PheroBomb? PheroBomb!?! Yep, PheroBomb. The idea behind PheroBomb is not to produce the most refined or lovely effects or anything like that… but to produce the most obvious, bonk you over the head type effects (good or bad). Just like, you know… a bomb. 🙂 It’ll likely be a little too strong for most people to use with any regularity. We want to be congruent with the word “bomb”. We actually _do_ want it to be at least a little over the top. We also want it to be something that can show newbies, with certainty, SHA-BAM: pheros _work_. A fireworks like intro. The circus peanut you eat as a kid before you develop and grow your tastes for more refined (and nutritious) foods. But that’s not to say it won’t actually be useful every now and then. Maybe if you’re on the prowl at a bar or nightclub or somewhere brash, and you want results no matter what. Maybe if you don’t care if you use a formula that “sorts”. At those times, maybe a firework like PheroBomb wouldn’t be a bad idea. By “sorts”, I mean it’ll likely repel many those not ready to get busy as much it may attract others. Some people love sorting. It saves time. Some don’t care for it. Either way, it’s a typical effect of overly strong androstenone products. But PheroBomb will also be amped up with newer tech like P79, P83, etc., making a little different than something like [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). Reviewing my notes, I see we have 9 split test mixes of PheroBomb set to go. Not 100% sure if we’ll release them as one pack, or two. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/30 "2008-08-10T04:56:29Z")
I will have some input in my journal really soon about the test pack 🙂 Of course i haven’t try all 7 yet ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/31 "2008-08-10T04:59:09Z")
In all honesty, I think a simple solution is making a refined oil version of the current Ammo. Maybe up the socials per drop so that the slow diffusing properties may be countered, and even supplement some P74 with about 15mcg per drop and have a test pack revolved around something like this. The none wouldn’t hit hard, whereas the effects would be quite a bit more lasting throughout the day. I recommend this for 2 reasons: 1.) Simply put, the new ammo test pack has been a little disappointing. I received MX275 and MX276 to test out 3-4 days in advance, and initially it felt like a gold mine. Especially MX275. I made a huge thread detailing my experience about it immediately, and was hoping the rest of the mixes would be just as flabbergasting. However, one big flaw is that there’s not enough conscious attraction illicited from this test pack. And sure, certain MX’s turn out to be great (MX275, MX279, MX281), but it’s all subconscious attraction. Which in large part, means that the less successful MX’s so far haven’t been proportioned properly with P74.. better known in MHarris’s philosophy, creates a very ‘normal’ reaction (green leaf in a forest, as opposed to purple leaf example). So it’s not that it’s not working, it’s just that it’s not that daunt type product for normal usage, and results simply as a subtle mood setter. P74 works wonders with nols and even TAL, but I personally haven’t found it to be a great attraction getter when mixed with more sexual molecules (in my experiences with heavy P74, others my differ). In the way TAC sort of nullifies sexuality in mixes, is a similar mechanism arbitrated by heavy P74. Heavy bonding /= physical attraction. **EDIT:** And for the purposes of this mix, physical attraction should outweigh the nonsexual buffers. I understand a commercial product shouldn’t be in your face, especially not with sexuality, but at the same time heavy P74 is a bit like adding an bicarbonate to hydrogen; you don’t really get too much of anything, except a weak acid. And when it comes to something being a commercial release, people most likely will expect consciously aware, obvious results; not anything subtle and subconscious (like the difference between MX273 and MX271, great products, equally great but work quite differently). Plus when it comes to the word _pheromones_, just from blind association they’ll expect sexuality to some extent. **EDIT:** So either P74 needs to be dumbed down, or the more sexual molecules need to be buffed up. But for the sake of socials, I thought MX271-273 were more effective for what they were meant for. I don’t know if there was P74 in there (sure seemed like it due to the burn out and bonding, especially in 273), but it felt like it did what it was supposed to. Whereas with this ammo test pack, my overall conclusion’s been that it just falls short of being that all around attraction product that would be deemed for commercial release. Social aspect in certain products (MX275, MX277), some a little more status boosting (MX276), and some with more pronounced opposite gender attraction (MX279, MX281). But so far none of them have really come together the way I had hoped. Obviously it’s still too early for any sort of general consensus, but hopefully a couple more months down the line we’ll be a lot closer. 2.) The second reason I recommend some sort of oil product, is because I think there’s a huge untapped potential in oil version of androstenone. Slow diffusive properties that aren’t very in-your-face hard hitting, and that will last all day without refreshes and 'none buildup seems to epitomize an idealistic product. Only problem is, the only oil androstenone products have been dirty and Raw Power, both which are always out of stock, plus repel most potential users due to the 10mcg (Raw Power) per drop. If there was some sort of test pack for an all around attraction or something along those lines in an oil version, I’m sure it’d be a hit! : P Sorry for the super long post (don’t all my posts end up this way), been really busy this last week and thought this place was as good as any to let it out :-x. **Edit:** Hope the point I’m trying to get across isn’t getting misconstrued as something else; I love P74 with majority of my mixes and is one of my favorite molecules, but I think heavier P74 is detrimental (in regards to all-around attraction ala Ammunition) to the purposes of a product that’s slated for public release. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/32 "2008-08-10T15:45:06Z")
Thanks for throwing in that description of PheroBomb, Jasmin. It’s really great that Androtics is getting back on the cutting edge of things. Great to see you posting a bit as well! ---
**Author:** ![in\_uk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/in_uk/32/2130_2.png) [@in\_uk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/in_uk)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/33 "2008-08-12T02:00:19Z")
i have mx280 and mx281 and the smell great ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/34 "2008-09-06T06:29:50Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Thanks for throwing in that description of PheroBomb, Jasmin. It’s really great that Androtics is getting back on the cutting edge of things. Great to see you posting a bit as well! Thanks, Renny! _big smiles_ After going through too many techs and support employees, things are relatively stable – which is finally letting us innovate again. Honestly, even though we have some _ **great** _ employees here now, LA is still a nuisance. There’s always some sort of dumb fire to put out at our current location, most of which has to do with factors outside of our employees. So I’ll still be tied a bit for the next few months, setting up a second production lab near a major university in a new city I’ve helped to select. (we’ll also be keeping the LA one for the forseeable future) We’re trying to become more professional overall. Trying to get the best balance between crazy innovators, and the academic types to take things to the next level. I’m doing the very best I can to help setup something similar to Edison’s old Menlo Park, with some lessons learned from the Google campus I visited. An R&D factory of sorts where PhDs and ideators can come together to help create new, cool technologies that make life more interesting. It’s all been a lot harder than I thought, but I’m sure it’ll be rewarding sooner or later. These are some amazing molecules with uses we never really imagined, and I’m sure they’ll one of the next big technologies over the next 50 years. It’s really exciting! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/35 "2008-09-06T06:33:25Z")
Hey guys… I just noticed that, for some reason or other, this is one of the few packs we’ve made that didn’t sell out within a few days. Yet we have more testers now than we ever have. Probably more than double or even triple since we last introduced a major pack like this. If you could let me know why, that’d be great. I guess some mistake was made at launch, or maybe it was just summer and not many diehards were around. Either way, I’d love to hear from you. Mistakes are certainly okay, as long as we learn from them. Also, once this pack is completely sold out and we get a little more feedback, we the P83 based Ammo waiting in the wings that many have asked for. Just something to think about. _wink_ ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/36 "2008-09-06T07:19:15Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > So I’ll still be tied a bit for the next few months, setting up a second production lab near a major university in a new city I’ve helped to select. (we’ll also be keeping the LA one for the forseeable future) Tooo exciting Jasmin! Now give it up, where’s this new lab gonna be. _ **Crosses fingers and prays for Austin!** _ > [@Jasmin](#): > > Hey guys… I just noticed that, for some reason or other, this is one of the few packs we’ve made that didn’t sell out within a few days. Yet we have more testers now than we ever have. Probably more than double or even triple since we last introduced a major pack like this. > > If you could let me know why, that’d be great. You already have the answer to that, all you gotta do is think about it! You’ve brought a brilliant guy in to run the company for you, but you didn’t give him the time to hype the pack up before releasing it. Look at what he did with the new ladies MX’s. But!, after SteveO’s post in the pet peeves thread and saying that I’m his pet peeve and what irritates him, maybe I should have said that it was due to hiring a guy that can’t get the job done. 🙄 😛 But honestly you know I love ya both! ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 12:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/37 "2008-09-06T12:43:18Z")
Hey Jas, the reason I haven’t ordered the test pack is that I haven’t had a chance to fully test the other great products that you came out with just previous to that. I also got MX275 and MX276 as freebies in an order and still have them. I can’t speak to anybody elses reasons but my guess is that there was just a backlog of things we wanted to try and once the putatives an things became available we jumped on them and then the new MX’s started coming. It’s kinda like a traffic jam that still exists hours after the accident that started it has been cleared away. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/38 "2008-09-06T22:28:22Z")
I totally agree with Renny. There are just so many things to try here! If more things were out of stock, I am sure the P74 Ammo Test Pack would have sold out very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/39 "2008-09-07T01:25:50Z")
I haven’t even started this pack and you’re already gearing up the next? Yeah, too much coming through the doors! (: ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435/40 "2008-09-07T08:15:11Z")
I guess I’d have to play devil’s advocate and disagree with the rest. More than anything, in my opinion, it’s the lack of positive feedback in regards to the pack that’s contributed to its poor tester volume. Because as history shows.. if a product is deemed good enough or has enough hype, people will buy it one way or another. The subconscious crave to own a successfully hyped up product is far greater than the availability of other isotypes in the same time frame. Imagine going to a buffet, and overhearing a bunch of people rave about the delicacy of a certain lobster bisque soup. More often than not, I’m going to make sure I get a bowl for myself to taste, even if it means sacrificing the large t-bone steak or chicken kabob on the way. Not to sound like a broken record, but again I have to reiterate that I completely disagree with the notion that there’s ‘too many other products’ that’s warranting the put off of testing this pack. It’s simply (again, in my opinion) because it’s a mediocre product(s) due to a couple of things: **1.)** Being geared for commercial release, and (as Jasmin already stated) Androtics wanting to tone down the original Ammunition so it’s more friendly yet easier to use for the average Joe, it simply isn’t something the rest of the users on this forum would use on a consistent basis. This community has been testing countless # of products, some which focus a lot more on conscious reactions and provide more blatant hits, which in turn results in a lot more excitement when using these products. Whereas with this particular pack, as I mentioned in earlier posts, it’s focus centered on P74 for all-around attraction makes it too subtle of a product than what we’re all used to. Not to say it’s a bad product, it’s just something that I personally don’t see having a big bang in the commercial field. Most other competitive companies provide products with a lot of _oof,_ even if it means having improper ratios of Androstenone just to make sure the average consumer atleast notices some sort of reaction. Whereas this test pack (even though being a good product) is too subtle in all variations. (I made a post earler in this thread getting in a little more detail about the specifics) And being a little more of a subconscious playing field, it’s just not deemed to be too successful with the rest of the world who have no experience or social intelligence to tell what’s a _hit_ and what isn’t. Especially when majority of those people buying [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) are only looking to attract the opposite gender sexually. (which this test pack’s ultimate downfall is.. lack of sexual attraction except for a couple which I mentioned in some other threads). Also, I followed some of the women’s threads on their new P74 test pack with the new scents, and it seems like its the same case with them. I’ve been extremely tied up lately, but I do try to follow certain members reports, and Tisha’s report is basically what I sort of thought would have happened with this women’s pack also: good new scent that quite a few of the women here like, but the product itself is more social than anything sexual. But then again, I’m not a woman and haven’t tested it personally, so I don’t want to jump the gun on their side of things just by following some reports and assuming what may take place when certain molecules are ratio’d together in a mix. **2.)** Lack of hype; lack of positive reports. (atleast the new women’s pack had this, which ultimately resulted in them having quite a bit of testers as opposed to the men for this pack.) One last thing I want to add, is that one great P74 variant (well I think it is at least) product is MX271-273 series. So I hope I’m not coming off as saying it’s the P74’s fault, because it’s not. (its actually one of my favorite putatives) But at the same time, it elicits the most rewarding reactions when formulated for more social, rather than sexual, products. Again, in the same way that TAC nullifies sexuality, so does P74. (from my experiences, others may disagree) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-p74-based-ammo-test-pack-available-now/16435.md?page=3)