# New to this and NEED ADVICE!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 1, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569 "2011-08-01T16:46:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/1 "2011-08-01T16:46:35Z")
Hey everybody, Well, I’m new to this site and never had pheros before. I’m 6 feet tall, from CT, work in HR during the week and play semi-pro football on the weekends. I’m 35 and have always been a rather outgoing person. Had my fiance’ leave me after my CFL days were over. But even with that I always wear a smile on my face and try to never see the negative in people. I usually get compliments on my clothes, smile and voice. Ok, I found my massage therapist on an internet business advertising site. She works out of her home. I called her up and asked if she could see me for a massage since I haven’t had one in years and all the hitting in football is catching up to me. She said yes and when we went over the prices I took the hour. The first massage was amazing and she was smiling and really welcoming. I gave her a great tip and she text me directly after that to thank me for the tip and ask when I would come back. She also said she also gives undraped massages. I said “ok, I’ll take that the next time.” When I went back, she had me lay undraped on the table and started off with massaging my butt. She stayed there for AWHILE and went down my legs and rubbed the inner part very close to…a certain area. She talked a little during the whole massage (1hr and a half) and was really nice. I said her hands felt amazing and she said “I’m glad to see you are enjoying the massage”…at that point I realized that I was “standing at attention”. I laughed a little and she just kept massaging. This is how it’s been for the last 3 sessions. She does keep getting closer and closer to my groin and at one point was massaging my groin and stopped as she was getting about an inch away from my genitals. She text me yesterday to see if I was still coming in next week and said she looks forward to seeing me. I’m not sure if this is because she thinks I’m nice/cute or it’s because I tip her $60+ for a massage. I was wondering what would help push this over the edge, I don’t want to be one of those creepy guys to ask her anything…but I’m not opposed to helping her come to a decision (I’m really not looking for sex though-maybe a little extra hand work). ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/2 "2011-08-01T16:46:55Z")
Welcome! Wow, $60+ for a massage, must be are really nice and sexy women. 😉 Oh and she is a Latina, that’s interesting because latin women loves none. None is the sexual male mone, you find it in TUTH. But attention, TUTH is only sexual nothing more. Maybe to intimidating alone, so add social things like IH and you more trust, depth, connection and also deeper conservations. For more fun and mood elevating you can also add [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). So try this combo TUTH + IH + Instant Shine. This combo must be perfect for your own personality. The more you are congruent with this combo, the better are the effects. I have no doubt that this works for you. You can get here also a gift certificate, but please tell us something more about you. Frist how found this place. And need you also mones for other things as women/dating? Maybe for the workplace, friends etc.? So, I hope it help you and have good time with the mones and the nice and helpfully people on the board. ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/3 "2011-08-01T16:48:01Z")
Thanks alot everyone. I forgot to mention she works out of her home and she’s latin. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/4 "2011-08-01T17:03:44Z")
OK, cthurricane - If she’s latin, go and have a search here for the various threads on latinas and the mones they respond to. At its most general, they tend to be responsive to a higher none signature and maybe the fun/happy pheros. Personally the latinas in my life go a bundle on androstenols and a bit of none eg Ammo and have a look at [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO or IH. IS - is fun/happy IO and IH are mainly androstenols which promote flowing conversation and bonding as well as creating a pleasant relaxed feeling. ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/5 "2011-08-01T17:12:55Z")
Thanks alot. I just ordered [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS. So if I’m going in for the massage, when do I apply it? Where do I apply it on my body? How long does it take to work? I was looking up “seducing my massage therapist” and found this website. Then I found ammo and IS and ordered both. I also work in a 90% women environment. I do occasionally hit a bar or club but not too often. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/6 "2011-08-01T17:18:23Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > Thanks alot. I just ordered Ammo and IS. So if I’m going in for the massage, when do I apply it? Where do I apply it on my body? How long does it take to work? > > I was looking up “seducing my massage therapist” and found this website. Then I found ammo and IS and ordered both. I also work in a 90% women environment. I do occasionally hit a bar or club but not too often. Apply it before on your skin, the neck for example. You can add also Instant Sine on your hair, but please not Ammo. You see the effect really fast, no worries. The [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) effects holds so 1,5 -2 std. Ammo holds longer. For the workplace is maybe also A314 a option for more value, cool guy image and respect but also better together with social things. Ammo and Instant Shine are good choices! Have fun with it! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/7 "2011-08-01T17:22:11Z")
Thanks alot. I actually shave my head so I have no hair. 🙂 Can I put Ammo and IS on my neck in the same spot or should I put one on my chest and other on my neck? ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/8 "2011-08-01T17:24:41Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > Can I put Ammo and IS on my neck in the same spot or should I put one on my chest and other on my neck? That’s it. Put one or more on your chest and one ore more on the neck. ---
**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/9 "2011-08-01T17:30:17Z")
Hi there, You sound like a really nice and optimistic person.Thats a pretty interesting story,she must be very sexy and interesting for you to keep going back and tipping her well(^\_^)Im still pretty new and the more experienced people already gave you very good advice already.Mobocaster already suggested searching for threads but ill help you out a little bit.These threads might interest you. [What will attract Latinas?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-will-attract-latinas/42983) ([What will attract Latinas?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-will-attract-latinas/42983)) [Analysis on each pheromone and its effect on different races](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/analysis-on-each-pheromone-and-its-effect-on-different-races/14624) ([Analysis on each pheromone and its effect on different races](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/analysis-on-each-pheromone-and-its-effect-on-different-races/14624)) [A good Latina mix..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-latina-mix/16550) ([A good Latina mix..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-good-latina-mix/16550)) Think your introduction is detailed enough to qualify for a gift certificate so mickaelia should be around when shes free to issue it for you.It will let you get some to-gos to try out(^_^)All the best and hope it goes well for you.Lol,missed the couple of messages.Good luck with the ammo and instant shine.Thats a pretty good combination and im sure youll see results(^_^)Make sure to let us know how it goes(:-p) ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/10 "2011-08-01T17:58:54Z")
Thanks alot. I appreciate the advice and also the gift cert. I have an account on adrocticsdirect (forgive me if I misspelled it). How do I redeem it on that site? I want to order TUTH and IO since that was brought up so much. I will definitely let you all know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/11 "2011-08-01T17:59:49Z")
If there are any other mixes that people have suggestions for, I am open to hearing them. I hang out around women of all colors. ---
**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/12 "2011-08-01T18:08:07Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > Thanks alot. I appreciate the advice and also the gift cert. I have an account on adrocticsdirect (forgive me if I misspelled it). How do I redeem it on that site? I want to order TUTH and IO since that was brought up so much. I will definitely let you all know how it goes. When you get the gift certificate sent to your email.You just pick the gift certificate option at payment and copy and paste the number.It will deduct the 25$ from your total purchase.All the best and good luck(^\_^) ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/13 "2011-08-01T23:02:25Z")
I also want to know how many sprays to use of Ammo and IS. Can I put 2 sprays of each on my neck AND my chest or 2 sprays of each on my chest OR my neck? Or any other combination. I think I should be getting my AMMO and IS tomorrow or the day after. I’m excited!!! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/14 "2011-08-01T23:15:33Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > I also want to know how many sprays to use of Ammo and IS. Can I put 2 sprays of each on my neck AND my chest or 2 sprays of each on my chest OR my neck? Or any other combination. I think I should be getting my AMMO and IS tomorrow or the day after. I’m excited!!! Glad to hear you’re getting your mones… 🙂 Now, in preparation for that delivery of chemical goodness, take a look at my sig below, Intro to Mones and Tisha’s, How to know what are hits?!? Very good reads ESPECIALLY, before you get your mones. Oh, and start up a journal in the men’s forum to get more views from much more experience mone users that I, to get helpful comments and opinions in your mone journey! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/15 "2011-08-01T23:34:12Z")
This helped me ALOT! I appreciate that. I do need to pick up some TUTH…or I hope they add a small bottle in with my next order as a gift. 😉 I will pick a bottle up soon. ---
**Author:** ![cthurricane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea666f/32.png) [@cthurricane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cthurricane)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/16 "2011-08-02T03:42:24Z")
Ok, I just ordered IO and TUTH. So now I’m not sure what to use for my situation…in a few days I’ll have TUTH, AMMO, IO and IS. Can I get help with a great attraction/sexual combo for attracting a latina? ---
**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/17 "2011-08-02T12:11:05Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > Ok, I just ordered IO and TUTH. So now I’m not sure what to use for my situation…in a few days I’ll have TUTH, AMMO, IO and IS. Can I get help with a great attraction/sexual combo for attracting a latina? Lol,im just quoting out of the thead below that i posted earlier since i havent tried attracting latinas before but you could try ammo,tuth and is together for an attraction/sexual combo.Coolkat uses this mix (3x [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + 2x [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) + 2xIS)but you may want to find your sweet spots for each of the products since everyones different.His mixes are usually pretty good though like his chick magnet mixes.Could probably add in IO as well but might detract from the attraction/sexual aspect of it.Should probably read through the thread if you want more details about it. > [@What will attract Latinas?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-will-attract-latinas/42983): > > idk why i feel like im asking a noob question but anyways, what can attract latinas the most, because some one was saying you want to aim at a certain category and then find out they like and all that so what do the spanish flies smiley admire??! personality wise and [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) wise, i would say look wise but im a skinny caucasion i dont think thats a plus. thanks get back at me cool ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/18 "2011-08-02T20:29:19Z")
> [@cthurricane](#): > > Ok, I just ordered IO and TUTH. So now I’m not sure what to use for my situation…in a few days I’ll have TUTH, AMMO, IO and IS. Can I get help with a great attraction/sexual combo for attracting a latina? Since we’re all individual with our own body chemistry; this is where you will need to do the sweet spot testing for yourself. Don’t just go spraying stuff without knowing what does what on you and for you. More often than not, less is more **effective** , as there is the possibility of ODing and then having all your efforts ignored and go to waste. Read the sweet spot test link - the **sweet spot** is a **number** of sprays **not** a spot on the body. 😃 Go do some horizontal salsa dancing! ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/19 "2011-08-02T20:34:37Z")
Read the sweet spot test link - the **sweet spot** is a **number** of sprays **not** a spot on the body. 😃 Astrea … heheeh … i had to laugh with tears in my eyes … Pago ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569/20 "2011-08-02T21:07:38Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > Read the sweet spot test link - the **sweet spot** is a **number** of sprays **not** a spot on the body. 😃 > > Astrea … heheeh … **i had to laugh with tears in my eyes …** > > Pago Ah, Pago! You have NO idea how confused by “sweet spot testing” I was until I read that link! 😃 That one line ended _ **hours** _ of confusion . . . [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-to-this-and-need-advice/51569.md?page=2)