# Newbie, and overwhelmed **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 16, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675 "2008-09-16T18:09:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bmroberts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmroberts/32/524_2.png) [@bmroberts](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmroberts)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/1 "2008-09-16T18:09:22Z")
Here we go, first thanks for the sample of turn up the heat, and instant honesty!! I purchased ammunition and instant openness, so now I have 2 bottles and 2 samples and am like 😮! I know I want to try all of it at once but, I have read try one at a time, correct? Now some background on my situation, not yet divorced (waiting period in my state is 60 days) so just getting back into the dating world, turn up the heat I will keep away for now! I really just want to open up conversation/attraction. I don’t hang at clubs mostly just a sports bar, or even just going to the local stores! So what would you start with? Could you start with the instant openness and honesty at the same time or is it still best to keep those seperate at first? Thanks for your help! ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/2 "2008-09-16T18:26:59Z")
One at a time is best… I mean some people like to spray on a combo at the first go, and it’s not the end of the world if they do, but at some point you’ll want to know how each works individually. IO is 30/70 beta/alphanol IH is 30/70 alpha/betanol I know that some people wear them to different parts of the body, and they can expose them to create different effects. But if you mixed the two you’d get 50/50 alpha/betanol which I believe is the basis of yet another product CTTM. I would try the IO first, and then probably move onto the IH to get the deeper conversations going on later dates. But it depends on the people you’re interacting with too. ---
**Author:** ![savior1110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@savior1110](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/savior1110)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/3 "2008-09-16T19:11:11Z")
yea one at a time is best. I found ammo to be pretty good just by itself. As ntk said, you probably wanna try the instant openness first to get that initial openness while the ammo would give you that attraction. ---
**Author:** ![bmroberts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmroberts/32/524_2.png) [@bmroberts](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmroberts)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/4 "2008-09-16T20:07:26Z")
thanks guys appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![savior1110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@savior1110](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/savior1110)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/5 "2008-09-17T03:10:58Z")
no problem if you need more help pm me. i’m still new myself but ill help you the best i can =D ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2008, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-and-overwhelmed/19675/6 "2008-09-17T03:25:44Z")
I’m a newb using IO on my wrists/arms, and TUTH on my neck where appropriate. I’ve had pretty decent success. It’s not like I have women climbing all over me, but IO by itself hasn’t given me much luck. TUTH seems to have made a big difference.