# Newbie from overseas saying hi

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [April 13, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241 "2012-04-13T17:05:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![scorpio66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@scorpio66](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scorpio66)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/1 "2012-04-13T17:05:39Z")

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I am a real estate agent from Germany, in my early 30s. By now, I’ve had only little experience with [pheromones](https://a314.com/). I have used some mones from other companies with some success but as I am open to new things I would like to give Androtics a try 🙂. Being rather doubtful about pheromones as German websites are selling a lot of scam products, I was searching the web for more sophisticated products with real reviews. I googled and came across Pherotalk.

Personally I am looking for something that makes me more outgoing and social while improving my interactions with women. Something that could help me make conversations flirty and sexy without being too intimidating on young women. Also I no longer want to be seen as the “nice guy”.

So far my introduction, maybe you have some suggestions of what products could work for me. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/2 "2012-04-13T17:21:13Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk! 🙂

I hope you will soon find this place to be the best of all!

As you are looking to keep the interest of younger women, I’d suggest you steer away from the overt none and heavy status products like TUTH, IJ and A314 - All of these are most likely to repel younger women (mid 20s and below) but you do get the odd exceptions.

For a fun/social and broad-based attraction, I would suggest you look at Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IO and IG.

Ammo - All round sexy/social/masculine mix of none, nol and rone - good for all sorts of social/dating situations.

Instant Shine - Gives a happy/feelgood and socially confident air to your interactions. Goes superbly with Ammo for one of the best attraction mixes.

IO - Mix of nols that helps promote flowing conversation - A great icebreaker and also goes well with Ammo/IS.

IG - Rone-based, smooth suave status mix that is not as opressive/standoffish/dad-like to younger women.

Saying all that, TUTH, moderated with IO is a good mix for more sexually charged places like clubs and to have on hand for when things turn very sexual. Also A314 oil would be a superb workplace phero for someone in your line.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 8:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/3 "2012-04-14T08:42:36Z")

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Hi there scorpio, welcome to the forum. For your uses, I’d say that AMMO would be an Excellent mone that is well balanced for attraction. I like the Sexy Man vibe I get when I wear it. Though, the cologne strength may be a bit much if your not used to colognes, as was my case.

I do like mobo’s explainer on the other mones and I’d suggest AMMO and IShine or IO in combination to get others to Want to Talk and get to know you. 🙂

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**Author:** ![redlion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@redlion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/redlion)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/4 "2012-04-14T16:23:16Z")

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Hello Scorpio, welcome to the forums!

There are a lot of pheromone companies out there, some legitimate, some not so much. In my short experience with the industry, I’ve found maybe one other company that could come close to Androtics’ quality level, and they’re still a distant second to AD. They’re that good. Users here are actually very scientific with their use of pheromones (for the most part anyway 😛) and the fact that AD products are accurately and reliably dosed makes such experimentation easier.

I’m afraid I have to echo Alpha1 and mobo on which pheromones to recommend you, they’re spot on. Ammo is great for younger women (and in moderate to strong doses, older women too) and is a great base product to layer your mixes with. Just last night I went to a bar wearing two sprays of Ammo and a little IO (my bottle is almost empty ☹ ) and a girl and her _mom_ hit on me all night. I can’t say I encouraged it at all besides saying hello and smiling when they looked at me. Very eye opening experience.

Anyway, for the outgoing bit of your mix, you should consider IO, IS or p74. Now, normally we don’t recommend putatives to new users - they’re a little more temperamental than the commercial “instant” line, but p74 is a very interesting compound which really seems to promote social interaction. Fair warning and disclaimer though - the instant line has a ridiculous money back guarantee. The other pheromone lines (putatives, experimones, MXs) are not fully developed and tested - buy these at your own risk and expense! That’s not to say they won’t have noticeable effects - just that their effects haven’t been narrowed down to a specific conception like the commercial products. eg, IS basically works the same for everyone, but putatives sometimes (even often) have divergent results.

Well! I think we’ve bombarded you with enough info. Feel free to ask any questions you might have, and please do read around the forums a bit. This is first and foremost a research forum, so there’s always discussion and reports on the latest pheros. Have fun 🙂

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**Author:** ![scorpio66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@scorpio66](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scorpio66)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/5 "2012-04-17T04:59:23Z")

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Thank you guys for the suggestions, very informative. It sounds like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS/IO and maybe P74 might give me what I am looking for 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-overseas-saying-hi/55241/6 "2012-04-17T15:57:59Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Scorpio!

That is interesting but we do get a shit load of men come on the forum not wanting to be the nice guy or more accurately fall into the friend zone.

Pheromones alone can’t assist with that but the men definitely can and you will see what they have to say when you start mingling in the men section.

_ **Your gc was issued!** _
