# New To The Forum: Questions For Experienced Users

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 24, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346 "2008-06-24T12:31:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/1 "2008-06-24T12:31:20Z")

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Hello all, as you can tell I am new to this forum and to the world of Pheromones. I just wanted to introduce myself briefly and ask some general questions directed at experienced users of Pheromones.

I am a 23 year old straight male. Not to sound conceited but I would say I am a fairly good looking guy, who doesn’t have alot of problems striking conversations with women. I mainly want to try the pheromones for sheer experimentation. I simply put am curious on how they affect women. Also my pheromone order should be coming today includes:

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)  
Alpha A314  
AMMUNITION  
Instant Shine  
Turn Up the Heat (to go)  
Instant Openness

Like I said I am new to the world of pheromones. I did buy a few bottle of Pherlure a while ago but found it was nothing more than a cologne with no other real effect. I heard it can be used as a good cover though.

Now I have read through some of the posts but wanted to ask questions to veteran users, specifically directed to my situations. Questions such as best mixes to use in given situations and dosage of each pheromone in mix and where to put each on what parts of the body. Where to wear certain phermones, such as outdoor and/or indoors. Answers to these questions from experienced users would be greatly appreciated. I have read that every person’s body is different and therefore will emit the pheromones differently. But some instruction is sure to help.

The first situation is tonight actually so any help ASAP would be amazing. I am going to an outdoor park this evening to watch a soccer game. This girl will also be there to watch her brother. Me and this girl have been friends for over 15 years now and dated briefly 6 years ago. We have had a great relationship but lately I haven’t seen her that much because she is in a serious relationship with another guy. A guy by the way who is a real jerk and into drugs and everything else. But anyway I saw her last week and we had a great convo as usual, although brief it was great. I gotta be honest I was in love with this girl and could probably fall for her again given the chance. I don’t really know what I am expecting but I am curious to see how pheromones could affect the situation. So you can see the list above of what I own as well as the Pherlure, although I don’t know what that could add other than maybe a cover. But what do you all think would be a good mix for this situation remember it is outdoors so I don’t know if that means it will wear off faster or I need to apply more at first. Please help guys, thanks alot as I look forward to any input you all can give…

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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/2 "2008-06-24T18:56:30Z")

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Anyone out there that can help with this?

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/3 "2008-06-24T19:03:15Z")

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Your ammo and turn up the heat are both double strenght, so i suggest you only use one spray or 1and1/2 spray of ammo and leave out the turn up the heat for tonight.

one or two a314 drop will be good for a respectable and trustable aura. And 3 sprays of io can balance everything out to make sure there is no negative effects 🙂

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**Author:** ![Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@Daddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daddy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/4 "2008-06-24T19:09:22Z")

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i’m no vet, but i’d go Instant Shine and Instant Openness, maybe throw in some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)…

she’s already known you for more than 15 years, so the “hits” won’t be as obvious or out there as a hit from a stranger, at least I remember reading that somewhere in this forum…

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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/5 "2008-06-24T19:11:40Z")

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thanks for the input so far guys..

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**Author:** ![Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@Daddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daddy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/6 "2008-06-24T19:59:24Z")

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if you use Magic, add a spray of your fave cologne (or Ammo)

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/7 "2008-06-24T20:45:32Z")

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Let me get this straight.

You’ve been friends for 15 years, she’s in a serious relationship with someone you don’t really approve of, and you want to break that relationship apart and insert yourself in his place? Based of what I’ve read so far, I’d say you should reconsider what you’re trying to do.

Regardless of how you judge her current bf, trying to break their relationship up will only reflect badly on you, successful or not. I don’t know you, your friend or her bf, so I’m sure there’s plenty of details I’m not aware of. How he treats her, what drugs (and in what frequency) he takes, etc…

I’m not defending the bf, like I said I don’t know the details. But a guy can do some drugs and still be an responsible person. I know more alcoholics that cause trouble than I do drug users. As for how he’s being a jerk, well again, details.

I know you guys dated previously and that obviously means there’s a degree of intimacy (physical and emotional) between the two of you. But you should also be aware that your relationship ended, and with that, your relationship also changed. Just because it was so once, doesn’t necessarily mean it will be so again. How does she feel about this guy? Girls will often complain about guys and tell their friends that they hate them and that they drive them crazy, etc…but in the end you can’t be playing Captain Save-a-ho.

Is she being emotionally manipulated? Physically abused? Being used for financial benefits? If she’s just angry and something she didn’t like that’s one thing. Abuse, is another matter. If abuse is in the picture, then I wouldn’t be worried about getting together with my friend, I’d worry about getting her _willingly_ to leave the abusive relationship and to protect her if the relationship tries to follow her.

If it isn’t, then you should probably leave her to work out her own shit. To be blunt - unless she invites you into the situation, it’s not your business.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/8 "2008-06-24T21:06:29Z")

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> [@BrockLanders69](#):
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> We have had a great relationship but lately I haven’t seen her that much because she is in a serious relationship with another guy. A guy by the way who is a real jerk and into drugs and everything else. But anyway I saw her last week and we had a great convo as usual, although brief it was great…

With that informaiton right there

I would go with  
IS  
IO  
IFM

and plan on talking with her, don’t try and pull her out of a relationship or start something on the side with her.  
Would you want someone doing that to you?  
If she is coming to you for help that is a different situation, help her once good boy, help her twice I would wonder, Help her three times you are whipped.

The only way you might win her over is with some Raw power or [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). Hey if she is saying she is Tied down, I would not try and untie her all at once.

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**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/9 "2008-06-24T21:30:05Z")

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if you’ve known her for 15 years, she might already be familiar with your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) signature and whatever you wear might throw her off. You may get a ghost effect where she may ignore you or avoid you a little. How much do you hang out with her? spend a lot of time with her?

Going to have to go with what Phya said. I don’t think thats the best way to get back with her.

For what to wear, I would recommend:  
2x A314  
3x Female Magic  
4x Shine  
You’ll probably have to reapply Shine 2 hours after the first app. Like 2 sprays. I would lay off the AMMO or Turn Up The Heat, especially if you’re there to have fun.  
If you haven’t seen her in person for a while, like say a few years, it will be easier to pull off A314. If you’ve seen her fairly regularly over the years she may still be familiar with your signature. If you’re going to wear A314, keep in mind that you’ll have to be congruent to the signature that it gives off. The alpha male, respect feel. The Female magic and shine should help buffer it some.  
Hope that helps.

Oh and like Phya said, not all drug users are douchebag asshole jerks. It just kinda shows the bias that you have toward this bf of hers.

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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/10 "2008-06-24T21:35:31Z")

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> [@Phya](#):
>
> Let me get this straight.
> 
> You’ve been friends for 15 years, she’s in a serious relationship with someone you don’t really approve of, and you want to break that relationship apart and insert yourself in his place? Based of what I’ve read so far, I’d say you should reconsider what you’re trying to do.
> 
> Regardless of how you judge her current bf, trying to break their relationship up will only reflect badly on you, successful or not. I don’t know you, your friend or her bf, so I’m sure there’s plenty of details I’m not aware of. How he treats her, what drugs (and in what frequency) he takes, etc…
> 
> I’m not defending the bf, like I said I don’t know the details. But a guy can do some drugs and still be an responsible person. I know more alcoholics that cause trouble than I do drug users. As for how he’s being a jerk, well again, details.
> 
> I know you guys dated previously and that obviously means there’s a degree of intimacy (physical and emotional) between the two of you. But you should also be aware that your relationship ended, and with that, your relationship also changed. Just because it was so once, doesn’t necessarily mean it will be so again. How does she feel about this guy? Girls will often complain about guys and tell their friends that they hate them and that they drive them crazy, etc…but in the end you can’t be playing Captain Save-a-ho.
> 
> Is she being emotionally manipulated? Physically abused? Being used for financial benefits? If she’s just angry and something she didn’t like that’s one thing. Abuse, is another matter. If abuse is in the picture, then I wouldn’t be worried about getting together with my friend, I’d worry about getting her _willingly_ to leave the abusive relationship and to protect her if the relationship tries to follow her.
> 
> If it isn’t, then you should probably leave her to work out her own shit. To be blunt - unless she invites you into the situation, it’s not your business.

Geeze wow what a response.. Ok to put it simply, I am not trying to break up her relationship what so ever. It’s her life let her fuck it up if she wants to. We are friends and have been for awhile but like I said haven’t really spent much time with eachother past few years because of the other guy. I just want to see how the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) affect her and seeing her, that’s it and that’s all…

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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/11 "2008-06-24T21:37:53Z")

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Again not trying to break them up or be biased and while not all drugies and drunks are assholes, this one certainly is. No bias needed, trust me…

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/12 "2008-06-24T22:34:14Z")

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Like I said, I don’t know all the details, so I’m not making any judgments one way or another for any party involved.

But when you say

> [@BrockLanders69](#):
>
> I gotta be honest I was in love with this girl and could probably fall for her again given the chance. I don’t really know what I am expecting but I am curious to see how pheromones could affect the situation…But what do you all think would be a good mix for this situation remember it is outdoors so I don’t know if that means it will wear off faster or I need to apply more at first. Please help guys, thanks alot as I look forward to any input you all can give…

It doesn’t sound like you just want to see how pheromones effect her. It sounds like you have greater hopes than just trying out pheromones. You say you were in love with her and could probably fall for her again. It almost sounds like you’re wanting to set yourself up for disaster.

You acknowledge that she’s in a relationship and that you wouldn’t want to break it up, but originally it sounded like you were hoping that with the pheromones she might find you more attractive and want to start dating you again. Pardon me if I sound harsh and I misunderstood your original post, but I’m just calling it like I see it.

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**Author:** ![BrockLanders69](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@BrockLanders69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BrockLanders69)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-forum-questions-for-experienced-users/14346/13 "2008-06-25T03:20:21Z")

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You did misunderstand but that’s ok I am at fault to for not making it that clear. Either way thanks for the input.
