# new to the world of pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 11, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987 "2013-09-11T11:30:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/1 "2013-09-11T11:30:19Z")
Hi, So what can I say about myself…I am eastern European living in North America. I don’t really have any problems with communication, even though I tend to be shy in unfamiliar situation…until I get that situation very familiar 😃 Good looking, quite smart 😛 (have 2 degrees to prove it) I already ordered all the Instant line, except for ISa… I guess my main “problem” is that most of my male friends and co-workers tend to think that I am intimidating, as I can be harsh sometimes. Even though I tend to call it “no sugar coating, just straight to the point” So far I did not notice any “softening” of my personality with IShine and IOpeness… Any ideas? Suggestions? PS. and of course, it would be nice to get a gift certificate for my next order. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/2 "2013-09-12T06:04:07Z")
Hmm, So nobody can say anything? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/3 "2013-09-12T07:14:18Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Hmm, > So nobody can say anything? ☹ Hi GinGer, and welcome to PheroTalk! It’s good to have you aboard. If your main purposes are to soften your personality, I would suggest getting onboard with the IS/B line. I don’t have any direct experience with it, I’ll be honest, but my wife is about to get some and test it with me along with IS/A (which I notice you didn’t get) It’s interesting that you did not experience a softening of your personality with IS and IO, most of the time that would be the go-to of choice for softening an intimidating personality. Have you tried combining IS/B with Shine and seeing how that works out for you? ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/4 "2013-09-12T14:32:28Z")
Welcome Ginger, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) a chance. Your gc was issued! ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/5 "2013-09-12T17:40:25Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Hmm, > So nobody can say anything? ☹ AD’s site has been screwed up for about a month. If your post was pushed to page 2 then people can no longer see it/respond to it barring an administrator. Sorry, that you were passed by. Do try IS/B though. I personally find IO and IG soften me (I’m guessing IG would NOT soften a woman, but you never know). Shine, doesn’t really soften me, just makes others feel good. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/7 "2013-09-13T08:35:07Z")
Thank you for your replies 🙂 Wyatt, it makes me feel better now knowing it is not just me, but a website itself lol I started wondering if I am being harsh here too… I am just doubting that IG will make me appear softer, as it says it projects a masculine warmth…and I am not sure I want to seem older 😃 Staggerlee, IO made me more chatty, so I was wondering if that might be just a self effect? I will try ISb over the weekend, as I don’t think it is appropriate for the work environment. PS. can some one please help me to understand how to insert the quotes in the replies? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/8 "2013-09-13T09:47:17Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Staggerlee, IO made me more chatty, so I was wondering if that might be just a self effect? > > I will try ISb over the weekend, as I don’t think it is appropriate for the work environment. IO, if you wear it too close to your face, yes, you can get the self-effects off that as well, which I don’t tend to like for myself, I get all blabby. I tend to wear it far away from my face, usually around my wrist area, so I can use my expressive Italian gestures when talking to people, moving my hands when I talk, etc, to get the cloud in their faces. I’ve actually heard that IS/b can work well in the office, and my wife is actually going to be doing some testing at work with IS/A and IS/B as soon as she can. Her name is lizincharge she’s on this board. Maybe take a look at her journal when she’s able to do the testing, should be sometime this next week or so. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/9 "2013-09-13T10:40:06Z")
> [@Staggerlee](#): > > IO, if you wear it too close to your face, yes, you can get the self-effects off that as well, which I don’t tend to like for myself, I get all blabby. I tend to wear it far away from my face, usually around my wrist area, so I can use my expressive Italian gestures when talking to people, moving my hands when I talk, etc, to get the cloud in their faces. That is an interesting observation. I put IO on my wrists as well, but as I tend to play with my hair all the time, I guess that I inhaled too much of IO myself. Do you know anything about straight TAA? As per my understanding this is the main component in IS? I actually not impressed with the smell of Instant line, way to alcoholic-y for my taste. > [@Staggerlee](#): > > I’ve actually heard that IS/b can work well in the office, and my wife is actually going to be doing some testing at work with IS/A and IS/B as soon as she can. Her name is lizincharge she’s on this board. Maybe take a look at her journal when she’s able to do the testing, should be sometime this next week or so. I will check it out, thank you for your help. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/10 "2013-09-13T10:52:09Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > That is an interesting observation. I put IO on my wrists as well, but as I tend to play with my hair all the time, I guess that I inhaled too much of IO myself. > Do you know anything about straight TAA? As per my understanding this is the main component in IS? > I actually not impressed with the smell of Instant line, way to alcoholic-y for my taste. IO is fun when others are under the influence of it, but I don’t like having it affect me. I tend to ruin my game by talking too much on it. haha! When others are affected by it though, it breaks ice like a nuclear-powered Russian icebreaker in the Antarctic on a cold winters day. I love the effects of Shine both on myself and on others. It’s one of my favorite effects after P83 / [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). I agree with you though, just applied, it smells really strong. My advice is to just spray and endure it for about 15 minutes so it has a chance to dry off and start diffusion. The effects are well-worth the initial strong alcohol smell. ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/11 "2013-09-13T10:55:46Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > That is an interesting observation. I put IO on my wrists as well, but as I tend to play with my hair all the time, I guess that I inhaled too much of IO myself. > Do you know anything about straight TAA? As per my understanding this is the main component in IS? > I actually not impressed with the smell of Instant line, way to alcoholic-y for my taste. IO is fun when others are under the influence of it, but I don’t like having it affect me. I tend to ruin my game by talking too much on it. haha! When others are affected by it though, it breaks ice like a nuclear-powered Russian icebreaker in the Antarctic on a cold winters day. I love the effects of Shine both on myself and on others. It’s one of my favorite effects after P83 / Ammo. I agree with you though, just applied, it smells really strong. Unfortunately, I haven’t experimented with TAA yet, so I don’t have a lot for you there. My advice is to just spray the IS and endure it for about 15 minutes so it has a chance to dry off and start diffusion. The effects are well-worth the initial strong alcohol smell. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/12 "2013-09-13T13:38:58Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > That is an interesting observation. I put IO on my wrists as well, but as I tend to play with my hair all the time, I guess that I inhaled too much of IO myself. > Do you know anything about straight TAA? As per my understanding this is the main component in IS? > I actually not impressed with the smell of Instant line, way to alcoholic-y for my taste. > I will check it out, thank you for your help. The 30 mL spray of TAA is not so expensive. You can get more fragrance (female) choices. TAA lasts only an hour or two, vs. 2-4 hours for Shine. The Shine fragrance package was made that way because TAA has limitations on its own. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/13 "2013-09-17T10:36:48Z")
Hi Just a quick update. I am not sure if this is possible, but I got some sort of allergic reaction to ISb. I sprayed 4x (one on each wrist and on my neck from each side), and then used IS on my hair, about 2x. After about 20 mins, my throat stared “closing” - it was all swollen. Could the pheromones react with any perfume? Could a person possibly have a reaction to pheromones? PS. I am not even sure if this is the topic for this thread, as I am new to the forum and have not figure out the rules quite yet. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/14 "2013-09-17T12:58:29Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Hi > Just a quick update. I am not sure if this is possible, but I got some sort of allergic reaction to ISb. I sprayed 4x (one on each wrist and on my neck from each side), and then used IS on my hair, about 2x. After about 20 mins, my throat stared “closing” - it was all swollen. Could the pheromones react with any perfume? Could a person possibly have a reaction to pheromones? > > PS. I am not even sure if this is the topic for this thread, as I am new to the forum and have not figure out the rules quite yet. > > Thank you. Click the tag below and post your feedback in a recent forum related to [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Not all members visit the intro section. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/15 "2013-09-17T18:25:46Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Hi > Just a quick update. I am not sure if this is possible, but I got some sort of allergic reaction to ISb. I sprayed 4x (one on each wrist and on my neck from each side), and then used IS on my hair, about 2x. After about 20 mins, my throat stared “closing” - it was all swollen. Could the pheromones react with any perfume? Could a person possibly have a reaction to pheromones? > > PS. I am not even sure if this is the topic for this thread, as I am new to the forum and have not figure out the rules quite yet. > > Thank you. It’s possible, far more likely though would be an allergy to something else in the perfume. Test one spray again of JUST IS/b and wait for an hour. If no reaction, wash it off thoroughly, then try the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) at one spray. If both give a reaction, then send both back to AD for a refund, if one, just the one, etc. Hopefully it was a one time reaction. You could also see if they could make an exception in your case and get both unscented (usually it’s not recommended as without a carrier molecule, the mones just tend to sit on the skin and don’t float about the room, thus being basically entirely wasted/having no visible effects on others). To get around this you’d mix them with your favourite perfume, however, some perfumes will not diffuse as well. So IF you get a reaction ask for your money back or see if you can get an unscented replacement. Test the unscented, if still a reaction, then you’re actually allergic to the pheromones themselves as I gather the unscented ones really are just mones plus alcohol. As for this forum, I think it’s fine in your own thread until you’re no longer feeling totally newbish. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/16 "2013-09-26T09:33:08Z")
> [@Wyatt](#): > > It’s possible, far more likely though would be an allergy to something else in the perfume. Test one spray again of JUST IS/b and wait for an hour. If no reaction, wash it off thoroughly, then try the Instant Shine at one spray. > > If both give a reaction, then send both back to AD for a refund, if one, just the one, etc. Hopefully it was a one time reaction. You could also see if they could make an exception in your case and get both unscented (usually it’s not recommended as without a carrier molecule, the mones just tend to sit on the skin and don’t float about the room, thus being basically entirely wasted/having no visible effects on others). To get around this you’d mix them with your favourite perfume, however, some perfumes will not diffuse as well. > > So IF you get a reaction ask for your money back or see if you can get an unscented replacement. Test the unscented, if still a reaction, then you’re actually allergic to the pheromones themselves as I gather the unscented ones really are just mones plus alcohol. > > As for this forum, I think it’s fine in your own thread until you’re no longer feeling totally newbish. Thank you, I did actually tested all of the ones I have separately, and then in different combinations. Somehow, ISb and IShine combination does not do well with me; yet on their own, they are great. Now need to order more stuff! Hi, I tagged this post with IShine and here is my question? Have anyone ever experienced any weird reaction to the combination of ISb and IShine? As I mentioned previously, I got something similar to allergic reaction when using these 2 products combined - my throat started “closing”…very scary feeling. I did a second experiment and got the same result. It left me puzzled. ---
**Author:** ![GinGer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/34f0e0/32.png) [@GinGer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GinGer)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/17 "2013-09-26T09:39:27Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > Welcome Ginger, > > This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. > > I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. > > We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. > > It takes a great deal and I am back logged. > > I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to > > In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. > > Thank you for giving pheromones a chance. > > Your gc was issued! Hi, I still have not received my gc. Can you please look into this and let me know once it is issued? Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-the-world-of-pheromones/59987/18 "2013-09-26T14:49:41Z")
> [@GinGer](#): > > Hi, I still have not received my gc. Can you please look into this and let me know once it is issued? > Thank you. Check your junk mail folder and regular inbox again around the date Mickaelia posted it. If no luck send her a message. As for that combo reaction, western medicine/science tends to discount/ignore things like that, mainly due to laziness on the researcher’s end as you need some pretty dang complicated math to track two variables at once statistically. Chinese medicine on the other hand views that taking various medicines solo without consideration to your present diet, genetic makeup and other medications you’re taking to be somewhat tunnel visioned. (There are some common food additives that we’ve found that if humans take one solo they can eat a ton of the stuff, ditto for the other two in the combo, but when mixing all three particular ones together it can become a deadly combination). My experience with mones is in general you can mix/match and add certain things more or less predictably, but for some mones or combos the synergy between the products can entirely cancel things out, or produce a novel effect that neither by themselves would ever really hint at that possibility.