# Newbie from Uk...

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [May 18, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784 "2008-05-18T19:12:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/1 "2008-05-18T19:12:09Z")

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Hey everyone,

Joe, 21 from the UK. I’m an absolute newb to all this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) stuff but very, very interesting. Already read Snook’s sticky post which helped explain a lot as well as some of the info from Tisha which has helped get me up to speed a little.

Anyway i have just started in a new workplace with an abundance of young women and very very few guys. I guess i’m looking for a few pointers to get me started in this kind of environment, maybe help create a little attraction/competition among my female co-workers 😃

Instant honesty, instant shine and instant female magic all seem like the right kind of starting place but would appreciate some advice/pointers.

Oh and its good to be here, thanks for the help 🙂

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**Author:** ![NormaJeanMarilyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/normajeanmarilyn/32/586_2.png) [@NormaJeanMarilyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NormaJeanMarilyn)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/2 "2008-05-18T19:12:48Z")

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OMG! Welcome…I LOVE Bugattis. I will come to your thread just to see your name…LMAOOOOO

J/K…

Thanks for all the info, it really helps us to tell you what you need. I would say some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to start would be good, but I am not sure about A314, though. I’ve been told that is for the “big boys”. I would say that the shopping list you already have is perfect. But the more advanced posters will be in soon to comment.

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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/3 "2008-05-18T19:14:26Z")

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Thanks muchly, thats a good start…

\>\>\> Wonders how hard it is to change name by deed poll??\<\<\<\<\<

😃

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/4 "2008-05-18T19:17:22Z")

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Hello Bugatti!

Snook’s posts really helped me a lot, and I am really glad that he came back after almost half of a year of absence! Look for his new posts that are equally helpful!

I like IO better than any other social products, including cttm, which is a mix between io and ih. IO has much better results with new people. They are more talkative and respond better to any chattings.

Don’t forget ammo too, this is a signature product from androtics! Very good attraction product. With this you will have a good edge on the competition you are talking about!

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**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/5 "2008-05-18T19:22:10Z")

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Hi Joe, welcome to the forums.

Shine, Honesty and Instant Female magic are all very good choices.  
What is your work environment like? Is it very carefree, or is it the typical mundane cubicles? I hear the workplaces in Europe are a lot more relaxed and liberal that here in the US.

You can also try [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). It will give you a mature, worldly, “cool” vibe and it can also give you a little bit of respect.  
If you’re shy, you can also try Instant Openness as it’s self effects may help you talk more.

Do you deal with customers at all? Are you in retail? What kind of work do you do? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get a better idea of your environment so I can give you better advice.

Hope that helped and if you have questions, there’s tons of people here who are willing to help.

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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/6 "2008-05-18T19:28:04Z")

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Thanks mockingbird, definatly some interesting info on the instant openness, i think in certain situations that could be very useful.

Hi Zeph, i’m naturally a confident/bit cocky chap and have made my mark there (good or bad 😕 😃) but the girls are quite shy and sometimes are reluctant to be chatty/flirty with me (almost seems like i make them nervous in a completely non-stalker type way lol 😉)

Its a relaxed enviro your right compared to what I know of US cubicle type workplaces, it involves a lot of face to face contact with customers in a purely customer services, leisure scenario rather than sales role.

I think im probably perceived as more of a mature worldly guy and would prefer something that allows people to feel more open to chatting with me openly.

Thanks for the advice so far.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/7 "2008-05-18T21:49:47Z")

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Hello Joe

Welcome to Pherotalk 😃

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is going to be a god send to you in a all female enviroment.

Instant Openness and Instant Shine will be great as well to start out with.

I do suggest you look into A314, Its the trust respect alpha pheromone mix. Its sexy but not sexual if that makes sense. People will treat you better and be more helpful. It can attract women as well because alot of women are attracted to the Alpha but you wont have to act on that attraction unless you want to.

If you have any questions just ask, I am here to help.

😃 **Your GC will be in your email box shortly** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/8 "2008-05-18T21:57:52Z")

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hmm you can try reading this thread: **ChaseEmALL Journal** ([ChaseEmALL Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chaseemall-journal/9450))  
Its a journal from one of our users who works in retail.

If you’re going for that fun, lighthearted aura, then Shine, Openness, and CTTM2 work well. The female magic you were thinking of will help put the women you work with at ease. If you’re worried about dealing with irate customers, you can try A314 to get their respect.

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**Author:** ![NormaJeanMarilyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/normajeanmarilyn/32/586_2.png) [@NormaJeanMarilyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NormaJeanMarilyn)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/9 "2008-05-19T02:40:56Z")

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Great suggestion, zeph. I second (or third or fourth) the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and Openness.

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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/10 "2008-05-19T16:56:23Z")

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Just another q in case any one checks this post out, there seems to be a lot of differing views so far on adding cologne to the mix, personally im a big fan of scents and have a large collection that i dont want to stop using.

Whats the best advice on using these and phero’s?

Thanks for all the advice so far, J.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/11 "2008-05-19T19:46:37Z")

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The consumer products are not for mixing with your own scent. They where made as stand alone products so there is no need to mix them with cologne or other mixes in the same bottle.

You layer and then if you want cover with a cologne. They neroli scent is only strong till it drys down which is 10 minutes or so.

If you mix them you dilute them and this will lessen the effectiveness of them.

If you dilute them and they no longer work your guarantee is void.

Also mixing them leaves little veratility with the products. Basically your stuck with what you have mixed. Layering you can change things around when needed.

Unless someone uses the word composite then they are talking about layering unless they are they clearly state otherwise. Some of the experienced members do something composite even with the consumers but they have had alot of experience with those products first.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/12 "2008-05-19T20:15:22Z")

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Thanks for that Tisha, thats just cleared it up for me. 🙂

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**Author:** ![NormaJeanMarilyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/normajeanmarilyn/32/586_2.png) [@NormaJeanMarilyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NormaJeanMarilyn)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/13 "2008-05-19T21:02:06Z")

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OMG…did you put that avatar up there for me?😉

J/K

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**Author:** ![Bugatti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bugatti/32/1617_2.png) [@Bugatti](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bugatti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/14 "2008-05-19T21:22:34Z")

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You know, i think i wont bother with these phero’s now, I’ll just walk round with a bugatti pic stapled to my back 🆒

… nah actually phero’s it is… i dont want to start attracting the weird car lover girls 😉

J/K 😃

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**Author:** ![NormaJeanMarilyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/normajeanmarilyn/32/586_2.png) [@NormaJeanMarilyn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NormaJeanMarilyn)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-from-uk/12784/15 "2008-05-19T21:34:34Z")

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ROLFMAOOOOOOO.

Nah, I just like cars. Always have. But I will have my own Bugatti one day…after I get my Aston Martin. I drive stick (CARS!!!) quite well…better than most men.
