# New to the Pheromone Game **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 29, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255 "2010-12-29T19:32:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/1 "2010-12-29T19:32:56Z")
What’s up guys? I’m a 24 year old male from the Charlotte, NC area. I got referred over to this forum by a friend who let me try pheromones one night… At first I was a little skeptical, but after that night. No way! This stuff works. I was hoping to get some advice on the best products to use for going out. He said we may have used [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), but he couldn’t remember. I’m a pretty chill guy…more introvert, than extrovert… sometimes chicks are apprehensive to approach me, even if they seem interested. My natural pheromones are not helping me out at the moment. haha. I’m hoping to get the right pheromone that will help breach that initial barrier, and whatever will give me that extra edge. Right now I’m debating between IO and TUTH. Any suggestions? experiences? Anything would be greatly appreciated. thanks, John ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/2 "2010-12-29T19:52:46Z")
If you wear IO near your face, you might get self effects, and start talking to people more. TUTH as a stand-alone daytime product is a no no. ---
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/3 "2010-12-29T19:56:42Z")
> [@YourDreamsStayBig](#): > > If you wear IO near your face, you might get self effects, and start talking to people more. TUTH as a stand-alone daytime product is a no no. Thanks for the heads up. What is your experience with TUTH? Do the women approach you more often/are they more receptive to subtle cues? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/4 "2010-12-29T19:57:13Z")
Well, go with IO… Simply put, I know that all people are thinking, “man, instant sex? get me that!” This is only the case with tuth once the girl is comfortable enough to be with you in that manner. Chicks won’t approach you. I have a feeling you’re in for the axe effect. What kind of realistic goal would you like to set for yourself? If you give some detail like that we can definitely give you a better recommendation. I’ll base off an assumption right now, but I’d say ammo is the product you’re looking for. Most importantly, is that you must take action. Women expect men to take the initiative so that is exactly what you have to do. ---
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/5 "2010-12-29T20:05:28Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Well, go with IO… > > Simply put, I know that all people are thinking, “man, instant sex? get me that!” This is only the case with tuth once the girl is comfortable enough to be with you in that manner. > > Chicks won’t approach you. I have a feeling you’re in for the axe effect. What kind of realistic goal would you like to set for yourself? If you give some detail like that we can definitely give you a better recommendation. I’ll base off an assumption right now, but I’d say ammo is the product you’re looking for. > > Most importantly, is that you must take action. Women expect men to take the initiative so that is exactly what you have to do. Nah, I’m not looking for the Axe effect at all. I’m pretty realistic and understand that there’s nothing “magical” about this stuff. Normally, I have to have some sort of in to talk to the chicks, and maintain the vibe. However, the one time I used the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), they were ridiculously more open, and I did nothing to even provoke the conversation. They basically approached me. It just generally made the interaction much “smoother”. What I’m looking for is something will create the initial “in” and from there I’ve got it… Something that will make them more comfortable with me. ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/6 "2010-12-29T20:12:11Z")
You have to create that initial in, and the pheromones will help influence the interaction. I’m not quite sure I completely understand what you’re looking for. If you say the one time you used pheromones that this one result came from it, then I’ll have to say try not to expect the same results. Pheromones have different effects on different people who apply them (me vs you) and consequentially affect those around us differently. Ammo and instant shine, as well as instant openness will make people more receptive to you. In my testing, I never really had people approach me (or at least, not the people I wanted to approach me). Pheromones will make interactions much smoother, but please do not hold the expectation that each time they will approach you. Please help me understand what you’re looking for, more so. And do come by the mens forum and post more questions there. Myself and others will gladly do our bests to help you out. ---
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/7 "2010-12-29T20:21:03Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Please help me understand what you’re looking for, more so. And do come by the mens forum and post more questions there. Myself and others will gladly do our bests to help you out. Hmmm. I guess I’m not exactly sure, because I’m new to pheromones. Generally just a game enhancer. A pheromone that will put the ladies I approach at ease, and receptive, while also evoking a subtle sexual energy. Does that help? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/8 "2010-12-29T20:29:34Z")
Definitely does. In terms of pheromones, they give off specific vibes. For example: [female pheromones](https://phera.com/) would be easy to describe for right now. IS/a and IS/b are two female pheromones in the instant line this company offers, meaning that they have been tested and will do pretty much what they say they will (assuming there is enough social competence, i guess haha). IS/a gives off a strong vixen women type vibe, where as is/b gives off a sex kittenish type vibe. What’s that mean for men’s instant line? Well… ammo = sexy vibe IO = approachable guy IS = confident fun guy IH = trusting guy IG = mature vibe and so on. You can mix these so when I suggested ammo, IS and IO, you can have any of the combination’s from above. ammo + is = sexy fun guy ammo + IO = sexy approachable guy all three = sexy fun approachable guy and so on. But remember, you know how you walk into a room and you sense a certain feeling or vibe out of someone? People will feel the same out of you, so be sure to be congruent, and match those vibes that the pheromones give off. Anyway, hope this gives you a better idea. Don’t forget to use the search engine as when you actively try to learn, you will have a better understanding of what these little things exactly do. ---
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/9 "2010-12-29T20:35:34Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Anyway, hope this gives you a better idea. Don’t forget to use the search engine as when you actively try to learn, you will have a better understanding of what these little things exactly do. Thanks man…very helpful info. I’ll post some experiences up once I get the pheromones. Is androticsdirect the best place to get them? or are there any stores that sell them? ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/10 "2010-12-29T20:38:56Z")
I only buy from this company. Check out their return policy, with something like that IMO it’s practically risk free to me. Other [pheromone](https://a314.com/) companies don’t have a support forum as far as I understand so this company really tries to make solid products. ---
**Author:** ![r2d2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@r2d2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/r2d2)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/11 "2010-12-29T20:51:45Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > I only buy from this company. Check out their return policy, with something like that IMO it’s practically risk free to me. Other pheromone companies don’t have a support forum as far as I understand so this company really tries to make solid products. Sounds good. Based on my one experience from here, I think I can safely trust it. Glad to be a part of such a helpful community. ---
**Author:** ![jackslater](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jackslater/32/1476_2.png) [@jackslater](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackslater)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/12 "2010-12-29T23:02:36Z")
Fo’ real? ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-pheromone-game/44255/13 "2010-12-30T20:51:41Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk R2d2! You got some really good advice. I am sure your natural pheromones are doing a good job you just don’t notice or haven’t got the skill or enough knowledge to take advantage of the situation. That is another thing that mones do is make you more aware of others around you and even yourself and then you start to progress and grow. Our suggestions I believe especially from the team since they have actual experience with the men mones are on point and of course, we encourage you to read and do your own research before you decide what to purchase. Have fun with these. Your gc was issued!