# Newbie questions: pheros without the cologne, for attraction and for sales trust **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 11, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799 "2014-09-11T14:17:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/1 "2014-09-11T14:17:38Z")
Hello All, I’ve read a lot of the info & I really appreciate what you all share. A couple of things I haven’t had much luck on finding are listed below. Forgive me if they’re out there, this is my first ‘forum’ experience as well, so newbie double whammy. I wear a pretty strong cologne that I really like. Is there an option to get these pheros without the ‘cologne’? Also, I have two different scenarios I’m trying to influence with these products. One is attraction, I’m wanting to attract females and that sexual desire & two is that I work in sales and want something to help me in my sales career while talking to men & women and earning their trust & respect. I know there are ones for each but my question is, do you wear both in the same spot (chest/hair,etc.) everyday for the best method or do you spray depending on the situation and it just wears off. I’ve heard of build up. Any help is appreciated! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/2 "2014-09-11T14:35:46Z")
You should read the stickies - Particularly the “Intro to Mones” and App Points threads. Between them, they cover all the basics of effective phero use. You can get anything except A314 and MX’s unscented, or in a range of other scents via the list box on the order page ot the Custom Form for Consumer products. However its not advised to go fully unscented until you have a fair bit of experience as unscented pheros do not diffuse well. Most people buying unscented are serious mixers, who prepare and add their own scents/diffusion aids. [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) is the standard scent for most consumer products and as well as giving good diffusion, it settles light after half an hour or so - just about any cologne will cover it quite effectively. ---
**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/3 "2014-09-11T16:40:11Z")
Thanks for the info, Mobocaster! I really appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/4 "2014-09-11T17:13:26Z")
spray the pheros to your neck or forearms. The scent will disappear quickly. ---
**Author:** ![dj\_k\_88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9f8e36/32.png) [@dj\_k\_88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dj_k_88)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/5 "2014-09-11T18:19:39Z")
Thank you! That’s a great idea. I also heard to ‘amplify’ the affect, you may want to spritz your hair, would you agree with that as well? > [@lwatkins](#): > > spray the pheros to your neck or forearms. The scent will disappear quickly. ---
**Author:** ![sue1anne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sue1anne/32/1776_2.png) [@sue1anne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sue1anne)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/6 "2014-09-28T14:20:06Z")
Hair tends to move as you move your head, so it can help with getting the mones out there. I’m not really a hair flipper, but right now it’s about shoulder length so it moves a little as I look around, bounces when I walk, and I’m short so it’s likely to be under some guy’s nose, LOL. It can also keep the mones further from your face if they are too overpowering. Some I like better in my hair than on my chest because it still gets effects from others but doesn’t encase me in a cloud right under my face. Sue1anne ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-questions-pheros-without-the-cologne-for-attraction-and-for-sales-trust/62799/7 "2014-09-28T15:41:01Z")
Some pheros are fine to use on hair - but anything containing or breaking down to Androstenone should be avoided as it binds to hair/natural fibers, leading to poorer diffusion, smelly and buildup problems. Its also hellish difficult to shift. Other hair products can also interdere with diffusion or contain antibacterials that will lay-waste to your pheros most effectively Otherwise pheros on hair are more limited by environment - so short clean hair that gets warmth from the skin to help diffusion is great but longer/thicker hair tends to be better insulated so will only diffuse well in warmer environments.