# Newb ? about A314 and -none

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 4, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947 "2007-08-04T00:59:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/1 "2007-08-04T00:59:25Z")

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I’ve been searching the forums, reading through pages of very useful info, but I might have looked over what I’m trying to find out. How exactly does A314 reduce the sometimes negative effects of -none? Would the effects of things like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or TUTH that have 2.5 mcg of -none per spray be less subtle? Would wearing A314 cancel out/reduces the negative as well as the positive effects of -none? Thanks for all the help for this.

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**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/2 "2007-08-04T02:24:12Z")

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A314 does not reduce -none negative effects, at least in my experience and in what I’ve read. It has very little -none in it. I think, anyway, that it complements -none in some ways and people who are upset or kinda violent with you because of -none bad effects or an OD would not be brave enough to tell you bad things because of respect given by A314, or they might say worse things if you don’t have an alpha behaviour (very importante when wearing high -none or A314).

Where have you read A314 cancels -none? 🙂

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**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/3 "2007-08-04T02:31:00Z")

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^ I might be wrong then, I’ll have to do more research. I’ve used up to 6 drops of A314 on one day, the subtle effects I’ve noticed were definitely weren’t subtle anymore. I’ve just read on this forum that A314 complements the effects of -none, maybe I just misuderstood it and took it like cancelling out the negatives of -none.

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**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/4 "2007-08-04T02:34:42Z")

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> [@bighead1221](#):
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> ^ I might be wrong then, I’ll have to do more research. I’ve used up to 6 drops of A314 on one day, the subtle effects I’ve noticed were definitely weren’t subtle anymore. I’ve just read on this forum that A314 complements the effects of -none, maybe I just misuderstood it and took it like cancelling out the negatives of -none.

Find your sweet point with A314 considering the effects you want to have 😉. For me and my normal behaviour 6 drops are far too much, at least for a disco or casual scene. It might be useful for you in certain situations anyway, go on testing and tell us! 😉

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**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/5 "2007-08-04T03:02:56Z")

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> [@bighead1221](#):
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> ^ I might be wrong then, I’ll have to do more research. I’ve used up to 6 drops of A314 on one day, the subtle effects I’ve noticed were definitely weren’t subtle anymore. I’ve just read on this forum that A314 complements the effects of -none, maybe I just misuderstood it and took it like cancelling out the negatives of -none.

I have had some really good hitting and excellent social mixes with A314 and several added mcg none and good cover.

I have always worked the mixes up allowing for each drop of A314 to contain about 4 mcg none.

So i just use the appropriate amount of sprays depending upon the target age and gender that i interacting with in the perceived timeframes.

I just seem to also get best results overall across the board with A314 alone at about 2 drops.

I also consider it to be a good mixer because it always seems to have an uncanny knack of suprising me with consistant perceived hits.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/6 "2007-08-04T03:37:17Z")

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Nothing will cancel androstenone save a long hot shower and plenty 'o soap. However you can control and buffer it somewhat with complementary mones. AndrostAnone is great for buffering androstenone–pulls back some of the negatives without killing the edginess. Alpha and beta androstenol add a friendly vibe thereby reducing some of the possible intimidation of androstenone. A-1 can also take the edge off of androstenone for female targets. Doesn’t do much for men.

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**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/7 "2007-08-04T03:47:58Z")

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^Thanks for the info, one more ? though, can Androsterone also be used to buffer some of thee effects of androstenone??? Btw for the record, I didin’t use 6 drops of A314 out of ignorance or anything, I wanted to find out for myself the extreme effects of too much of it. I know people say that it’s rare to OD on it, but at higher doses, I would say that A314 is more harm.

^ isn’t alpha and beta androstenol in Instant Openness and/or Instant Honesty?? I don’t really know what A-1 is though, is it the base chemical in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) like TAA in IS?

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/8 "2007-08-04T04:24:59Z")

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I don’t think androsterone will reduce or negate androstenone’s effects. Think of it as a complimentary or helper pheromone. It helps androstenone by further reinforcing a masculine and dominant persona without adding additional aggressiveness or intimidation. It does not hold back the edginess and aggression of a large androstenone dose. However, androsterone by itself helps impart a manly, strong and rock steady persona. The problem is androsterone needs some androstenone to keep you from appearing too fatherly. Well, some women prefer the older “fathery” vibe so it can be a plus sometimes. I love it when my lover calls me “daddy” or “papa” at the height of her passion.

You might wanta read up on the classic [pheromones](https://a314.com/) at:

[http://pherolibrary.com/](http://pherolibrary.com/)

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**Author:** ![bighead1221](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@bighead1221](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bighead1221)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 4:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-about-a314-and-none/4947/9 "2007-08-04T04:37:46Z")

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:-):-othanks for all the help, i think im pretty sure what im going to get next. I just need to know what to do with the smell coming out of me after wearing the pheromones for a while.
