# Newbie! Need some tips! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 4, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-need-some-tips/10772 "2008-04-04T13:43:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saskradio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@saskradio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/saskradio)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-need-some-tips/10772/1 "2008-04-04T13:43:26Z")
Alright! I am new to this forum and I need some tips on pheros. I am 22, 6’4, white, above average looking, i’m a radio DJ. So here is what i’m looking for. I am very good when it comes to women, once I get an opportunity. My issue is picking up women, at bars and such. Somewhat timid and cannot seem to approach women anymore. My goal with pheros is to help in this process. My other reason is a little more complicated, but I believe it can be at least “helped” in this situation. Basicially what the deal is, I dated a girl I worked with for 10 months. First time I actually loved someone. I broke up with her last October because I was confused as to where we were heading, sometimes even the most positive emotions can be confusing. I also changed jobs at the time, hours were drastically changed, my parents were also splitting up at the time, basicially things in my personal life were turned upside down for a while. Anyways, I broke things off with her, but we both knew deep down that we would get back together. We continued to see each other on and off, slept together, etc… This Feb I realized that I wanted to get back together with her (keep in mind, for the time we were broken up she desperatly wanted to get back together). Just as I figured this out, she started seeing someone new…I was beyond devistated, still am. Here is the problem, she is 24, turning 25, and she started dating a 19 year old guy who she met at some rave party. She still has feelings for me. I told her that if this is how it is going to be, then I cannot be friends with her, we must only communicate in a work-related manner, no personal stuff. For some reason though she cannot seem to do this, she is OBSESSED with being close to me, still comes to be with personal stuff, even though I tell her that she has a new boyfriend now, so she should come to him with that stuff. Just doesn’t seem to get it. Cannot go a day at work without talking to me about something NOT work related…which makes me more aware that she still has feelings. This relationship has gone on for a month and a half now, everyone says that it’s amazing it’s lasted this long (he even has the same name as me!). This girl wants to have a long term relationship, someone she can marry. I don’t see this being it. She even lies to all of our co-workers about his age, says he’s 21 (trust me, he’s 19, she told me, and I have female friends who graduated with him) So this is what I want. Something so that when she comes and talks to me, she feels even more. I have gotten my shit in order and I am ready for her. Lets be honest here, how many 19 year old guys are ready for marriage? with a 24 year old girl? I also want to mentally move on in case the 1 in a million chance that they work out…happens. Enough rambelling. Here is what I want…I want to move on, I want to start dating again, but at the same time I want to have a subtle effect on her so that she starts getting feelings back for me (since she sees me EVERY DAY). Tips? By the way, I am going to make an order off of this site soon, once I get reccomendations from you guys. BUT, I did order some pheros last week from Love-scent (this was before I discovered this site). I just got in: SOE unscented, Chikara unscented, and The Edge Unscented. What can I do with these until I order something from this site? Recomendations? Last thing, the problem I think we have is that I am a nice guy, but when I got my new DJ job and broke with her, she thought I became cocky and I said some mean stuff. This is not like me, and not what she fell in love with. I have changed so much, and I want her to see that. Thanks guys/girls. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-need-some-tips/10772/2 "2008-04-04T22:33:46Z")
Please read [My stupid newbie tricks](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/my-stupid-newbie-tricks/6369/1) This will help you a lot. I am also a noob but a combo that really helped me out was: Mix: 2 drops A314 2 sprays [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) 1 spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2x 1 spray [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2x 1 spray [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2x Good luck ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-need-some-tips/10772/3 "2008-04-04T23:03:13Z")
Saskradio, You’ve already got some good products. I’m not a user of L-S stuff but I’ve thought about getting some because they have a good reputation. I would say before you order from Androtics give those a good testing period and see if you start having results then when you get some stuff from here you’ll have a good part of the learning curve behind you. There are some good posts on those products. Do an advanced search and be sure to check search posts instead of threads. There is also this post every newbie should read- > [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558): > > A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati…