# New User needs a lot of help

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 29, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527 "2009-03-29T11:44:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![mickeytfm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mickeytfm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mickeytfm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/1 "2009-03-29T11:44:20Z")

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40 year old male, just out of a long-term relationship

never been good with women, so i need all the edge i can get

i like to go out to clubs/bars (i like the music), but always have a tough time striking a conversation

i like younger girls in their mid-twenties (what can i say, i like them young)

i spent quite a bit of time in the last 24 hours reading a lot of the posts and information on products, but still not exactly sure which products to buy

here is what i figured (and please correct me if i am wrong):  
i should probably get A314 (i work in a professional environment where i would like to advance)  
i should probably get Ammo X2 (because i am older, i probably need all the -none i can get)  
i have no clue what kind of -nol product to get: Instant Shine (i guess this has more effect on me than others, but not sure)? [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)? Instant Honesty? something else?

i intend to use A314 during the day at work, and a combination of all three (A314 + Ammo X2 + whatever you all recommend for -nol) when i go out at night

am i even on the right track?

please help

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/2 "2009-03-29T11:59:49Z")

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Hi mickey, welcome on board.

I think you are probably pretty much on the right track, to clarify the socials for you.

Instant Openness promotes quantity of conversation, it can make breaking the ice easier.

Instant Honesty promotes quality of conversation, people will say things that they wouldn’t normally admit at an early stage.

Instant Shine does exactly what you imagine it would do, you feel and appear shiny, people gravitate towards you.

I would advise you to look at [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), it is great for slightly shy guys and has the added benefit of making older guys appear younger (and vice versa) and Come talk to Me 2, very roughly speaking it’s a combination of IO and IH and may be beneficial to you.

Best advice, keep reading the forum, there’s a huge amount of information 😃

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/3 "2009-03-29T12:14:02Z")

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Hi ,

Welcme to the forum.

You are right on A314 and AMMO there.

A34 is good to help you advance in your work or career. People will respect you and think you are capable and trusted.

AMMO is for the attraction. It can make girls attracted to you.

As for nol, you can try IO, IH or Shine.

IO will make goirls ant to talk t you.It is an ice breaker.

IH is to make the comversation last loner as they will talk to you deeper. This can make make the girls closer to you.

Shine is the feel good phero. I maks you and the people around youin light mood

Good luck to you

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**Author:** ![chicagokid1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@chicagokid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chicagokid1)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/4 "2009-03-29T19:03:54Z")

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Hey buddy welcome to the board man,  
I think your on the right track buddy. I would get the a314, ammox2, honesty, and shine. Thats a great well rounded pack and you can do alot of experiments with these to find your sweet spot with each, then start mixing to create new phero signatures.  
have fun man.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![mickeytfm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mickeytfm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mickeytfm)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/5 "2009-03-29T19:49:56Z")

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Another start-up question from the newb

thank you for the start-up advice so far

one other stupid question from the new member: what do you all say when someone asks you what you are wearing? and maybe the answer is different if it’s someone you know because they will smell you everytime they see you so you can’t avoid the question forever

thank you for your help

Mickey

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**Author:** ![ajo41992](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ajo41992/32/521_2.png) [@ajo41992](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ajo41992)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/6 "2009-03-29T20:14:58Z")

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Well, I usually wear a cologne to cover the scent. So, naturally I’d say “stetson untamed.” If you’ll be seeing a person regularly and you fear the question, I’d suggest you do the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/7 "2009-03-29T20:22:44Z")

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You could say its some sample someone gave you, you forget the name.

And since you’ve started your thread in this section, tell us about your personality and how you relate to people, and also the things you want to accomplish with pheros.

This information will help us to best advise you on the most appropriate pheros for your particular needs, and also help to get you qualified for your $25 gift certificate 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/8 "2009-03-30T09:32:09Z")

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Hello There, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

[Pheromones](https://a314.com/) can increase attraction and interaction for all ages. We cant guarantee the younger ladies will take a interest that depends on if they are into older men but mones will get you noticed and give you a edge for those who are looking for a more mature man.

A314 would be a good choice for you work situation to up your status and give a strong capable leader vibe.

AMMO is sexy masculine attractive and mildly arousing and great for you situation. Yes you could use Double AMMO but still only use one spray and work up till you find your dosage. 40 is mature not old and you could still get the OD effect.

I suggest Ishine. This one is warm charismatic and will give you a youthful air about you. If you like the younger ladies this is a big plus.

Lastly IO to increase social interaction and help open people up more.

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> one other stupid question from the new member: what do you all say when someone asks you what you are wearing? and maybe the answer is different if it’s someone you know because they will smell you everytime they see you so you can’t avoid the question forever

You can say its just a cologne sample some lovely lady was handing out last time you were in the store and you dont remember the name or something like that.

If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way**

Have fun

Tisha  
Hostess/Guide

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**Author:** ![mickeytfm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mickeytfm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mickeytfm)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user-needs-a-lot-of-help/27527/9 "2009-03-31T04:47:16Z")

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would you recommend 1x or stronger IS at my age and for what i am trying to achieve?

and you would not recommend Come Talk 2 Me as Diamond suggested instead of IO?

> [@tisha23](#):
>
> Hello There, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂
> 
> Pheromones can increase attraction and interaction for all ages. We cant guarantee the younger ladies will take a interest that depends on if they are into older men but mones will get you noticed and give you a edge for those who are looking for a more mature man.
> 
> A314 would be a good choice for you work situation to up your status and give a strong capable leader vibe.
> 
> AMMO is sexy masculine attractive and mildly arousing and great for you situation. Yes you could use Double AMMO but still only use one spray and work up till you find your dosage. 40 is mature not old and you could still get the OD effect.
> 
> I suggest Ishine. This one is warm charismatic and will give you a youthful air about you. If you like the younger ladies this is a big plus.
> 
> Lastly IO to increase social interaction and help open people up more.
> 
> You can say its just a cologne sample some lovely lady was handing out last time you were in the store and you dont remember the name or something like that.
> 
> If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way**
> 
> Have fun
> 
> Tisha  
> Hostess/Guide
