# New to the site and phermones **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 18, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188 "2006-12-18T03:22:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/1 "2006-12-18T03:22:12Z")
Hello everyone! I used the link through [basenotes.net](http://basenotes.net) and was curious to see as if its real or not. Seems like it is after reading some of the posts on the forum. A little about me. Recently turned 22 and my last year in college in beautiful Southern California. I’m a hispanic male, 5’11", handsome hehe. I enjoy going out to bars and clubs to interact and meet other people, but the problem is that I am very picky and selective. I’ll find many girls at the club attractive, but I won’t go talk to them 90% of the time because I have high standards and prefer to be in a relationship with someone who is worth it. I dont know what else everyone needs to know to determine what I need to do. Obviously, great newbie advice is appreciated and feel free to ask questions to help me determine what I have to do with this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) “journey”. ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/2 "2006-12-18T03:35:17Z")
Hey, Hows it going IcyBlue1203? ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/3 "2006-12-18T03:37:07Z")
hmmm. the picky type eh? looking for a long term relationship? Reminds me of myself. Well if you want a long term relationship, i suggest you get A314. Seems like you have the other bases covered. Maybe a little TUTH to get her interested and some CTTM2 to start a good convo. Add some IH and you have a good deep convo with a high class woman searching for a man. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/4 "2006-12-18T03:46:20Z")
Is it really a problem that you’re so selective? One thing to consider is whether bars and clubs are the best place to meet the type of woman you’re most interested in. Is beauty the sole criteria, or is it a combination of things? What venues will best allow you to evaluate a potential partner against those criteria? Bars are not the best showcase for many women … in fact, if bars are your hunting ground there are many incredible women you will never meet! If, however, you want to relax a little, enjoy meeting people and socializing more, bringing out the best in all of you, and allow yourself you to see people in a more positive light, I recommend Instant Shine first of all, and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). The Liquid Sunshine series of experimental mixes also has this effect, and it’s quite enjoyable. Have fun exploring! ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/5 "2006-12-18T03:52:54Z")
> [@BlazingAzn88](#): > > hmmm. the picky type eh? looking for a long term relationship? Reminds me of myself. Well if you want a long term relationship, i suggest you get A314. Seems like you have the other bases covered. Maybe a little Turn Up The Heat to get her interested and some Come Talk To Me Mix 2 to start a good convo. Add some Instant Honesty and you have a good deep convo with a high class woman searching for a man. Good luck Well this is what I say now given my current situation. The guys I hang out with prefer to be single because they have the liberty to do whatever they wish with any girl. Me on the other hand would rather have a steady girlfriend for both the physical and romantic reasons. When I go to a bar or a club with one of my buddies, if he gets attention from almost anyone, he will act upon it and talk to her aiming for that one night stand. Me on the other hand, I’m extremly picky in the looks department. I’m not hot stuff myself, but it’s just something i’ve etched in my brain telling myself, oh shes not good enough for gf material. So unless she catches my attention right off the bat, I wont act upon it, even though these girls are very cute too. ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/6 "2006-12-18T03:58:20Z")
I know exactly what you mean. I am very picky myself. I look for both looks and brains. Its really rare and many women with brains usually dont hang out at bars as Carrie said. Why dont you try malls or restaurants as well. Sometimes what your looking for smacks you in the face, but you miss it. Ive done that once. I regret it. ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/7 "2006-12-18T04:02:23Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > Is it really a problem that you’re so selective? One thing to consider is whether bars and clubs are the best place to meet the type of woman you’re most interested in. Is beauty the sole criteria, or is it a combination of things? What venues will best allow you to evaluate a potential partner against those criteria? Bars are not the best showcase for many women … in fact, if bars are your hunting ground there are many incredible women you will never meet! > > If, however, you want to relax a little, enjoy meeting people and socializing more, bringing out the best in all of you, and allow yourself you to see people in a more positive light, I recommend Instant Shine first of all, and Instant Openness. The Liquid Sunshine series of experimental mixes also has this effect, and it’s quite enjoyable. Have fun exploring! Being so selective is somewhat of a problem. Beauty is my main criteria to begin with, and then once I begin talking to them, it is their personality that makes it or breaks it. I’m 22 and living in Los Angeles does not really help much either. People always say you wont meet a good girl in a club or bar, but I cant agree since I consider myself a good guy and visit the same spots with the intention of meeting someone. Is there something that works specifically for women in the 18-25 range? It be fun to try out different types of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) for different occasions. For example, what can I wear everyday at school to help with the hottie in class or at work while walking the streets downtown? What about something for the club, bar, etc? Is there different ones for help with long-term relationships or one-night stands? I read somewhere on the forum about some stuff being for higher or lower status women? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/8 "2006-12-18T04:14:48Z")
I know that I can recommend [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to you … but I will be trying out the Liquid Sunshine soon, I hope … and the Liquid Sunshine might actually be a better way to start – attract, and make comfortable at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/9 "2006-12-18T04:35:16Z")
One question, how do you mix with cologne? Do you just put some cologne on top of it? Do only certain colognes work properly? ---
**Author:** ![BlazingAzn88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/49beb7/32.png) [@BlazingAzn88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlazingAzn88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/10 "2006-12-18T04:46:49Z")
Yea, thats also what i was wondering. When applying a coverscent, is it safe for the pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/11 "2006-12-18T05:00:28Z")
Guys, we were just talking about this on the women’s board. Yes, you can wear other fragrance with the pheromones: > [@Use pheromones with perfume or without?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/use-pheromones-with-perfume-or-without/1178): > > confused Ladies, I wanted to get your opinion on this: is it better to use a fragrance over your pheremones or to use them alone? Also, when combining pheremones, do you wait for them to dry completely before applying another layer on top? Does the perfume act as a diffuser? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/12 "2006-12-18T05:07:13Z")
> [@ICYBLUE1203](#): > > Being so selective is somewhat of a problem. Beauty is my main criteria to begin with, and then once I begin talking to them, it is their personality that makes it or breaks it. I’m 22 and living in Los Angeles does not really help much either. People always say you wont meet a good girl in a club or bar, but I cant agree since I consider myself a good guy and visit the same spots with the intention of meeting someone. Is there something that works specifically for women in the 18-25 range? It be fun to try out different types of pheromones for different occasions. For example, what can I wear everyday at school to help with the hottie in class or at work while walking the streets downtown? What about something for the club, bar, etc? Is there different ones for help with long-term relationships or one-night stands? I read somewhere on the forum about some stuff being for higher or lower status women? For younger women, in general you might want to avoid or go light on androstenone, and use more 'nol. But if they’re drinking, young women may tolerate more 'none than usual. There’s a thread in the men’s forum called “Product 'nones and 'nols” that classifies Androtics products by their identified primary components (when I try to link to it I get all kinds of weirdness, sorry!) For attracting higher status women for a relationship and not a one-night-stand, A314 is an excellent product. It’s also excellent for work and situations where you want to be taken seriously and maybe perceived as more mature; not so much (for a young guy anyway) for bars and clubs and light socializing. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/13 "2006-12-18T06:26:02Z")
> [@ICYBLUE1203](#): > > Being so selective is somewhat of a problem. Beauty is my main criteria to begin with, and then once I begin talking to them, it is their personality that makes it or breaks it. I’m 22 and l **iving in Los Angeles** does not really help much either. I’d agree that LA isn’t quite the best place to find a gaggle of high quality, intelligent women. They’re definitely around, but not in as much abundance as outsiders might think. That said, I’ve got good news for you… and it has EVERYTHING where you live… We are currently training our customers _for free,_ _in person_, right on the Sunset Strip. 1 to 1. Personal attention, likely from Jasmin. Neil Strauss, the most famous pickup artist in the world, even tried to “sarge” Jasmin recently… so this is truly a great opportunity for you. Read about it here: > [@Free pivot (female wingman): LA Area](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837): > > I’m going to make myself available as a pivot (a female “wingman” who helps you scope out chickadees) and for product testing in the LA area, ala The Game. Just pay my way into wherever you want to go, and maybe buy me a drink or something, and both me and our catalog of mixes is yours. I’m a mommy, so I’m available for an hour or so at a time, but it would be a lot of fun! In fact, I can guar-on-tee you’ll have a blast!! If you’re interested, just post here or send me a PM, and we’ll chat ab… > [@](#): > > People always say you wont meet a good girl in a club or bar, but I cant agree since I consider myself a good guy and visit the same spots with the intention of meeting someone. The “home field” advantage is good (i.e., being familiar with where you go), but if those spots aren’t working, you should really try others. Where have you been going so far? > [@](#): > > Is there something that works specifically for women in the 18-25 range? Yes… the light and fun pheromones. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) Instant Shine Sex isn’t a biological necessity at that age. It’s optional and done for enjoyment only. First and foremost, most women in that age range want a man they be comfortable around and have fun with… and yes, when their hormones surge, make crazy monkey love with. But it’s not the #1 biological priority at that time. The really hot & heavy sex pheromones tend to work best with women over 30, who have their biological clocks ticking. (i.e., only so many eggs left, only so much time) > [@](#): > > It be fun to try out different types of pheromones for different occasions. For example, what can I wear everyday at school to help with the hottie in class or at work while walking the streets downtown? What about something for the club, bar, etc? Bars and clubs, you’re more likely to find hormonally fueled women. Most women, in fact, don’t like to hang out in bars and clubs. When they ovulate, however, they’re driven to fill their biological needs. When a women is ovulating, it doesn’t matter how old they are… they WILL tend to respond positively to the heavier sex pheromones. That 1 day a month (actually, about 20 hours on average) can be magic for these products. In a bar or club, you can often use Turn Up The Heat or Ammunition Cologne to good affect. They contain androstenone, which women respond best to when they’re “in heat”, or when they’re older… over 30, especially over 35. > [@](#): > > Is there different ones for help with long-term relationships or one-night stands? I read somewhere on the forum about some stuff being for higher or lower status women? A314 is for higher status women, who would be great for an LTR. Low status or mentally unstable women don’t seem to really like A314, so it can act almost as shield in a sense. Be aware that if you use A314, you will be treated with high status. Few people will approach people with high status for anything, instead admiring them from afar. However, most people will be more than happy to interact with you when YOU approach them, or ask them to do something for you. They’ll feel luck you talked with them. For your age range, however, I’d recommend the lighter, brighter, “fun” type pheromones. Instant Openness and Instant Shine. Maybe the Liquid Sunshine test pack (which are inspired by Instant Shine). Since you seem interested in so many different effects, you might want to pick up a slew of To Go size products. Those will allow you to try many different pheromones at low cost. You can also use them realtime, in the middle of a social event. That enables you to better see what social effects they are creating. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 6:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/14 "2006-12-18T06:31:16Z")
Also check out this topic: > [@Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832): > > Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game? We were thinking something like this: Attraction: IO or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of TUTH The IO or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath o… ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/15 "2006-12-18T06:38:07Z")
Well, I know some places where we can find good girls…😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/16 "2006-12-18T07:42:54Z")
Hi there, Icyblue1203! Welcome to the forum 🙂 Your gift certificate has been sent. Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 8:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/17 "2006-12-18T08:04:29Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > Well, I know some places where we can find good girls…😉 Hahaha let me know… ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/18 "2006-12-18T08:05:02Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Hi there, Icyblue1203! > > Welcome to the forum 🙂 Your gift certificate has been sent. Enjoy! Thank you very much, and love the avatar pic 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/19 "2006-12-18T08:21:32Z")
> [@ICYBLUE1203](#): > > Hahaha let me know… Churches and libraries…😛 ---
**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2006, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188/20 "2006-12-18T08:50:27Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d agree that LA isn’t quite the best place to find a gaggle of high quality, intelligent women. They’re definitely around, but not in as much abundance as outsiders might think. > > That said, I’ve got good news for you… and it has EVERYTHING where you live… We are currently training our customers _for free,_ _in person_, right on the Sunset Strip. 1 to 1. Personal attention, likely from Jasmin. > > Neil Strauss, the most famous pickup artist in the world, even tried to “sarge” Jasmin recently… so this is truly a great opportunity for you. I PM’ed her so let’s see what happens. > [@](#): > > The “home field” advantage is good (i.e., being familiar with where you go), but if those spots aren’t working, you should really try others. > > Where have you been going so far? Well to be honest, I’ve been to different places, I’ve noticed that it maybe is me who has the problem with the pickyness, and those who score high in my books are usually out of my league or conceited. > [@](#): > > Yes… the light and fun pheromones. > > Instant Openness > Instant Shine > > Sex isn’t a biological necessity at that age. It’s optional and done for enjoyment only. I guess I can wear this everyday, and maybe add the Turn Up The Heat when I go out? > [@](#): > > First and foremost, most women in that age range want a man they be comfortable around and have fun with… and yes, when their hormones surge, make crazy monkey love with. But it’s not the #1 biological priority at that time. The really hot & heavy sex pheromones tend to work best with women over 30, who have their biological clocks ticking. (i.e., only so many eggs left, only so much time) Hahaha, I wouldnt mind having a good-looking sugar momma. I should search Hollywood for one of these cougars hahaha. > [@](#): > > A314 is for higher status women, who would be great for an LTR. Low status or mentally unstable women don’t seem to really like A314, so it can act almost as shield in a sense. > > Be aware that if you use A314, you will be treated with high status. Few people will approach people with high status for anything, instead admiring them from afar. However, most people will be more than happy to interact with you when YOU approach them, or ask them to do something for you. They’ll feel luck you talked with them. Can you describe high status for me? Appropiate for someone like me? I am 22 but sadly look 25-28 lol. Thanks for your time, I appreciate all the advice you’re giving me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-site-and-phermones/1188.md?page=2)