# Newbie Checking In! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [February 2, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207 "2011-02-02T21:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Eldavar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Eldavar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldavar)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/1 "2011-02-02T21:39:54Z")
Good afternoon everyone! I placed my first order 2 days ago, and it arrived this morning right on time. I must say, I haven’t tried the products yet but I’m already impressed by the order processing & shipment speed. The hand-written note and free trial sized bottle was unexpected and much appreciated. I’ve been interested in pheromones and their legitimate use in everyday life for many years, but I never actually bought anything until just now. I read too many poor reviews and visited too many hyped up amateur websites. It’s only been within the past several weeks that my interest was renewed, and here’s why… I’ve been married to the same wonderful woman for nearly ten years, and we’re suddenly at a very precarious place in our relationship. I love her deeply and want nothing more than for us to stay together. However, she recently admitted to me that she’s been unhappy for awhile and has been seeking attention from other men to make her feel better about herself. It’s one of those common situations I’ve heard about dozens of times - you love your wife, you tell her all the time, you truly believe that she’s beautiful and you are attracted to her, but no matter how much you tell her or how hard you try to show her that she’s beautiful, she just doesn’t believe you. Many women end up feeling like that because they start to dismiss your compliments thinking that you’re only saying it because you want sex, or because you’re somehow obligated to say it. I want my wife to feel attracted to me again, and to feel comfortable talking with me. We haven’t really talked in a long time, and that lack of communication is what I think has led to her feeling unhappy and unattractive. So, I bought Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. I hope that if I start wearing them when we’ll be spending some time together, she’ll feel more comfortable opening up and talking with me about how she feels. If I get the $25 gift cert, I’m thinking about using that toward a bottle of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) or TUTH, but I’m not sure which one yet. Maybe I’ll just buy both and see how it goes! If anyone has any advice or suggestions, let me hear them! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/2 "2011-02-02T22:11:37Z")
> [@Eldavar](#): > > Good afternoon everyone! I placed my first order 2 days ago, and it arrived this morning right on time. I must say, I haven’t tried the products yet but I’m already impressed by the order processing & shipment speed. The hand-written note and free trial sized bottle was unexpected and much appreciated. > > I’ve been interested in pheromones and their legitimate use in everyday life for many years, but I never actually bought anything until just now. I read too many poor reviews and visited too many hyped up amateur websites. It’s only been within the past several weeks that my interest was renewed, and here’s why… > > I’ve been married to the same wonderful woman for nearly ten years, and we’re suddenly at a very precarious place in our relationship. I love her deeply and want nothing more than for us to stay together. However, she recently admitted to me that she’s been unhappy for awhile and has been seeking attention from other men to make her feel better about herself. > > It’s one of those common situations I’ve heard about dozens of times - you love your wife, you tell her all the time, you truly believe that she’s beautiful and you are attracted to her, but no matter how much you tell her or how hard you try to show her that she’s beautiful, she just doesn’t believe you. > > Many women end up feeling like that because they start to dismiss your compliments thinking that you’re only saying it because you want sex, or because you’re somehow obligated to say it. > > I want my wife to feel attracted to me again, and to feel comfortable talking with me. We haven’t really talked in a long time, and that lack of communication is what I think has led to her feeling unhappy and unattractive. > > So, I bought Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. I hope that if I start wearing them when we’ll be spending some time together, she’ll feel more comfortable opening up and talking with me about how she feels. If I get the $25 gift cert, I’m thinking about using that toward a bottle of Instant Gentleman or TUTH, but I’m not sure which one yet. Maybe I’ll just buy both and see how it goes! > > If anyone has any advice or suggestions, let me hear them! Thanks! Hi Eldevar and welcome to the mone phorum!!! You got it right with your choices… I would say that the IH and IO communication 1,2 will grease your intimate convo’s with your wife. I know what you mean about telling her you love her, but, she’s not feeling it… even though you show it, buy her little things, send her cute texts, but… somehow, not getting through. I’ve been married more that 10 years and yes, your description isn’t a good place to be. I’d say, get the IG NOT the TUTH. If she thinks you have only sex on your mind, TUTH will not MAKE her want it. It will only be an amplifier of that thought… IG or A314 /b would be good to get her to feel a pronounced respect and feel that you ARE in charge, an Alpha. You will need to be in congruence with that vibe, but the good thing is that many have these same self effects and helps with showing the Alpha male vibe. An LTR will look to you for protection and confidence that you will be there for her… Thanks for posting and hope things go well!!! We are here to help each other out! ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/3 "2011-02-02T22:54:52Z")
I agree. The TUTH could come in handy one day, but I’d avoid all sexual tones with her. IH is the best imho. Just love on her and talk with her. Ask about her dreams and where she wants to go! ---
**Author:** ![Eldavar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Eldavar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldavar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/4 "2011-02-03T00:49:05Z")
Thanks for the comments and suggestions. She just called and said she’ll be leaving from work in about a half hour. That means she’ll be home in a little over an hour. I’ve been reading up trying to get ideas about how long this stuff lasts, how early to put it on, etc. From other posts I’ve read, it sounds like putting it on between a half hour and an hour before you plan to be around whoever you want to feel the effects is good. Would you agree? And most people are saying that with 1 or 2 sprays, the effects typically last from 2 to 4 hours. Yes? So, I’m thinking I’ll put 2 sprays of the IO and 1 spray of the IH on my wrists in just a few minutes. Because I’ve never used this stuff before, I don’t want to risk overdoing it either. I’m hoping it helps, even if just a little… I want her to feel more comfortable talking with me, and I’d like to hear what’s been on her mind so I can help her to start feeling better about herself (which should ultimately lead to her feeling better about US!). ---
**Author:** ![Eldavar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Eldavar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldavar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/5 "2011-02-03T09:51:19Z")
Ok, so here’s some feedback about the effects the IO and IH had on my wife last night. I’m wondering if maybe I didn’t use enough of them because there really wasn’t any big noticeable difference in her behavior or willingness to talk. We spent a few hours together, and alot of that time we were physically right next to each other, so I’m sure she took in the sprays that I put on. But she made no attempts to initiate any conversation, nor did she seem any more or less comfortable around me than usual. However, there was a brief moment, maybe ten minutes or so, where I gently urged her to talk with me and she actually did open up just a little bit. She told me a few things that I would not have expected her to tell me. It wasn’t much, but it was more than I expected. I guess this _could have_ been an effect of the sprays, but I’m not sure. I plan to try again the next time we will be close together, and I’ll use more of both sprays. What do I have to lose? I paid for this stuff right? I might as well use it! Maybe she needs a stronger dose on me before it works on her. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/6 "2011-02-04T00:32:57Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Eldvar! I am sorry to hear what you are going through. I am sure your wife believes you but after a while of marriage she probably feels that you will find her attractive even if she is wearing plastic bags and that your love for her may be clouding if she still is attractive or not. I am not married but I feel like that sometimes in my relationship. I don’t get tired of hearing I love you and that am attractive but I want to know that he will let me know if I am letting myself go and it’s not become just a formality to say so. I would not seek attention from other guys as I feel that can be dangerous but I do go over board with ensuring I look good everyday even for our webcam dates. 😛 Oddly enough withdrawing some of the attention from me has gotten me being more affectionate and giving him more attention and the tables have turned. When he was all over me 24/7 I took it for granted. I suggested you use these mones to send out the signals to the wifey but hold back a bit and let her come to you. Not to judge or anything but she needs to realize what she got. Let us know how it all turned out. **Your gc was issued! 😃** ---
**Author:** ![Eldavar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac8455/32.png) [@Eldavar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldavar)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/7 "2011-02-05T12:39:43Z")
Ok people, it’s been several days, so I wanted to give some feedback and a progress update. So far, I’m not seeing ANY results or effects from either the IH or IO or the two combined together. Last night was the third time I put them on knowing that we’d be spending some time together and be very close to each other. Last night, I put on 4 sprays of IO and 3 sprays of IH. My wife and I spent over an hour in the car, but she didn’t seem even the least bit interested in talking about anything at all, let alone opening up and being honest with me. After our car ride home, we sat on our couch next to each other and watched a little TV. Again, she made no initial attempt to begin talking with me, she didn’t appear any more comfortable with me, and she brushed me off when I made an attempt to start a conversation. I’m starting to feel like I just wasted my money here. I figure I’ll use my gift certificate toward a bottle of IG or maybe A314, and if that also doesn’t show some kind of results then I’ll stop wasting my time and money. ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-checking-in/46207/8 "2011-02-05T15:42:56Z")
You aren’t combining them together are you? I think that the balance between betanol and androstenol is different in both IO and IH which is why they are two different products. Using them together at the same time might be throwing things off. Mones aren’t magic by themselves. XD Did you ask her what was on her mind? Or try luring her in with something personal on your mind. Sometimes you have to put yourself out there. Ask for advice. Or really, if it gets down to it, tell her you’re concerned about your relationship and ask what you can do to make things better. 🙂 Also, different pheroclouds take some time to pick up on with someone who’s known you for a while. They’re still registering the old impression. It might take some time.