# Newb from Australia, broken heart **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 6, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908 "2008-10-06T10:09:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![High\_Tower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@High\_Tower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/High_Tower)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 10:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/1 "2008-10-06T10:09:46Z")
Hey all I’ve been lurking here for about a week now, just trying to gather some early info. I am 21, male, and i live in Brisbane, Australia. Here’s my story. A few weeks ago, my long term GF decided our relationship wasn’t working out for her. She felt she wasn’t getting as much out of it as she was putting in, and that she had to look after me, and she was pretty much right on the money. I was free with money, and generally disorganised, and I realise in hindsight that I had become complacent in the relationship. I have never been so crushed in all of my life. She is the woman of my dreams, and I am putting everything I have into growing into a more mature, dependable person, so that I can be her equal in any future relationship. She wants to be single for a while, and so I’m giving her a few months space. The next time I see her is new years as friends, and then (after she hgoes overseas with her sister for a few weeks,) valentines day as a “date” (I dont know to what extent of that word “date” the day means to her =/). I am terrified that she’ll meet someone else between then and now. After reading and re-reading these walls for a few days, I decided it was well worth my while to make myself known and to see if these products could help me with my situation. So here I am, asking for you guys’ help and support. Please understand, I am not here to find a means of forcing her upon me, just to give myself the best chance to show her who I have grown into when that day rolls around, and to remind her of why she fell in live with me 3 years ago. I want her to know i can make her happy. I would bring this woman the sun if she wished for it. That’s my story =( thanks for reading. HT ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/2 "2008-10-06T11:53:06Z")
Hi High\_Tower welcome to the forum 🙂 its great to see another member from australia, sorry to hear about your relationship. so any specific effects you look for from [pheromones](https://a314.com/)?? different pheromones here will give you different results, certain pheromones are good for socialising, while some will make you appear more mature and respected? maybe thats what you are looking for?? you wanna show her who you are, so tell us a bit more about yourself?? who are you really? what’s your personality like? are you outgoing? introvert? aggressive in bed?😃 lol jk anyway, tell us a bit more so we could help you better and give you some advices on what exactly you can use to achieve your goals. have fun 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![High\_Tower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@High\_Tower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/High_Tower)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/3 "2008-10-06T12:02:26Z")
Well, from what I have read (just about every word in the forums by now), I think i can break it down into the specific products I’ve (in my newbness) been looking at: A314 - I want her to see me as respectable and responsible, an equal at least [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) - I want her to feel comfortable around me Instant Shine - Of course I want her to like me Instant Openness - So we can have a good conversation running all night Turn Up The Heat - So i can (cautiously) give her the signal that I’m interested still, maybe so she might relive some old feelings for me I want to appear responsible, fun, and attractive to her, I guess, the same as most “first” dates, as we’ll basically be starting from square 1. I’m not looking to jump in the sack that night, nor for many after that. Thanks for the reply K24 =) HT ---
**Author:** ![esstee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/esstee/32/2082_2.png) [@esstee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/esstee)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/4 "2008-10-06T12:17:50Z")
Welcome to the forum! I’d suggest IS and IO and IH which will get her more open and trusting to you. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH might be some good additions to that list. This will help her get aroused or something along the lines 😉 Which could lead to some good talks. ---
**Author:** ![High\_Tower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@High\_Tower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/High_Tower)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/5 "2008-10-06T12:24:57Z")
I’m a pretty confident guy, and we’re very used to each other, although after a 4ish month break, who knows what the other will be like. It’s important that I dont come across as arrogant or cocky, another flaw I am actively removing from myself, and something she used to dislike. I want her to be attracted to me (basically, I need to remind her how she used to feel), and i want her to feel like we would be equals in a renewed relationship. The balance used to be more in her favor, but I am sorting myself out and intend to be who I need to be, and i have to give her that vibe. So, yeah. Attraction is very important (friend zone is the worst possible outcome), as is trust and comfort. Maybe leave out the A314? I dunno, that’s why i’m here =) HT ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/6 "2008-10-06T14:24:26Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. That is a pretty good mix of products you are thingking about. The two changez I would make would be to consider Ammo and exchange the IO for IH. You already know her so the IH would help with better conversation as opposed to general chattiness and may help rekindle feelings of connection. I would go sparing ly with the A314 then cover with a spray of Ammo. For the thinking on that try reading the threads in my signature block. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/7 "2008-10-06T21:43:35Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 😃 I am sorry about your break up. If you were meant to be together she will not find another while your apart. I know this statement doesn’t make you feel better so lets work on making you the best you can be for the next time your together. I am sending you in a different direction. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) would be better for you then A314. IG is mature worldly and trusting, Its respectful without the alpha intimidation factor. I would suggest AMMO over Turn Up The Heat. AMMO is more interesting while still being arousing. Instant Honesty over Instant Openness for a deeper more intimate connection. It induces a deeper more meaningful conversation. Instant Shine to give you a warm charismatic charm. I also suggest your work on your organizational skills by reading > **[Tall Order! Seven Master Strategies to Organize Your Life and Double Your...](https://www.amazon.com/Master-Strategies-Organize-Double-Success/dp/1598723901)** > > Tall Order! Seven Master Strategies to Organize Your Life and Double Your Success in Half the Time \[Honoree Corder\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. Tall Order! Seven Master Strategies to Organize Your Life and Double Your Success... This is geared toward business but the practices apply to organizing your life as well > **[Amazon.com: Influence: Science and Practice: 9780205609994: Cialdini, Robert:...](https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Practice-Robert-B-Cialdini/dp/0205609996)** > > Amazon.com: Influence: Science and Practice: 9780205609994: Cialdini, Robert: Books Check you local library first Your GC is on its way 😃 If you have questions just ask. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![High\_Tower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@High\_Tower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/High_Tower)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/8 "2008-10-07T02:02:03Z")
I think the suggestion of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) over A314 is excellent, now that I’ve had a closer look at them both. Instant Honesty over Instant Openness also is a step in the right direction, as I’m more worried about the depth of conversation as opposed to actually generating talk. Boss, I’m heavily considering ammo now too, cheers. I’ll also be checking out that first book you linked too Tish, so thanks again. I really appreciate the help and support you guys are offering. HT ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/9 "2008-10-07T06:44:51Z")
I’m in a similar boat. 28, lost my girl of 5.5 yrs, but she was the one not putting anything in the relationship. As a recent noob, take your time with whatever you choose. It’s true what the experts have said on these boards: the products take a bit of time to figure out how they work. More is not better 95% of the time in my cases. If I’m not seeing the effects, I’ve done something wrong: worn the wrong product in the wrong situation, wrong combination or worn too much or in the wrong spot or just plain behaved incorrectly. I would stay away from A314 for your first purchase, Tisha knows what she’s talking about. I had 2 very bad experiences with it at first because it’s a hard product to master. TUTH did not produce any visible impact on my ex and she’s not contacting me any more than before. Well, pretty much at all. It’s done miracles for impacting friends that had hidden things for me, or random girls I met while out. (I have claw marks from last weekend’s public makeout session.) If you decide you want to try it, go with regular strength and start slowly! Wear it when you’re on the prowl, and keep it away from non-sexual places like work and family oriented functions. I didn’t see much result with Instant Openess, but I think I need to give it another shot. I also didn’t see much with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), but I think that’s because “Heat” was overpowering it. Good luck to you. ---
**Author:** ![snakeeyesontheparadise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snakeeyesontheparadise/32/791_2.png) [@snakeeyesontheparadise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snakeeyesontheparadise)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/10 "2008-10-07T15:19:28Z")
ANOTHER AUSSIE!! haha, we really ARE taking this forum over now 😃 I’ve been through 2 different beakups in the past, I feel for u mate!, it’s never easy, but life will just have to go on. welcome to phero-land 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![High\_Tower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@High\_Tower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/High_Tower)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2008, 1:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/11 "2008-10-08T13:58:17Z")
Thanks for the sympathy snake, it’s honestly the single most painful period of my life. But I have a day to look forward to, and so far all the self improvement i’m trying to bring about is doing great. Almost solid order decision: Instant Shine Instant Gentleman (winning out over A314) [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Instant Honnesty AMMO (winning out over TUTH) Leaving me with 4 months to get my dosages right, dont want to blow it all on the night through ignorance heh. Any further thoughts? HT ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2008, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/12 "2008-10-10T10:50:04Z")
> [@High\_Tower](#): > > Thanks for the sympathy snake, it’s honestly the single most painful period of my life. Don’t be despair, dude! Like Snakeeye said _ **“it’s never easy, but life will just have to go on.”** _ Friends, lovers, health & wealth come and go just like the sea tide. There’s noting to be sad about if you are willing to accept the true meaning of life.🙂