# Newbie :P **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 16, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173 "2006-12-16T14:00:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/1 "2006-12-16T14:00:07Z")
Hi, I’ve just signed up to this site, after reading a far bit of reviews. I must say im intrested to try it myself. First off bit about myself. Im 18 and i’ve just starting getting into the nightclub/pub scenes. I’m intrested in some type of mix that would get a lot of attention from girls around my age ( mostly after sexual/affection ) 😉 I’ve looked around and i have seen that turn up the heat is popular in this department, i am curious to see what else would be a good mix to go with this, can any1 help me. Maybe somthin like were they would approach me? I dont want to spend a fortune on all types, i just wanna keep it to maybe 2 types that go well together for what im after? Sorry this prob been asked a lot. Thanks anyway. ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/2 "2006-12-16T15:50:49Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > Hi, > > I’ve just signed up to this site, after reading a far bit of reviews. I must say im intrested to try it myself. First off bit about myself. > > Im 18 and i’ve just starting getting into the nightclub/pub scenes. I’m intrested in some type of mix that would get a lot of attention from girls around my age ( mostly after sexual/affection ) 😉 > > I’ve looked around and i have seen that turn up the heat is popular in this department, i am curious to see what else would be a good mix to go with this, can any1 help me. Maybe somthin like were they would approach me? I dont want to spend a fortune on all types, i just wanna keep it to maybe 2 types that go well together for what im after? > > Sorry this prob been asked a lot. Thanks anyway. Helix, hi and Welcome , Regarding Turn up the heat it would be good to apply in a club setting and around women who are interested in sexual activity as they would pick up on this one in a positive way, Another good and popular one to use would also be Ammunition and would be one of my first choices for clubbing ect, And again if you needed to feel more confident some Instant shine would be a must have, Otherwise just for the sake of coming across as attractive and approachable to a broader spectrum of females then Ammunition and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) seem like two good ones. You will undoubtedly get some really good advice on this forum, especially from men around your age who are familiar with the Androtics range of products as well as other popular preferances, So good luck with your choices and see what works for your particular chemistry, As you are sure to have a lot of fun as you discover what gives you the best hits. 🙂 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/3 "2006-12-16T16:05:07Z")
Hi, thanks. just wondering ammo + turn up the heat wouldn’t that be like overkill lol but yea good suggestions. I’d like to see what else ppl have to offer or ammo and IS looks pretty good. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/4 "2006-12-16T20:53:09Z")
Hey Helix, I’m a newbie just like you, but today I made my first purchases. I went with Ammunition as opposed to [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) mainly because based on what I read, TUTH May have a negative impact on males (be a bit of a downer). Ammunition seems to be more of a general purpose pickup tool. I guess I’ll know more when my shipment arrives! ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/5 "2006-12-17T01:20:07Z")
thanks for the info. i dont really care about negative impact from males, i’m a pretty big guy in muscle wise so yea 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/6 "2006-12-17T02:26:16Z")
Hiya Helix I went ahead and moved this thread over to the introductions forum so you could get a $15 gift voucher just for introducing yourself! 😛 > [@helix](#): > > thanks for the info. i dont really care about negative impact from males, i’m a pretty big guy in muscle wise so yea 😃 Helix, my dear, this is precisely why I **wouldn’t** recommend TUTH to you. You’re probably pumping out far too much of the molecule Androstenone (which TUTH is based on) as it is. I would recommend IFM and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to you. Girls seem to be really attracted and comfortable around IFM. Shine just really brightens you up. It punches up your presence. Give them a shot in the to go size to see how you like them. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/7 "2006-12-17T02:39:53Z")
Thanks. Im actually going to get is and ifm i’ve been looking around and they seem to go well 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/8 "2006-12-17T02:42:50Z")
> [@Chas](#): > > Hey Helix, > I’m a newbie just like you, but today I made my first purchases. I went with Ammunition as opposed to Turn Up the Heat mainly because based on what I read, Turn Up The Heat May have a negative impact on males (be a bit of a downer). Ammunition seems to be more of a general purpose pickup tool. > > I guess I’ll know more when my shipment arrives! Turn Up The Heat is not a downer to men. The androstenone component makes them more aggressive (starting with you; i.e., you’ll become more forward). That can happen with Ammunition cologne, too, but the androstenone aspect is more muted. Overall, it is quite a bit softer and more balanced. The occasional downer you’re speaking of is really [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). You can say that it’s “good magic” on most women, and “bad magic” on some men. Although you do get used to it, you should be careful with IFM when you first try that that out, in case you do respond in a less than positive manner. You should, of course, and never apply it near your own nose. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/9 "2006-12-17T02:48:03Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > Thanks. > > Im actually going to get Instant Shine and Instant Female Magic i’ve been looking around and they seem to go well 🙂 Helix, Instant Shine and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) sound like good choices for you. When you workout, you make a lot of androstenone, anyway. (is that what you mean by big guy?) When you first get them, try the Instant Shine first, without IFM. If you’re a responder (70-80% of people are), you’ll like it almost immediately. Remember, your first reaction to it is how most people will feel around you when exposed – bright and happy. On the other hand, the IFM will work nicely from what you’ve said so far. Sometimes the big guys are intimidating to women. It’ll help make you accessible. Just be sure to apply it away from your own nose – on the wrists is a good spot. The closest it should go to your head is a spray to the back of the neck. It might put you in a dour mood at first, but it has the opposite effect on women. Most men get used to it over time (stop responding), while most women feel like a big cupcake around you. The combo of Instant Shine + Instant Female Magic will effect them in a very uplifting way, the likes of which you won’t be able to feel yourself. Also, using Instant Shine near your own nose (on the neck, top of head, chest, etc.) can help to counteract some of the self-effects of the IFM. ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/10 "2006-12-17T02:48:19Z")
How should i go applying [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and is for first time? and to which areas? edit : soz jsut posted that liek 2 secs before u posted yours hehe. How much would a good starter amount be for both? and yes buy big guy i mean i go to gym and stuff ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/11 "2006-12-17T02:54:03Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > How should i go applying Instant Female Magic and Instant Shine for first time? and to which areas? (read the above, I’ve made edits while you were writing this) Use them separately at first, so you get to know their individual nature. Use the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) first. Apply the Instant Shine to your neck, chest, top of your head, and/or top of your hands. Those are all of the best spots for this product. Apply the IFM to your wrists or back of neck. Areas away from your own nose. If you’re a non-responder, or once you stop responding yourself, you can try the same areas as you’d put Instant Shine. You can also use Instant Shine near your nose to reduce any self-effects IFM might initially have. ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/12 "2006-12-17T03:04:35Z")
thanks for ya help harris how much of a spray of each tho? just 1 will be enough? ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/13 "2006-12-17T03:14:58Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > thanks for ya help harris how much of a spray of each tho? just 1 will be enough? You’re welcome. As to the dose, it’s sort of like salt on your food. It depends on your body chemistry and preferences. Our target for most products is 3 sprays for best effects (the “sweet spot”). Of course, that’s not the sweet spot for everyone, since not everyone is the same. It’s a midline that allows you to move up and down based on your own biology and preferences. Honestly, you probably won’t need 3 sprays of IFM in most circumstances, if applied to a highly diffusive spot on your body. It won’t hurt (I’ve gotten some of my aggressive responsers from women at 4-5 sprays), but it’s a very strong product. 1 will often be fine. In fact, I’ve considered lowering the dosage of this product because it is so strong. A little less strength would make it more male friendly, while still working it’s comfort magic on women. Personally, I like about 3 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). If I don’t use it regularly (so I don’t lose the self-effect by overexposure), it makes me feel GREAT, which makes me very aggressive when it comes to being social and making others feel good. Occasionally, I’ll get a really awkward hit from a stranger at that level (crowding/utter invasion of personal body space; especially from younger people who have less self-control), but Instant Shine really _shines_ when I’m being social (I only have 1 to 2 days a week at tops that I can spend at friends, or drop by a bar for an hour or so, since I’m so busy). With Instant Shine, as I’m viewed as the “feel good”, “happy that you’re here” type of guy, and this has a great impact. For _me_, that is. Without pheromones, I’m often viewed as too serious or logical, so you can imagine how personally useful it is for a person like me. It makes the little time I have to be truly social much more valuable. “Quality time”, you could say. Since it has a generalized uplifting and energetic effect, it’s really great product for most people, although they’ll all have their own personal reasons as to why. ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/14 "2006-12-17T03:31:40Z")
ah ok well i guess i will just experiment with types of dosages see how it goes. Thanks 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/15 "2006-12-17T10:57:50Z")
well i have ordered ifm and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) hopefully they get here before xmas, cant wait to try it out hope it was worth it. Hows the shipping on these items? i live in australia so might take a while, as i said hopefully before xmas ☹ ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/16 "2006-12-17T11:28:48Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > well i have ordered Instant Female Magic and Instant Shine hopefully they get here before xmas, cant wait to try it out hope it was worth it. Hows the shipping on these items? i live in australia so might take a while, as i said hopefully before xmas ☹ Thanks for giving them a try. They seem like they’ll be good choices for you. Is it hot in your area of Australia right now, btw? Unless I’ve gone daft, I think it’s sort of the Australian summer, isn’t it? If so, you may want your [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) “weather proofed” a little. Send in a Contact Us message from the store to get us to do that. It can make a key and important difference in how the product works for you. Shipping right now depends on the method chosen. Normal USPS (US Post Office) shipping – whether it’s First Class/Priority here intra-US or Global Priority mail internationally – is given lowest priority by the post office right now. Sadly, it takes the post office about a week to get a package from California to California during the holiday season. This is **not** the way to go if you want your package fast during the holidays. During non-peak season, GPM (Global Priority Mail) can be ok. Some parts of Australia get GPM packages in as little as a week. The average is about 1-2. I’ve heard that one particular area can be awnry, but it’s name escapes me. Jasmin would be better able to tell you, since she’s in constant contact with customers regarding delivery speed. (I’m just the resident visionary and meta-planner. She has a better idea of what goes on day to day.) Global Express Mail, on the other hand, seems to be getting to destinations in about 3-5 days (even now). Then there’s customs delays, which depend on your local government. This _might_ get it to you before Christmas. I’d say that is has a decent chance. It’s also fully tracked, which is re-assuring. FedEx usually takes no more than 3 days. They also somehow speed through customs in just a few hours in most countries. They’re so fast dealing with customs compared to other methods, I’m seriously starting to think they grease some palms (bribe, in case you don’t have that phrase in Oz). God knows they can afford it, with what they charge! (they charge us a lot more than we charge you) The only problems with the more expensive forms of shipping, is that countries are far more apt to tax you. With GPM, you can sometimes slide under the radar. I don’t know the exact situation in Australia, but that’s a bigger problem in some countries than others. For instance, Canada has astonishingly high local taxes that they sometimes apply to foreign shipments, so it’s a sad day when they can’t get around them. In the US, we usually don’t pay more than 5%. For this reason, customs often lets the package go at 0%. I honestly can’t remember the last time I paid a duty on a package. There’s a few Aussies on the forum, so maybe they can fill you in on the rest of this… ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/17 "2006-12-17T11:38:28Z")
Hi, I’ve ordered by - ostal Global Priority Airmail _Fully Insured_: 3-15 Days Average (Free w/Orders over $100) And yes it is hot in australia now, i will send a email about your weather proof as u said. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/18 "2006-12-17T13:30:18Z")
> [@Helix](#): > > Hi, > > I’ve ordered by - > > ostal Global Priority Airmail _Fully Insured_: 3-15 Days Average (Free w/Orders over $100) > > And yes it is hot in australia now, i will send a email about your weather proof as u said. > > Thanks. Ok, good. We’ll give you an [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) modified for hot weather. Wow, you’re so succint about shipping. Sorry about writing you a book about holiday shipping earlier. This is a major reason why I sometimes don’t like to participate on the forum – I’m a long form thinker, and therefore I’m often long winded. Probably needlessly, quite a bit of the time! :o You may want to upgrade to Global Express Mail. That’s the cheapest upgrade that’ll give you a great chance of receiving the package before Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![Chas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chas/32/1042_2.png) [@Chas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Chas)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/19 "2006-12-17T13:37:39Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > The combo of Instant Shine + Instant Female Magic will effect them in a very uplifting way, the likes of which you won’t be able to feel yourself. > > Also, using Instant Shine near your own nose (on the neck, top of head, chest, etc.) can help to counteract some of the self-effects of the Instant Female Magic. You’re making me feel like i made a mistake choosing Ammunition over [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) ☹ > [@MHarris](#): > > This is a major reason why I sometimes don’t like to participate on the forum – I’m a long form thinker, and therefore I’m often long winded. Probably needlessly, quite a bit of the time! :o Maybe you should have Instant Shine pumping out of your computer speakers 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173/20 "2006-12-17T14:12:30Z")
is there anyway to change it? i’ve alrdy sent in the order few hours ago if not doesnt really matter its just be good if i had it before xmas thats all [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-p/1173.md?page=2)