# New User **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 28, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438 "2008-07-28T17:35:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joshua\_nk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@joshua\_nk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joshua_nk)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/1 "2008-07-28T17:35:58Z")
Hello everyone. My name is joshua and I have been interested in phero research for some time. I have now done two small shipments of to-go products to do some initial experimentation. Overall, my results are a very weak positive, but I am looking forward to my second shipment arriving to see what happens. I will post any interesting results I receive on the forum. Thanks for the bonus in my first shipment. Personally, I have noticed absolutely nothing with the instant honesty, but the thought was very kind. Tat ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/2 "2008-07-28T17:51:15Z")
Hey josha and welcome to this forum! Im glad that you join this place! This is a great and friendly place to share a lot of fun experiences and tips about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)! So what products do you currently have? Just take it slow and try one at a time, to see better results and learn more about how each one work. This would be very beneficial in the long run ๐Ÿ˜‰ So good luck and let us know if you have any questions at all! ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/3 "2008-07-28T18:07:37Z")
Hi Joshua, welcome to the forum. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Ammo would be other products to consider, and who knows, your wife might even like the smell of those (read your other post in a different thread). ๐Ÿ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/4 "2008-07-28T18:11:16Z")
Hi joshua Great to have you as a member here in Pherotalk plus your keen interest in phero research ๐Ÿ™‚ Congrats on your orders ๐Ÿ˜ƒ So mind telling us what have you ordered there? If you tell us that, we will be able to help you there ๐Ÿ™‚ Yes i agreed with my buddy Mockingbird on take it slow & try one at a time ๐Ÿ™‚ See you ๐Ÿ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![joshua\_nk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/59ef9b/32.png) [@joshua\_nk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/joshua_nk)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/5 "2008-07-28T19:00:57Z")
iโ€™m definately taking it slow and you can see some of my new findings with turn up the heat in the menโ€™s advice section. On the first order I received all of the following in to-go sizes: Turn up the heat Instant Shine [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Instant Honesty (free gift) So far, I enjoy testing Turn Up the Heat the most as it has had the best hits/results so far. Instant shine gives me a massive headache, even with one spray to my wrists. Instant Female Magic and Instant Honest have had no effect that I can see, even during my wifeโ€™s cycle. Granted, I have never had any problems in starting and maintaining conversations with women, so that may be part of the problem in noticing hits from shine or honesty. Furthermore, my wife dislikes all of the smells, so I canโ€™t really mix in more than a spray or two of anything and I wonder how some people in the forum get away with four or five pheros all with two or three spraysโ€ฆ I have taken to putting them on outside the house, letting them air out for about 2 minutes, then going in. I should be receiving two more to-go bottles on the next shipment, unless they send me another fun product to test, and they are: Ammo P83 Iโ€™ve read the posts relating to these for the past few weeks and have to say I am skeptical and interested in putting them to the test, especially the 83. Speaking of which, I was reading Trishaโ€™s comments about some of the putatives and experimones being placebos to test for validity and experimenter bias. I completely agree with this, but it doesnโ€™t seem right if androtics is selling placebos at an elevated price from the confirmed pheros. I can understand not selling them dirt cheap/free as people would know, but I paid twice the amount for 83 as I did for all of the others. Based on the reports, I doubt this one is a placebo, but I found that comment troubling as I could be getting ripped offโ€ฆ That said, I find all of your posts very interesting and am especially thankful for the various moderators and hard-core testers for their informative and interesting posts and stickies. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/6 "2008-07-28T23:20:23Z")
Hello Joshua Welcome to Pherotalk ๐Ÿ™‚ Its just Putatives that may or may not act as pheromones. The experimones are fine. I think your also misunderstanding something. If you order P83 you will get the same P83 as everyone else. They do not send out a few P83 placebos. What I was referring to is a putative number as a whole being placebo. Its not that they are placebos when they are released they just end up doing nothing according to testing results and get scrapped. Testing occurs inside and outside the forum. The advanced section is for advanced users interested in testing new molecules and the experienced users know that they may do nothing before they buy them. You need a certain amount of experience in getting the consumer products to work before you should start testing anything advanced. Reactions to putatives are not always easy to pick up on. If you want proven products then you should stick to the consumer line. I can tell you that all of the putatives in the store at this time cause a effect. The only ones that possibly dont are P123 thru P126 because they are new and results are not in yet. Its all part of the testing process. If you provide reports on the products you use in the forum you can always request to join the reporting users panal and get the discounts. You can read about that in the store stickies. Your wife knows your natural pheromone signature and its going to take some time to recondition her to these new ones. Its normal of anyone close to you. They do get used to it after repeated exposure. pheromones work on a subconscious level once you make a person conscious of wearing them they will notice. Same as when your pits smell, no one notices till you say Hey do I stink In all likelihood your not seeing full results because your not wearing the correct dosage. Its hard to say without knowing how much you wore and where you applied them. If you need help I will be happy to give you some tips. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ **Your GC will go out shortly** ๐Ÿ˜ƒ Tisha ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/new-user/16438/7 "2008-07-29T02:08:10Z")
Ok i have read your report there joshua & also good selection of phero products that you have ordered there ๐Ÿ™‚ Btw interesting report there ๐Ÿ™‚ Ok i suggest you continue using Turn Up The Heat & give Instant honesty a try once again for your relationship with your wife there & i agreed with Lady Tisha that it takes time for your wife to get used to the new pheros there ๐Ÿ™‚ Well for the putative 83 issue, i see that Lady Tisha has got it covered ๐Ÿ™‚ Yes what she have said about the putatives & experimones is absolutely correct ๐Ÿ™‚ Anyway have fun with the pheros & see ya ๐Ÿ™‚