# Newbie questions on self-effects: bottle vs ToGo spray dose, copulins and more **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [June 4, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-on-self-effects-bottle-vs-togo-spray-dose-copulins-and-more/59210 "2013-06-04T03:24:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![niko93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/258eb7/32.png) [@niko93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/niko93)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-on-self-effects-bottle-vs-togo-spray-dose-copulins-and-more/59210/1 "2013-06-04T03:24:59Z")
Hi guys and girls, I’m a newcomer in this community (sorry for my english, I’m french). I did a lot of research about mones in this forum but I have a lot of questions. List of mones I have: \_from androtics: IG, IH, IS, IJ, A314b, TUTH, Ammo, Ammo-SE, P83(20mu), p75(2.5mu), p74(5mu), p102(5mu), p130(5mu). \_from others(if you know): Holy Grail, Wingman Black Label. 1. I note, there is more product in one spray of bottle than in one spray in ToGo size (And the hose(pipe?) in the bottle is the double of the hose in the ToGo size), I think it cans change the dosage of mu, isn’t it? \_Or maybe the concentration is not the same in a Bottle and in a ToGo size so in one spray we have the same concentration of mones in both (If it’s that, i have a problem: I decant some TUTH from a bottle to a ToGo size.) 2.I precise I have a coach, I practice Street Pick Up, and Night Pick Up, I use mones in different sweet spots with a weather beetween 13-23?C I know the effects can change between people, and I’m looking for somes self-effects to improve my Game, and ther is a list of my self-effects with mones: A314b: Little effects on others but nothing on me. Instant Shine: Nothing on me, I’m disappointed, I tried differents quantity and I feel nothing. It must be better test. Instant Openness: good, I feel more free and the effects can be improve by good music. Instant Honesty: it must be better test, I just tried it in combos and I think it cans be good in my futur test. Instant Jerk: It works a little (just one spray tests), it’s not a very big feeling, it is not enough strong to say if it’s a placebo or if it’s the mones. Just one time, I used several sprays and I got OD’s from girls in my clasroom: they gave me a lot of shit tests without reason; thank you Copulins --'. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/): I feel nothing. It must be better test. Turn Up The Heat: I feel nothing. It must be better test. Ammo/Ammo SE: I feel nothing. It must be better test. P75(2.5 mu): no self-effects but good effects on others. It must be better test. P83(20mu): First time I used it, I feel disinhibited a little like “Don’t care” effect, and an other day, in a pick up session, I tried it alone (20mu) and I wanted to cry I don’t know why. P102(15mu): Just tried one time, Give me a little headache, and I was feeling a little dizzy like if i was a little drunk, not good effects on me. P130(10-15mu): I feel nothing. It must be better test. About me and my personnality: I’m 21. I’m French but not a white skinned guy, I live in Paris but I’m from french West Indies (french Islands near Cuba). So I’m a mix beetween White/Black/Indian, if you want to know what I look like, a lot of people arrest me in the streets because I looks like a lot of Bruno Mars. I use mones to improve my life and my Game, but I’m a little special, my IQ is more than 130 so, I’m gifted with a hypersensibility. I think it cans be an impact about mones (maybe?). I’m a little introverted, so mones to be Alpha aren’t good for me because i don’t speak a lot and Alpha effects make me feel closed (with a good Body Language but I seem inaccessible). I’m looking for bests mones to “great energy”(best self-effects) (The best at this day for me are IO and IH), and the question is: do you know good MX/Putatives/Combos to improve to this way? Thank you for reading, I could have others questions in the future! ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/staggerlee/32/984_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2013, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-on-self-effects-bottle-vs-togo-spray-dose-copulins-and-more/59210/2 "2013-09-17T15:43:27Z")
> [@niko93](#): > > I’m looking for bests mones to “great energy”(best self-effects) (The best at this day for me are IO and IH), and the question is: do you know good MX/Putatives/Combos to improve to this way? Some folks say [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is a good one. Makes you ‘life of the party’ if you will. I just ordered this for myself a few days ago to try it out at the next big function my friends have, which will likely be the annual Halloween party. It’s interesting that you feel nothing from IS. IS gives me the biggest boost in ego and confidence, and makes me feel fun to be around, and from the vibe I get back I **am** fun to be around. I’m thinking with a little MX297 that could be even more powerful of an effect. No feeling from Ammo, I get that too, Ammo doesn’t make me feel like much of anything special by itself, but the way it hits women is unmistakable. Lots closer than they should be, escalations, widened pupils.. yeah, they like that. I think the self-effects are secondary to the way they affect others. I actually don’t really enjoy the openness effect on myself, but I couldn’t live without it in others now that I’ve gotten used it. They just become an open book instantly. A314, I certainly feel that myself. It’s got a protective, safe, confident to a fault feeling. You get the assumption of attraction instead of trying to win it. It’s a very calming, reassuring feeling. A feeling like being around someone who has an incredibly high social status. It helps when you can actually realize that someone is you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-on-self-effects-bottle-vs-togo-spray-dose-copulins-and-more/59210/3 "2013-09-19T10:14:20Z")
> [@niko93](#): > > Hi guys and girls, I’m a newcomer in this community (sorry for my english, I’m french). > > I did a lot of research about mones in this forum but I have a lot of questions. > > 1. I note, there is more product in one spray of bottle than in one spray in ToGo size (And the hose(pipe?) in the bottle is the double of the hose in the ToGo size), I think it cans change the dosage of mu, isn’t it? > \_Or maybe the concentration is not the same in a Bottle and in a ToGo size so in one spray we have the same concentration of mones in both (If it’s that, i have a problem: I decant some TUTH from a bottle to a ToGo size.) > > Instant Jerk: It works a little (just one spray tests), it’s not a very big feeling, it is not enough strong to say if it’s a placebo or if it’s the mones. > Just one time, I used several sprays and I got OD’s from girls in my clasroom: they gave me a lot of shit tests without reason; thank you Copulins --'. 1 - this is one of the most often asked questions on the board and has been answered at least three times in the last two weeks. A browse in Mens and the various intro stickies will provide. 2 - Copulins were removed from IJ several years ago. The current formula is mainly Androstenone.