# New to PheroTalk

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [December 3, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572 "2008-12-03T17:15:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![phaelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ea5d25/32.png) [@phaelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaelo)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/1 "2008-12-03T17:15:10Z")

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Hello all!

I’m new to the site and I’ve read some of the posts and I was supprised at how cool and helpful everyone seems! In everything i’ve read everyone is bouncing ideas back and forth or if someone asks a question they actually get a real answer! I was even more supprised when I read that you can get a gift card for signing up and introducing yourself. So I looked at a few other people’s interductions to get a idea of what to expect and was deeply and truly impressed that members were commenting on new members in a positive/helpful way! I’m used to more… blunt forums to say the least, but enough about what you allready know.

I’m 23, Male, Bi, and live in Michigan and work full time. I was surfing the web and saw a banner ad for Pheroline and it got me curious about pheromones so I did some searching and it brought me here. After work I spend alot of time just hanging out with friends and usualy go out to partys on weekends. I don’t go to clubs often but would like to. Problem is I am not the best at striking up random conversation with people so if I’m around people I don’t know I end up standing around listening to other people talk or have fun. I have no problem talking people I know to death about things but approaching people makes me clam up. I’ve never really been on a date with anyone because of my social anxiety (which I’ve been gteting help with professionaly). My main problem I would say is that because I’m so bad at opening up with people initialy by the time I’m comfortable talking to them I’m their good friend which in 23 years has not done anything at all for my love life from either of the sexes. I have little knowledge of how all of this works but I am a fast learner and was really excited when I read the discriptions about Instant Shine, AMMO, and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) as it seems that all of those would help me alot. I don’t have huge amount of money to just buy and try everything all at once initialy so I need advice on what I should try first. I am online at work all day so I can answer questions pretty quick if it would help.

I’ve done some reading around the forums but I still have a few questions. Is there a key difference between Instant Honesty and Instant Openness? Pheromones don’t discriminate so Instant Shine and the others will affect me just as much as others right?

I’m sure I’ll have plenty of more questions when I get more familiar with the site, hopefully I can get some feedback for a good jumpping in point.

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**Author:** ![remmy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/remmy/32/2451_2.png) [@remmy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/remmy)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/2 "2008-12-03T17:28:07Z")

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hi there!

it seems like you did some research and looks like ur good 🙂  
to strike up a conversation, which seems to be ur main concern, id def. go with instant openness and instant honesty. instant openness would increase the quantity of the conversation while instant honesty would give off the whole “best friend” vibe.

also, how about come talk to me 2? that would also be great to use in conjunction with instant openness to improve your conversation skills 🙂

anyways, please ask more questions if u have any!  
\<3

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/3 "2008-12-03T18:02:55Z")

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Hi, welcome to the forum.

The difference between [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty is that with Honesty the conversations will be on a deeper level. Insant Shine, Ammo and Instant Openness (your choices) are all great. Seeing as you’re bi, you might also wish to look into Mystery Boy also.

I know you’ve already been reading through the forum, but make sure to read the sticky threads in the Men’s forum for additional tips.

Good luck here!

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/4 "2008-12-03T21:30:59Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

Looks like you are a fast learner .. lol .. plus Robbie and Remmie certainly gave you the straight scoop. IO is alpha nol heavy and creates a lot of general chatter. IH is beta nol heavy and generates feelings of connection which can lead to deeper conversation - sometimes even from strangers. Of the two IH is my favorite but then again I do not have much trouble talking to strangers.

It looks like you have a good spread of products picked out whether you go with IO or IH. A lot of people overlook the importance of the social products (IO, IH IShine) even in the romance department.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.

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**Author:** ![phaelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ea5d25/32.png) [@phaelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaelo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/5 "2008-12-04T01:20:48Z")

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Thank for all the replys! I think instant openness is locked in for sure. Ammo and [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) also sound like I would like to get those asap aswell! So much to try 😮 Too bad they did not make a togo of Mystery Boy. Anyway, I’m still reading threads deciding 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/6 "2008-12-04T08:09:03Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

I think you did your homework for the most part and you should get basically what you mentioned except I suggest IH over IO .

AMMO Ishine and IH .

The difference between IO and IH

Both are communication mixes but IO is light fun friendly chatty

IH is deeper more connecting and close.

AMMO is sexy attractive confident

Ishine is charismatic upbeat warm.

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> Pheromones don’t discriminate so Instant Shine and the others will affect me just as much as others right?

Just as every mone will not attract every person, they dont have self effects for everyone. They are designed to effect those around you. I would say more then 80% of the users do feel something though so there is a good chance you will.

**Your GC is on its way** 😃

Tisha

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**Author:** ![phaelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ea5d25/32.png) [@phaelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phaelo)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2008, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-pherotalk/23572/7 "2008-12-04T11:50:26Z")

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I was unsure and everything seemed so useful I just ordered 1 of every TOGO except [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) since I could not find it in the TOGO size to try out.

also.. Next day shipping for $5!!!
