# Newbie, and loving it

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 3, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055 "2011-07-03T08:12:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Leo\_JB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leo\_JB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leo_JB)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/1 "2011-07-03T08:12:33Z")

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Well, I’ve only recently started doing research on [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/).

believe it or not, it was a few hours ago, when I remembered the movie, Ocean’s 13 and the scene about Linus using “The Gilroy”, and thought, holy crap, I should check that out.  
to my dismay, it didn’t exist, but I sorta expected it, but there was a part of me that was really hoping it was real, lol.

then, the talk of pheromones was in one of the sites I had looked up “The Gilroy” on and so took a gander into it.

and now, merely a couple hours later, I’m here after looking at potential buys at amazon, only to see the ad about reading about Chiaka\* before I buy it, and low and behold, its the real deal.

so I’m glad there is a forum. I got tired of doing research and the websites that claim to be doing their study only promote the #1 product, while others have a completely different product as #1, and the previous product is no where in the top 5 list.  
only to find out most of these sites are being paid to do this and it makes researching so difficult.

but again, I’m really happy to be here and hear from actual customers.  
I feel more at ease and would like to truly buy what is right for me.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_JB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leo\_JB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leo_JB)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/2 "2011-07-03T08:16:42Z")

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Well, I realize I missed out answer most of my questions, so I’ll do that now.

My name is Leo, I’m 19 years  
and new into the field of pheromones.

I’m a bit on the overweight size and yeah, dating is a hassle.  
the extra edge is always nice.

Im in florida!

I’m a cool person to chill with as my friends say, but its hard to be social to pretty girls when every other one assumes you’re trying to get in their pants, when you really want to be friends.  
So, I’m hoping this site will guide me in the right dirrection to useful pheromones and I may have the extra confidence and hopeful get a bit more social attraction for the purpose to getting friends oppose to just getting with a crap load of women.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_JB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leo\_JB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leo_JB)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/3 "2011-07-03T08:19:55Z")

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as for my question(s)

probably, what are the most effective, products out there.

along with what are the more inexpensive, while still being effective.  
(I’ll take in to consideration that the cheaper product may not worth as well.)

and does NPA worth? its some sort of additive to your normal body fragrants that supposedly adds pheromones.

also, why is it these pheromones come in such small vials and expect us to pay so much?!

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**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/4 "2011-07-03T08:54:53Z")

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Hi, Leo.

Welcome on board.

I´ve been using mones for about 9 weeks, and I am having lots of fun with them.

For me, the most effective products have been [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant SHine and AMMO. You can get them in the small size (to go) and give them a try for almost nothing. Read this thread to know how to qualify for a gift from Androtics: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)

I have not tried NPA. Some users here seem to like it, but I think it´s a heavy androstenone product, and you are 19, chances are your body is producing enough -none naturally, so the risks of overdose are hig, i guess.  
Anyway, there are a lot of advanced users around that will be able to help you with that better tan me.

There are some useful threads that you should not miss.

Anyway, I´ll try to sugest you some intresting threds that you may enjoy reading:

[The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879)

[Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802)

[An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003)

[What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220)

[What works: CLUBBING/“PROWL” MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-clubbing-prowl-mixes-eg-sex-as-in-one-night-stands/224)

Read all of them a couple of times, take notes, and you´ll have a good base understanding how products work and what you should try first.

Hope this helps.

Talk to you soon.

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**Author:** ![ClintX2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ClintX2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ClintX2)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/5 "2011-07-03T09:06:05Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk Leo\_JB! ,

Probably, what are the most effective, products out there?  
**[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)** (makes people feel good), **A314** (alpha/leader/status) and **Ammunition** (Attraction social/sexy)

along with what are the more inexpensive, while still being effective.  
(I’ll take in to consideration that the cheaper product may not worth as well.)  
**Instant Shine Togo** , **Ammunition togo.**** Personally I feel that A314 is the most powerful product Androtics has pound for pound** – there is a reason it has a private section of the forum devoted to this product only. It has an Alpha/leader/status vibe to it-- If you are hesitant about making the jump to purchase a bottle you can always test the spray first. (Note though the A314 oil comes with a guarantee)

And does NPA worth? its some sort of additive to your normal body fragrants that supposedly adds pheromones.

also, why is it these pheromones come in such small vials and expect us to pay so much?!

NPA is not an Androtics product – I can’t tell you much about it.  
Its like you going to Dominoes and asking, “Are the bread sticks at Pizza Hut any good? And why is the pizza here so dang expensive!” 😛

These products work 🙂

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/6 "2011-07-03T09:37:14Z")

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Hi Leo,

welcome here on Pherotalk ,

stay away from NPA at your Age … o.k.  
and next point is … it´s very tricky do dose … !

Most of this “review sites” are pure advertising sites !  
Have you found any support or any information about dosage or use of the products or what they are supposed to do ? NOPE

AND … the most cost effictive product is the ones that works best for you !

the guys already gave you good advise and i´d like to add that you should read up on the stickies here and at the general men´s discussion !

because of what reason you want to use pheromones ?

where do you see your sticking points ?

Pago

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**Author:** ![Leo\_JB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leo\_JB](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leo_JB)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/7 "2011-07-04T06:51:41Z")

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I’d like to thank all three of you guys, and of course anyone else who replys to the thread.

I must say, I was a bit doubting that people would answer my question, lol.  
once again thanks.

I shall read the threads suggested and the stickies, and see what I feel comfortable with and try it out. hopefully I find something both affordable and effective.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/8 "2011-07-07T21:36:43Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Leo!

I am glad you are here and don’t make the weight get you down. Just like all of us you are a work in progress.

To become friends with the ladies and make them trust you I suggest :

Instant shine, IO and IH.

shine to give of that youthful happy vibe to draw them in like moths.

honesty to make them feel they can trust you and for deeper levels of conversation.

openness to break the ice and to ease you into conversation

To let the ladies know you are interested but not just for sex maybe an ltr I suggest you use

ammo for a confidence boast and to give off that strong , masculine vibe

A314 will come later when your confidence has been built and you get a good handle of what these products do.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**

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**Author:** ![marianinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@marianinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marianinja)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-loving-it/51055/9 "2011-07-24T04:28:51Z")

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Hello!  
I am a new user. and I was just wondering whats the [best pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) for females trying to attract a man?
