# New! Truth Serum, Military Grade Test Pack

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811>\
**Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\
**Created:** [November 1, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811 "2006-11-01T18:43:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/41 "2006-12-02T22:56:51Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
>
> I’m very sorry, but the boss doesn’t want any new releases (besides the weekly ones we’ve already made a commitment to) until the lab queue is at just a day or less like it used to be. We’re training a new tech who looks like he’ll come in a few times a week, so that should help.
> 
> Once the queue is down, we’ll have lots of fun new things coming out again. 🙂

I don’t know about the rest of the forum members but I’m having a tough time just keeping up _reading_ about new releases and stuff in the works, much less having any time hoping to actually TRY some… This slowdown is actually a bit welcome for me. And my wallet.

Did decide to take a chance and added the latest pair of MX’s to my last order this past week… I haven’t even really done a decent test of the KZI mixes from LS yet… So many goodies, so little time… Waaaaaa!

☹

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/42 "2006-12-03T03:53:32Z")

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> [@nbully79](#):
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> Hey Jasmin, where is Michael these days? Why doesn’t he post anymore?😕 I miss his posts!

Yea I miss his posts and insights too, especially the insider knowledge. I guess he is a very busy man though so I understand. Will he ever be active on here again or did it just take up too much time?

Visionary

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 11:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/44 "2006-12-08T11:39:14Z")

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_Notices Michael floating about the forums, and stands innocently whistling to herself in THIS topic, hoping for a concrete date of release for this, and/or the 5-pack of A314 mixes for us ladies_

PLEASE!!! 🙂

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 12:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/45 "2006-12-08T12:28:33Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
>
> _Notices Michael floating about the forums, and stands innocently whistling to herself in THIS topic, hoping for a concrete date of release for this, and/or the 5-pack of A314 mixes for us ladies_
> 
> PLEASE!!! 🙂
> 
> Ail 🙂

Thanks to a keen, new staff member, our queue is now down to manageable levels (about a day for most things, up to 3 for complex requests)… therefore , my dear, you’ll be glad to know _I_ am ready to introduce new test packs again.

There’s just one more hurdle. Test packs eat up _lots_ of bottles.

This is normally not a problem. In fact, I knew we’d be putting out more packs as I saw our backlog wither away, so I had 4 boxes each containing 2500 of the _To Go_ sized bottles coming in on Tuesday. The problem is that they’re now in limbo, thanks to quite a number of spectacular foul ups at UPS. (the variety of their mistakes was like a firework shows… so many things to see, so many things bursting in air! Then all of a sudden, twigs and parched children actually end up catch fire themselves from the spectacle due to the careless arrogance of the “technicians” at the helm)

If UPS actually finds the packages and get them to us today (Friday), we can start releasing test packs again this weekend. Otherwise, it’ll have to wait 'till late next week. I’ve already placed an order for more of the bottles, to be sent by another courier.

I’m more unhappy about this that I’d normally be, since it’s really especially atrocious timing given the season here in the US. There’s quite a few different test packs I’d like to release, actually.

That actually brings up something related: I hope more people pick up the current test pack for the next version of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (see it [here](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) soon. I want to make great strides in “friendliess technology”, but that requires more participation.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/46 "2006-12-08T13:03:16Z")

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I just literally spat some very good Cabernet Shiraz all over my monitor, since, as I was laughing so hard at your UPS annihilations - I choked.

Sorry for the visual, but I am really NOT chuffed to waste bloody good wine! \>\_\<

That’s great news about the new person, and not-so great news about the abysmal postal services, Michael. I was really hoping this would be in my sticky mitts before Crimbo, but that seems unlikely now, so I will just have to wait until 2007 to see how wonderful it is.

I haven’t gone for the IO pack, but am eagerly awaiting the Liquid Sunshine one..and about four other orders.

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/47 "2007-02-23T15:11:33Z")

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any word on Truth Serum release date yet? and I’m working my way through the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) test pack MX144-147 and enjoying it thus far! Have posted a few results in Women’s forum.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/48 "2007-08-17T16:33:51Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> This is a 5 way split test of an upcoming military strength version of Truth Serum.
> 
> 5 mixes, same goals:
> 
> 1. To rapidly create an unusually high degree of trust & rapport
> 2. To increase your own awareness
> 
> Some mixes may also increase your perceived authority, using A314 derived technology.
> 
> These mixes are not geared towards typical consumer needs. The consumer version of Truth Serum will be different than these. These are no holds barred mixes, designed to be appropriate for the needs of the intelligence community.
> 
> While we are allowing the public to test these, the current mixes will not be sold to first time pheromone users.
> 
> **There are important warnings that come with these mixes. Please read and understand them.**
> 
> Unlike the relatively mild Instant Honesty product, these mixes can be “expensive” in terms of neurotransmitter use (like drinking too much coffee, when you’re not used to drinking coffee). For this reason, please do not use them daily unless you employee adequate peptide preloading practices.
> 
> You should also not drive within the first hour to two of application. Use your best judgement here.
> 
> You should understand that until you get to used to (“normalize to”) these mixes, they may create unwanted rapport acceleration effects on yourself. Do not use these mixes for mission critical applications until you get used to the effects, and can mentally avoid them.
> 
> Using these mixes is your responsibility. Exercise caution.
> 
> Link forthcoming later today.
> 
> **EDIT:** I just heard that these mixes won’t ship at least 'till Friday. I thought we had them today. Sorry about that.

I don’t know if this project is still going ahead, but there could be another way to gather ‘information’ for the needs of the intelligence community. This one involves tackling things from a completely different angle.

Basically it involves adding fast diffusing P79. Within the first 20 mins of applying unscented P79 (at high doses - from memory 50 mcg and over) there is a definite hyping up/burst of impulsive mental and physical energy brought along. People say what’s on their mind without a second thought - just straight to the point, no mucking around.

The 20 minute window of opportunity doesn’t sound like it is very long but all you have to do is excuse yourself for a minute and add another high P79 dose to repeat this effect. Thus I suggest this P79 product be sold in a separate bottle to the main Military Grade [Truth Serum](https://a314.com/product/truth-serum/) products.

The hyped-up impulsiveness of high dose P79 might be the perfect foil for the rapport acceleration effects of the Military Grade Truth Serum products. These two different ‘angles’ used cleverly at alternating times could well yield maximum information extraction.

-Visionary

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/49 "2007-08-24T22:31:51Z")

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I soooooooo want to try this…

🙂

May

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**Author:** ![noblelady](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noblelady/32/2391_2.png) [@noblelady](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/noblelady)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/50 "2007-09-06T02:07:36Z")

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> [@Bunny](#):
>
> …
> 
> PLEASE tell me you are kidding?
> 
> ..it was on AGAIN and I missed it?
> 
> This going away from home to work will have to stop.
> 
> ARRRGH!\>\_\<
> 
> …  
> 🙂
> 
> I cannot believe I missed that again..
> 
> Ail 🙂

I’m with you darlin’ 🙂  
\>sends cyber hugs and comforts, along with an offer to split large order\<😉 😛

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**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/51 "2007-09-07T04:09:48Z")

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It’s for real! Woot! 😃

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**Author:** ![Journey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Journey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Journey)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/52 "2007-09-08T20:35:19Z")

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Is this product available in some form yet?

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**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 9:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/53 "2007-09-17T09:11:37Z")

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Ill pre-order it. That would be oh so useful at work!

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/54 "2007-12-13T15:53:37Z")

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gah, the worst person to wear this would be me.. i’m a law student doing my practicals at courts and do visits to interrogation rooms at the police office often.

imagine me wearing it while observing an interrogation and suddenly there’s urges to confess sins in the room.

i’m guessing this stuff has got to be really worn with discretion.

that said, i can’t wait for this to be released and for the [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) users to tell their experience.

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**Author:** ![Karmiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/karmiel/32/2234_2.png) [@Karmiel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Karmiel)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/55 "2007-12-13T19:20:09Z")

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Oooh this sounds interesting 😃 I bet it’s gonna be so expensive though, any idea when it’s coming out?

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**Author:** ![Felicity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@Felicity](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Felicity)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/56 "2007-12-14T01:20:52Z")

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\> imagine me wearing it while observing an interrogation and suddenly there’s urges to confess sins in the room.

If the police where you are, are as routinely dishonest as the police where I am, wear it! You’ll win every case.

Be especially mischievous, and sprinkle some on the witness stand during opposition testimony too..!

Hmm.. you’ve got me thinking now..

F.

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/57 "2007-12-14T18:05:20Z")

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> [@Felicity](#):
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> \> imagine me wearing it while observing an interrogation and suddenly there’s urges to confess sins in the room.
> 
> If the police where you are, are as routinely dishonest as the police where I am, wear it! You’ll win every case.
> 
> Be especially mischievous, and sprinkle some on the witness stand during opposition testimony too..!
> 
> Hmm.. you’ve got me thinking now..
> 
> F.

exactly.. i’ll be a kickass lawyer and nobody’ll know why. although i hope you guys won’t blow the secret for me when i become world-famous later 🆒

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**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/58 "2007-12-15T03:58:45Z")

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I won’t say a word! 😉

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2007, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/59 "2007-12-17T20:31:03Z")

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…i have some interesting applications in mind for this stuff! 😮

Oh, how the mind wanders…

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**Author:** ![ayash\_m](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ayash_m/32/1501_2.png) [@ayash\_m](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ayash_m)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/60 "2007-12-24T00:38:53Z")

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is it out yet!!!

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**Author:** ![rollercoaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rollercoaster/32/2361_2.png) [@rollercoaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rollercoaster)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-truth-serum-military-grade-test-pack/811/61 "2008-01-02T06:07:39Z")

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It’s more then a year now since you made the first post about releasing it for testing, so.. gotten any closer yet? 🙂

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