# New! Truth Serum, Military Grade Test Pack **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [November 1, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811 "2006-11-01T18:43:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/21 "2006-11-07T21:13:08Z")
☹ Oh well. I think I’m going to order more Liquid Sunshine before supplies run out. Thanks Jasmin.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/22 "2006-11-14T13:22:21Z")
☹☹☹ _Grumphles_ Bah..I really NEEDED this… \>\_\< Oh well. Like The Countess, I shall wait..not terribly patiently, mind you. Any ETA for this yet, Jasmin? Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/23 "2006-11-14T19:46:49Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > ☹☹☹ > > _Grumphles_ > > Bah..I really NEEDED this… \>\_\< > > Oh well. Like The Countess, I shall wait..not terribly patiently, mind you. > > Any ETA for this yet, Jasmin? > > Ail 🙂 I’m sorry, sweetheart, no precise ETA yet. 🙄 Trust me, I’d love to get it out there. We love putting new things out there in general, but we’re doing the responsible thing and putting all our resources into speeding up our processes here. The backlog is slowly but surely dwindling down, but the test MX series and all the _new_ special requests we keep getting tie us up. We don’t have the free lab time that we did back when we sold mostly off the shelf, ready made full size products. Hopefully by Monday we’ll be ready to put out some new releases again. Speaking of new releases, were you able to grab the MX134 (a mix of A314 reworked with female pheromones) last time around? ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/24 "2006-11-14T20:57:32Z")
… PLEASE tell me you are kidding? ..it was on AGAIN and I missed it? This going away from home to work will have to stop. ARRRGH!\>\_\< I’ll buy a full-size 30 ml Jasmin, if need be to make it cost-effective shipping it to Scotland for you, if you want. Just PM me the price and then I can place an order, as soon as the new freebies are announced tomorrow. 🙂 I cannot believe I missed that again.. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/25 "2006-11-20T23:16:42Z")
i would like to be made aware as well, im very curious as to what is in this one… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/26 "2006-11-21T00:47:36Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > This is a 5 way split test of an upcoming military strength version of Truth Serum. > > 5 mixes, same goals: > > 1. To rapidly create an unusually high degree of trust & rapport > 2. To increase your own awareness > > Some mixes may also increase your perceived authority, using A314 derived technology. > > These mixes are not geared towards typical consumer needs. The consumer version of Truth Serum will be different than these. These are no holds barred mixes, designed to be appropriate for the needs of the intelligence community. > > While we are allowing the public to test these, the current mixes will not be sold to first time pheromone users. > > **There are important warnings that come with these mixes. Please read and understand them.** > > Unlike the relatively mild Instant Honesty product, these mixes can be “expensive” in terms of neurotransmitter use (like drinking too much coffee, when you’re not used to drinking coffee). For this reason, please do not use them daily unless you employee adequate peptide preloading practices. > > You should also not drive within the first hour to two of application. Use your best judgement here. > > You should understand that until you get to used to (“normalize to”) these mixes, they may create unwanted rapport acceleration effects on yourself. Do not use these mixes for mission critical applications until you get used to the effects, and can mentally avoid them. > > Using these mixes is your responsibility. Exercise caution. > > Link forthcoming later today. > > **EDIT:** I just heard that these mixes won’t ship at least 'till Friday. I thought we had them today. Sorry about that. describe peptide pre-loading. alot of us go up and above with nutrition, amino acids and vitamins specific to our nervous system. wearing this sounds more hazzardous to others than ourselves…as they will not be taking precautions. i also want to ask about the “normalizing to” the mix… so that is a possibility as well, becomming used to it? i am asking because i was under the assumption that if you are not at the point being used to something and OD,you can literally shut down. the stuff would be non-effective. i guess i am hearing mixed info and would like clarification.😃 thank you as always! taH taH! ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2006, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/27 "2006-11-21T12:07:41Z")
Hey Jasmin, a couple things I want to know.. how close are you to releasing this.. and compared to the double strength IH how many times multiplied stronger is this? I just want a rough estimate of what I can expect with the strength of this version compared to what I have. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/28 "2006-12-01T19:06:05Z")
Anyone know the status of this? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/29 "2006-12-01T19:10:34Z")
Lor, see this post about peptide preloading by Michael. > [@Help/Advice A314/IS](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/help-advice-a314-is/565/8): > > The bodybuilder stack is pretty extreme. Even caffeine alone can have you running on empty in terms of dopamine and norepinephrine. Combine that with yohimbe, aspirin/willow, ephedrine/ma huang, etc., and you really don’t have neurotransmitters to spare. Put another way – stimulants put the foot on the pedal, but they don’t refill the gas tank. The stack is also very hard on the adrenals, so you get more into race metaphors. If you take your car out to the track often, you have to be willing… Lots of information in that thread on this topic. > [@Lor](#): > > describe peptide pre-loading. alot of us go up and above with nutrition, amino acids and vitamins specific to our nervous system. wearing this sounds more hazzardous to others than ourselves…as they will not be taking precautions. > i also want to ask about the “normalizing to” the mix… so that is a possibility as well, becomming used to it? i am asking because i was under the assumption that if you are not at the point being used to something and OD,you can literally shut down. the stuff would be non-effective. > i guess i am hearing mixed info and would like clarification.😃 thank you as always! taH taH! ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/30 "2006-12-01T19:54:27Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Anyone know the status of this? I’m very sorry, but the boss doesn’t want any new releases (besides the weekly ones we’ve already made a commitment to) until the lab queue is at just a day or less like it used to be. We’re training a new tech who looks like he’ll come in a few times a week, so that should help. Once the queue is down, we’ll have lots of fun new things coming out again. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/31 "2006-12-01T19:55:59Z")
> [@Rob](#): > > Hey Jasmin, a couple things I want to know.. how close are you to releasing this.. and compared to the double strength Instant Honesty how many times multiplied stronger is this? I just want a rough estimate of what I can expect with the strength of this version compared to what I have. The [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) like components will be equivalent to something like a 4X Honesty. There’s other factors being tested, though. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/32 "2006-12-01T20:01:47Z")
Hi Jasmin! Realistically, do you think we will be able to purchase this before Christmas? Given that before the Christmas postal services started my orders had slowed from taking 3 days to over 12, I would hate to buy it and not have it in time for the festive period. Also, I asked a Q. about the A314 mix for ladies either in this thread or another, so if you could let me know if I can buy it in a full-size that would be terrific, thanks. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/33 "2006-12-01T20:03:00Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > describe peptide pre-loading. alot of us go up and above with nutrition, amino acids and vitamins specific to our nervous system. wearing this sounds more hazzardous to others than ourselves…as they will not be taking precautions. Yeah, this isn’t the “civilian” release. This is a serious, heavy duty tool that’ll have definitely have some drawbacks. I’ll have to ask more about peptide preloading. > [@](#): > > i also want to ask about the “normalizing to” the mix… so that is a possibility as well, becomming used to it? i am asking because i was under the assumption that if you are not at the point being used to something and OD,you can literally shut down. the stuff would be non-effective. > i guess i am hearing mixed info and would like clarification.😃 thank you as always! taH taH! Like most pheromone mixes, you can get used to it’s effects when exposed constantly. Michael compares it to eating pizza everyday. Appeal is lost at at a “biological level”, and neither [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (nor pizza!) will do their “magic” on you anymore when used continuously over a long period of time. After taking a break, of course, you can get the effects back. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/34 "2006-12-01T20:05:43Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Hi Jamin! > > Realistically, do you think we will be able to purchase this before Christmas? With the new guy coming in, I think so! > [@](#): > > Given that before the Christmas postal services atrted my orders had slowed from taking 3 days to over 12, I would hate to buy it and not have it in time for the festive period. > > Also, I asked a q. about the A314 mix for ladies, so if you could let me know if I can buy it in a full-size that wuld be terrific, thanks. No, I’m sorry. I’m not allowed to sell full bottles of anything _that_ untested anymore. Until there’s enough feedback on a mix, we can only sell the little To Go sizes. What we can probably do is offer a 5 pack of different the A314 for Women mixes. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/35 "2006-12-01T20:54:56Z")
Hey Jasmin, where is Michael these days? Why doesn’t he post anymore?😕 I miss his posts! ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/36 "2006-12-01T20:57:54Z")
Jasmin, I would snap a 5-pack of the ladies To-Go mixes up in a nano-second, and think Lor would be in hot pursuit, so as soon as that is available, if you could announce it, that would be great and I will go shopping! 🙂 Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/37 "2006-12-01T23:01:20Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Jasmin, I would snap a 5-pack of the ladies To-Go mixes up in a nano-second, and think Lor would be in hot pursuit, so as soon as that is available, if you could announce it, that would be great and I will go shopping! 🙂 > > Ail 🙂 Me, too! I really liked MX105 and MX134, so I’m game for trying more along those lines. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/38 "2006-12-02T02:14:07Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Yeah, this isn’t the “civilian” release. This is a serious, heavy duty tool that’ll have definitely have some drawbacks. > > I’ll have to ask more about peptide preloading. > > Like most pheromone mixes, you can get used to it’s effects when exposed constantly. Michael compares it to eating pizza everyday. Appeal is lost at at a “biological level”, and neither pheromones (nor pizza!) will do their “magic” on you anymore when used continuously over a long period of time. > > After taking a break, of course, you can get the effects back. peptide preloading?? ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/39 "2006-12-02T02:23:23Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > peptide preloading?? see the link in post #29 of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/40 "2006-12-02T02:28:47Z")
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