# New to the world of pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 4, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412 "2007-01-04T02:16:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/1 "2007-01-04T02:16:44Z")
I’m totally new to the world of pheromones and for a while, I’ve been a skeptic. After doing some reseach I’ve decided to give it a try. I have a few questions and I hope to not be too much of a bother. 1.) Does instant gentleman not work, or is there some other reason that it isn’t popular. I don’t see it much on the forums. 2.) What are the effects of combining instant gentleman and instant openness? And about how much of each do I have to use. My goal is to be more approachable becasue many people say that I’m “cold” and “too stern” with my projected appearance, therefore making me too difficult to talk to in a sense. 3.) If someone has better suggestions for using different products to be more approachable, please let me know, I’d be greatly appreciative. I just thought [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and Instant Opennes would be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![Muse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muse/32/2388_2.png) [@Muse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Muse)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/2 "2007-01-04T03:02:15Z")
> [@MadCowz57856](#): > > I’m totally new to the world of pheromones and for a while, I’ve been a skeptic. After doing some reseach I’ve decided to give it a try. I have a few questions and I hope to not be too much of a bother. > > 1.) Does instant gentleman not work, or is there some other reason that it isn’t popular. I don’t see it much on the forums. > > 2.) What are the effects of combining instant gentleman and instant openness? And about how much of each do I have to use. My goal is to be more approachable becasue many people say that I’m “cold” and “too stern” with my projected appearance, therefore making me too difficult to talk to in a sense. > > 3.) If someone has better suggestions for using different products to be more approachable, please let me know, I’d be greatly appreciative. I just thought Instant Gentleman and Instant Opennes would be a good idea. Welcome MadCow! I do not know about instant gentleman, but instant openness is a good choice to make you more approachable. with instant openness, i’ve experience lots of chatter, it seems to draw people to want to talk to you! Additionally, theresis lots of buzz on instant shine. this products gives you more of an aura and mskes you seem “youthful and fun.” It seems to me like you should stay away from products like A314, which gives you more ofan “alpha-male” aura. I am kind of new, but because I am always searching and reading forums, this is what i’ve learned, and through my own experience with instant openness, and instant shine, i can personally attest to them working. however, with instant openness, in the beginning, i was pretty “OPEN” with my mouth too. keep in mind that the pheremones will require you gettting used to the effects and will effect you also. Hope this helps and welcome. BTW, you should read throught the threads because you will find a lot of answers to your questions! Muse ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/3 "2007-01-04T03:46:35Z")
Part of the deal with [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is that some of us are already “looking older” so to speak… (we are already “gentlemen” in the age sense…) That is one reason I haven’t tried it. I’m suprised some of the younger users haven’t given it a shot. Perhaps this product needs to be added to the To Go sized line to get it out there for more field testing. (hint) ---
**Author:** ![panchromatic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/panchromatic/32/2192_2.png) [@panchromatic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/panchromatic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/4 "2007-01-05T01:56:56Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > I’m suprised some of the younger users haven’t given it a shot. And I wonder if the concept of _Gentleman_ may seem a litle staid or old-fashionned? There are many fine connotations to the word as well, of course, composure, maturity, consideration, etc., but then none of them is exactly sexy or powerful or fun, per se. I personally have the sense that a Gentleman is the guy who gets stuck holding the door for for happy couples as they go into the movies, for example. Sort of a good-natured, asexual guy. Is that just my screwed-up perspective? I ask, because I have always acted very much the gentleman. And it has gotten me respect and friendship at times, but it hasn’t gotten me any dates… Who is the formula intended for, and what are the plus-sides that some of us may be missing? ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/5 "2007-01-05T02:05:11Z")
Actually I’m not sure exactly what [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is aimed at, as I haven’t seen any field reports here on it yet. I understand it;s supposed to give one an air of “sophisticated maturity.” a314 gives a “leadership” air. I suspect IG is best used in conjuction with other products (TUTH?). Maybe it needs to be a freebie “test” sample some day to get it out there. (hint) ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/6 "2007-01-05T02:13:43Z")
My imagination runs to a story like this: _Raoul is a sax player who lives jazz as a lifestyle but doesn’t work steadily – otherwise very attractive in a raffish kind of way. He uses a spray or two of Instant Gentlemen to balance the sense of unpredictablility of his music and the unusual rhythms of his income to project a more stable image._ ---
**Author:** ![panchromatic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/panchromatic/32/2192_2.png) [@panchromatic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/panchromatic)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/7 "2007-01-05T02:55:12Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > My imagination runs to a story like this: > > _Raoul is a sax player who lives jazz as a lifestyle but doesn’t work steadily – otherwise very attractive in a raffish kind of way. He uses a spray or two of Instant Gentlemen to balance the sense of unpredictablility of his music and the unusual rhythms of his income to project a more stable image._ Hehe that’s a good one, MarkL 🙂 I was thinking too, how it might be good for guys who had so much -none (either natural or artificial) that they give off the scary or aggressive vibe. Maybe the Gentleman would temper some of those effects, lending an air of reserved power… Sound reasonable? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/8 "2007-01-05T03:20:40Z")
> [@panchromatic](#): > > Hehe that’s a good one, MarkL 🙂 I was thinking too, how it might be good for guys who had so much -none (either natural or artificial) that they give off the scary or aggressive vibe. Maybe the Gentleman would temper some of those effects, lending an air of reserved power… Sound reasonable? YES!😃 … ---
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/9 "2007-01-06T02:11:56Z")
Well, here’s the skinny of my first day… Nothing out of the ordinary. I used 2 sprays of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and 2 of Instant Openness and nothing happened…other than the fact that it smelled like cologne. Perhaps I need to use more? But I saw no change in anyone. I put one spray of each on my wrists, one spray of Instant Openness on my chest, and one spray of Instant Gentleman on my neck and nothing seemed different. Am I doing something wrong?😕 ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/10 "2007-01-06T02:15:20Z")
How now? Let’s have some details of what you noticed vs what you did not notice. Where did you go, what did you do? ---
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/11 "2007-01-06T02:41:25Z")
Alright, I woke up and got ready for school as usual. I put on the pheromones and well, nothing happened. If anything, and this may or may not be true, I felt a little “buzzed” myself from the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) I would assume. Other than that, nothing happend. Everyone around me acted the same and I saw NO change. All I can say is it was like wearing regular cologne. I think I didn’t wear enough, or I didn’t put it on the right places. I put some IO on my wrists and chest and some IG on my wrists and neck. So I’m really at a loss. As stated earlier, I only used 2 sprays of each, but I thought that’d be enough for a piloting day. Maybe I should OD to see what happens…but if I do that, I’d be like one of those people who bathe in cologne/perfume…you know, that type that you can SMELL down the hallway before you actually see them. At this point, because it was my first day of using pheros I didn’t know what to expect. Perhaps someone has some advice for me? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/12 "2007-01-06T07:49:41Z")
I’m imagining being at school … and some situations/scenarios where “easy” levels of alpha -nol is less likely to produce a noticeable result: - walking down a corridor to class - sitting in class during lecture / quiz / exam - in any situation where there is a strong behavioral set or expectation, e.g., during IM competitive sport and are more likely when people are in unstructured situations and are together for a while: - sitting together in dining hall / cafeteria - in commons, relaxing - shooting baskets - a dorm party In other words, I think that you’d get more noticeable results when people are together for a while in a minimally structured situation. I’d suggest trying to include those more open/free situations in your agenda and being extra vigilant for behaviors in those situations. And to note what YOU do in those situations – you might not notice any changes unless you actively reach out to people to socialize. Do you shake hands, say hello, introduce yourself? If one or two sprays don’t work today, go with the same levels for one or two more days. Then try more, try less … but give each application level a couple/few days test. I’m wondering how you felt today? Up and ready to glow and have fun, or more distant and intellectually curious? ---
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/13 "2007-01-06T11:34:23Z")
Well, I personally felt a little more bubbly than usual, but other than that, not too much happened. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/14 "2007-01-06T15:57:23Z")
> [@MadCowz57856](#): > > Well, I personally felt a little more bubbly than usual, but other than that, not too much happened. If you were the only person who was around the pheros for more than a while … I use SPACELAND, which is almost all alpha -nol. (Instant Openness is alpha -nol (90%? 70%?) tempered with some beta -nol.) The first reaction I see to SPACELAND is often a DIHL moment – people want some private time to process what they are sniffing. (Others reports giggling / spacing out. I am curious to know what those who sniff a -nol have as a conscious thought process at that time – because I think the response is purely non-conscious.) Then, after ten or fifteen minutes, some of the behavioral developments I’ve seen: - group singing with outrageous / salacious lyrics - manic, Robin-Williams-style commentary on other patrons of the club - sudden “bloom” of conversational chatter (as in a flock of quiet birds suddenly beginning to chirp.) My point in telling you this is: alpha -nol seems to take a little while to work on a person. If you’re not around them after the initial exposure, you might easily miss the resulting behavior shift; you might also miss it if you stop looking after the first 45 seconds. So find a place to hang out, fella! And take your mental notes over time, not just first meetings / impressions. As far as [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) – I cannot help you there, I don’t know of it personally, and I hardly know anything about it. You could easily be **the** forum expert on IG in a few days with some experience since I don’t see many others commenting on it here… ---
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/15 "2007-01-07T00:36:20Z")
The store says when some people used IG and Instant Openness it gave people the people around them the “warm fuzzies” so I think you need to use more IO than [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). I’ll definatly post my experiance with IG when I get definitave results. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/16 "2007-01-07T01:25:56Z")
Keep experimenting. It’ll take a while to get a feel of how to really use [pheromones](https://a314.com/). Keep trying different things and note the results as they are for you…not just what other people recommend. The more you experiment, the more profficient you’ll grow with them. ---
**Author:** ![MadCowz57856](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@MadCowz57856](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadCowz57856)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 1:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/1412/17 "2007-01-07T13:20:44Z")
Well, I’m going to try my best to find some results with IG especially becasue there isn’t much on the forums about it hehe 😛.