# New, Seeking Advice :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 16, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989 "2008-12-16T01:05:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/1 "2008-12-16T01:05:21Z")
I’m new to this forum, which is why i would be posting under this section. But I’m also new to the whole using [pheromones](https://a314.com/) idea as well. I think that the idea in itself is absolutely key. I’m a student in Canada, and i really want to test out some of these products, (so far instant shine, come talk to me mix, instant female magic, instant openness and a few others have really grabbed hold of my attention) I read around a good part of the forum, but i still seem to find some questions unanswered. Can someone please give me some general information, or tips as to if i where to purchase any, which ones and how to use them together. I followed some of Snook’s advice for rookie’s and that seemed to help, but i was wondering if you can wear cologne over these to make the scent less apparent? Or are they even noticeable to being with? And can you wear deodorant with these, i read somewhere you cant? And im really only interested in it for the attraction, and the relaxation and not so much the sex for the time being. okay, thanks in advance, Marc ~ [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/2 "2008-12-16T01:41:27Z")
Hey Disconnected! Welcome to the forum babe! I’m glad that you’ve grabbed the social pheros (which are a must have in every arsenal) Alrighty, so let’s see the questions: - You can use another perfume as a cover scent for your pheros. But if it’s neroli, don’t worry about it, it’s not too strong imho, it’s pretty light and you can cover it with any other perfume. You can make it more noticible if you’re into stronger perfumes. - I wouldn’t wear pheros with deodorant, cause it just doesn’t go together. I wouldn’t use them under your arms because if you sweat, they’ll diffuse much more faster…and I think certain deodorants can cause side-effects if you use them with/without pheros. I hope they answered your questions, but the guys probably know better than me, so hold on sweetie 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hoopla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b4bc9f/32.png) [@hoopla](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoopla)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/3 "2008-12-16T01:42:32Z")
Hi Disconnected, you shouldn’t wear a scent over the phermones if you are mixing them already. It will be too strong and may interfere with the way they work. People may make comments about how you smell. Use them as they are suggested and you will have the opposite sex acting goofy around you. I swear. I’ve mixed [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IS, IO, and IH and my boss made a comment about someone smelling fruity. I don’t know if he smelled it or what. I decided that I wouldn’t use as much after that. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/4 "2008-12-16T01:45:41Z")
Hey Marc and welcome to the forums! Nope, you’re not the only one who’s just looking for some social fun with these. Not even in the minority. Now, as far as being able to wear cologne with these, yes! you most certainly can. It’s recommended you wait for them to dry a bit, 15-20 min before spraying, but quite a few people like a cover scent over them. As for if they have a strong scent, most don’t after you let them dry. They may at first, and ammo always will (it has cologne mixed in), but i haven’t gotten any complaints about mine from my girlfriend. Oh, and you most certainly can wear deodorant with these. I’m pretty sure what you looked at was Snook’s OD adventure… which is not the normal use for these. 😉 Now then, let’s get a bit more about you. What kind of personality do you have, shy or outgoing? Where did you want to use your pheromones? At work, in school, at a pub? And who were you hoping to affect with them? Friends, family, co-workers, yourself? This info will help us tailor our advice to what products would be best for you, as well as earn you a $25 gift certificate. So let’s hear a bit more, eh? Ready, set… and go! P.S. It’s called cologne when its for men, msselva, not perfume. Geez, get it right. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/5 "2008-12-16T02:01:00Z")
Hey and Welcome. A kind of newbi myself. I’m learning very quickly and with lots of help, ask, try, reasons for, and all a ooppps here and there. It looks like you have a fantastic collection. **So that said are you clubbing, in a relationship, using these for work?** The best experiences and what is working for me right now, is simply keep it simple. One at a time and jot down notes. I’m using Ammo right now. Two sprays, one on each wrist. Great dry down smell and my wife doesn’t say it smells like cat pee. (I’ve over sprayed in the past! )😕 So far so good. Glances, outright looks and smiles and hair flips from women in their 20-30s and _ **gosh is that nice** _!! I’d love to spay the perfect amounts so that my wife is all over me with desire and other women are begging me for my phone numbers 😉 The attention (looks and more engaged conversations are great). As I experiment with each smart mone by it’s self, I’ll start to add all three. The results I’m sure will be equally as good.🙄 Nice people trying to help you and me with our own goals and with smart mones for the icing. Would love to hear of your success and what you are trying and what your goals are. Keep the attitude and the spray and have some fun! Lotusse3 -Jim > [@Disconnected](#): > > I’m new to this forum, which is why i would be posting under this section. But I’m also new to the whole using pheromones idea as well. I think that the idea in itself is absolutely key. I’m a student in Canada, and i really want to test out some of these products, (so far instant shine, come talk to me mix, instant female magic, instant openness and a few others have really grabbed hold of my attention) I read around a good part of the forum, but i still seem to find some questions unanswered. Can someone please give me some general information, or tips as to if i where to purchase any, which ones and how to use them together. I followed some of Snook’s advice for rookie’s and that seemed to help, but i was wondering if you can wear cologne over these to make the scent less apparent? Or are they even noticeable to being with? And can you wear deodorant with these, i read somewhere you cant? And im really only interested in it for the attraction, and the relaxation and not so much the sex for the time being. > > okay, thanks in advance, Marc ~ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/6 "2008-12-16T02:03:13Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Where to get them… smartmones is the only place you can get these particular products . Just click on the name. You can cover them with cologne if you want. You dont always have to. Only if you dont like the scent. You dont have to wait 10 to 15 minutes to layer them unless you are covering the scent because you dont like it. The only thing this does is prevent bleed through of the underling scent. > [@](#): > > P.S. It’s called cologne when its for men, msselva, not perfume. Geez, get it right. Actually they have perfume and cologne for men, same as with women. 😉 Yes you can were deodorant but not where you apply your mones. You should not apply mones to your pits or groin. They convert quickly from the high bacteria levels in these areas and turn real stinky fast. What you have chosen is great for your objective. Now lets get you qualified for your GC. A bit about your personality and how you found the forum should do it Looking forward to your reply Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/7 "2008-12-16T03:00:55Z")
> [@Mr.Feel\_Good](#): > > Now then, let’s get a bit more about you. What kind of personality do you have, shy or outgoing? Where did you want to use your pheromones? At work, in school, at a pub? And who were you hoping to affect with them? Friends, family, co-workers, yourself? This info will help us tailor our advice to what products would be best for you, as well as earn you a $25 gift certificate. So let’s hear a bit more, eh? Ready, set… and go! Hm, well, i can be both shy and outgoing, people think im shy if they don’t know me, its just because in school, i tend to be sleepy, relaxed and putting any little focus i have into getting some school work done or making it through the day. I wanted to use my pheromones mostly in school, im still a student, and at parties or other such gatherings. There is this one girl i would really like for them to have an effect on. I’ve liked her for a while, and she has liked me too. (I guess i should give more back story on that) well, she dated my friend last year, which was how i met her, and they broke up, and she came to me in need of someone to talk to, that night she told me that she liked me for a while (the night they broke up) and i liked someone else at the time, but i also liked this girl too. I never made a move on her after which i regret and the other girl is now with her long time boyfriend again. but ive liked her ever since, and we went on one date when she told me she liked me again (a few weeks ago) and after that date, she thinks of me only as a friend. And she ignored me for a week, and then when she finally talked to me, we talked and she said she really wanted to like me because she thought i was sweet and such, but there was something holding her back, and she needed some time to think, but she still wanted to talk to me in the meantime and hang out with me. She never talked to me again for about another week, and then when she did talk to me, she said it wasnt going to happen. and i was thinking how? she never even talked to me for a week. Point of the matter is, thats who i want to try it on, i want to test it first, and then use it on her. This girl is super confusing, and super tricky, and super good at hiding her emotions, or her IOI’s and that sort of thing. And i’ve caught on to a few of her IOI’s towards me, but like she wont come out and say anything. i hope that helped you help me 😃 _EDIT_ - At Tisha : - More about my personality huh? Well, I’m a student, I’ll let you guys guess my age. 😛 and I’m into sports like basketball, and volleyball, golf, track and field (and others for playing) , and any other sport for spectating. I’m the kind of guy who’s not afraid to show his sensitive side, to a certain point. I’m the easiest guy to get along with, super easy to talk to, and i care about my hygiene a lot. I have a lot of male friends but i most likely have many more female friends. They all compliment me and try to keep my spirits up by telling me that I’m good looking and a sweetheart. But i have low self esteem at times, and i lack some confidence. But other times i can have confidence to spare. - As for how i found the forum, i was on a website that my friend linked me through MSN messenger. In the top corner of the page there was an ad for a product called pheroline, and i read some more on the site, for the ad seem to be advertising such wonderful things. I then ran a google search to hopefully find some more biased information, i came across a thread on this forum, and I’ve been here reading threads and such for a day before i joined. And thats all 🙂 thanks again guys, Marc~🆒 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/8 "2008-12-16T03:20:08Z")
Hmmm - the old “shy and out-going and I want to get the girl but it tricky” thing … lol. No problem - we do it all the time. LOL. Well, not really, but we try to get you pointed in the right direction. The social products: Instant shine, CTTM2, and IO along with IFM are a good place to start. You seem to know what they do so I will not belabor the point. Irf you have not placed your order yet - not sure if you have or or just considering those products - then I would recommend looking at [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). It will give you a cool, smooth vibe and hence make you seem a little older than you are. Often a nice vibe with girls your age or a little younger. But all in all you seem to be aimed in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/9 "2008-12-16T04:10:26Z")
> [@bosshank](#): > > Hmmm - the old “shy and out-going and I want to get the girl but it tricky” thing … lol. No problem - we do it all the time. LOL. Well, not really, but we try to get you pointed in the right direction. > > The social products: Instant shine, CTTM2, and IO along with IFM are a good place to start. You seem to know what they do so I will not belabor the point. > > Irf you have not placed your order yet - not sure if you have or or just considering those products - then I would recommend looking at Instant Gentleman. It will give you a cool, smooth vibe and hence make you seem a little older than you are. Often a nice vibe with girls your age or a little younger. > > But all in all you seem to be aimed in the right direction. aha, i wish you guys had that question all the time 😛 Yeah i did some research before posting like a good little newbie. And i just gathered those products from suggestions on the forums, and the description on the site where these are for sale. and i will consider the gentleman one too. Oh, and i dont actually own any of these… YET. so thats why i dont have an order placed yet. i will eventually though ! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/10 "2008-12-16T04:39:38Z")
Anyways, I joined the partay so late lol excuse me for that. But I forgot to mention, hope you have fun with your pheros when they get home -disconnected 🙂 > [@tisha23](#): > > Actually they have perfume and cologne for men, same as with women. 😉 Thanks for answering that for me, love 😉🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/11 "2008-12-16T05:06:15Z")
> [@msselva](#): > > Anyways, I joined the partay so late lol excuse me for that. But I forgot to mention, hope you have fun with your pheros when they get home -disconnected 🙂 > > Thanks for answering that for me, love 😉🆒 aha nonsense 😛 no time is too late to join 😃 and i havent ordered them yet, mostly cost is a factor where i live in canada and they would be more expensive here and then plus shipping and handling. Thats also another thing, what would be the best mix, or variety of mixes i could get for a lower price perhaps 😮 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/12 "2008-12-16T17:37:49Z")
Excellent details. I lost my edge, with women…years of marriage so my confidence was a bit low. I’ve worked on that, and there are great guides on this site. I started adding [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) with my Ammo. Results at Work. FANTASTIC. I’m not as young as you, but Instant Shine seems to have this weird very good weird effect. I feel more confident, for three days now, women look and talk to me much longer and are really into the coversation. I’ve noticed an incedible amount of casual touches from my colleagues who are women and of Course My Wonderful Wife. Seems to make me seem younger, while I’ve read others say it makes them have a more sophisticated aura. I’ve wasted so much money on pheromones…“snake oil” that have not worked. Honestly, Androtics products work and there is support. I’m sure there are other companies out there with good products. But I’m sticking with Androtics. I trust them, the users, the freind’s I’m making and the results. -Lotusse3 ---
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/13 "2008-12-16T19:52:31Z")
> [@lotusse3](#): > > Excellent details. I lost my edge, with women…years of marriage so my confidence was a bit low. I’ve worked on that, and there are great guides on this site. > > I started adding Instant Shine with my Ammo. Results at Work. FANTASTIC. I’m not as young as you, but Instant Shine seems to have this weird very good weird effect. I feel more confident, for three days now, women look and talk to me much longer and are really into the coversation. I’ve noticed an incedible amount of casual touches from my colleagues who are women and of Course My Wonderful Wife. > > Seems to make me seem younger, while I’ve read others say it makes them have a more sophisticated aura. > > I’ve wasted so much money on pheromones…“snake oil” that have not worked. Honestly, Androtics products work and there is support. I’m sure there are other companies out there with good products. But I’m sticking with Androtics. I trust them, the users, the freind’s I’m making and the results. > > -Lotusse3 Yeah, thats another thing i was wondering about, where im youunger will it not have the same effect on me, or not work properly or something of that nature?😮 ---
**Author:** ![lotusse3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@lotusse3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lotusse3)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/14 "2008-12-16T21:33:39Z")
That’s the cool thing is you are younger. Instand Shine will work better, read the thread on it. Ammo, will work better. _ **Your body produces more pheromones than mine.** _ The Great new is the smart pheromones are easier for you because you are younger. I’m not bitter haha 😉 I’m just a bit older! So you get all of the benefits and less spays (depending upon your goals or needs) Pretty cool for you, your budget and your Fun. Lotusse3 > [@Disconnected](#): > > Yeah, thats another thing i was wondering about, where im youunger will it not have the same effect on me, or not work properly or something of that nature?😮 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/15 "2008-12-17T01:45:13Z")
Hello, Thank you so much for providing more info, Sorry I am late, Christmas at the Postal service can be hell LOL (Thats my day job) I think the products you discussed with Bosshank are great to start with so lets get that GC out to you so you can join in the fun. **I bestow upon you … Disconnected, the coveted $25 GC** Its on its way to your email 😉 Have fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Disconnected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@Disconnected](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Disconnected)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2008, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-seeking-advice/23989/16 "2008-12-19T15:03:26Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hello, Thank you so much for providing more info, Sorry I am late, Christmas at the Postal service can be hell LOL (Thats my day job) > > I think the products you discussed with Bosshank are great to start with so lets get that GC out to you so you can join in the fun. > > **I bestow upon you … Disconnected, the coveted $25 GC** > > Its on its way to your email 😉 > > Have fun > > Tisha Thanks a lot Tisha 😃 i’ll be sure to put it to its best use 😃