# Newbie Ramblings... A314/Shine in office. Showering of complements and free food?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 12, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531 "2008-05-12T23:41:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Odrisho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f0a364/32.png) [@Odrisho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Odrisho)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/1 "2008-05-12T23:41:37Z")

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Hey Everyone

Ive had pheros for a couple of months now and finally decided to pen (so to speak) a few of the things Ive noticed.

Never really sure on how to lay out prose to read as it sounds in my head… anyway…

Maybe a little background; Im Bengali studying to be an accountant (shock… gasp… no thats something no ones ever heard of!), Im 27 and keep in reasonably good shape… ok thats enough background 🙂

So I started off with A314 , IShine and Instant Openness. Before buying the pheros I spent a while reading journal entries so I thought that I had a pretty good idea of how the phero usage would go…

Now I decided Id start using the A314 later and start off getting used to the IShine… at work instead of finding that the women (Im basically the only guy aside from the partners in the firm) were showering me with complements and … well complements is a good place to put it 😃 I found that they kept offering me food! I mean thats not to say Im not happy when women give me food but not quite the response I was expecting. (For anyone reading this thinking more details… well I had 3 sprays of IShine and for like a week I didnt have to buy lunch!)

At the office both IShine and IO had the effect of making the office manager (late 30s never married woman) veeeerrry surly.

A314 at the office was a much better option I had much better interaction with people and the partners started calling me into their respective offices to have long pointless conversations about… mostly anything but work.

Outside the office I find it hard to define specific IOIs… In class Ive had no real discernable effect… then again I go to classes for audit, tax and financial reporting so not the sort of place where you’re likely to get much of that sort of interaction in the first place.

At parties I find people are friendlier while Im wearing IShine and IO (2 sprays of each) but then again … hard to say if its definately the pheros.

I know a lot of people have talked about self effects from pheros but on the whole I haven’t really noticed much… with the exception of A314. I do generally tend to act more confident when Im wearing it (usually a couple of drops) but that could be a psychological effect of knowing Im wearing pheros… (sort of a Schrödinger’s Cat senario right), so last week I was going out to watch a film with a mate and his new girl and I put on my usual 2 drops of A314, and then I just decided to put a 3rd drop right under my nose. I walked out of my house and to the cinema thinking I was IT, I don’t know what was going through my head and even now I find it a bit hard to explain but damn that was definately a self effect!!!

On the whole I dont think Ive quite gotten the hang of phero usage but it definately warrants further exploration.

Ive since gotten some Ammo and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) 😃

To anyone thats actually still reading this winding outpour I thankyou (and apologise for getting a little carried away!)😛

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/2 "2008-05-12T23:59:18Z")

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Cool. Nice first experiences. A guy can get used to the ‘feeding’ AKA ‘The Mothering Effect’ 😃. I don’t know if it was my dorm in particular, but we had lots of sweet cuties cooking us guys beer munchies after a night of partying or partying/studying.

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**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/3 "2008-05-12T23:59:24Z")

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> [@Odrisho](#):
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> Hey Everyone
> 
> Ive had pheros for a couple of months now and finally decided to pen (so to speak) a few of the things Ive noticed.
> 
> Never really sure on how to lay out prose to read as it sounds in my head… anyway…
> 
> Maybe a little background; Im Bengali studying to be an accountant (shock… gasp… no thats something no ones ever heard of!), Im 27 and keep in reasonably good shape… ok thats enough background 🙂

_gasp_

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> So I started off with A314 , IS and Instant Openness. Before buying the pheros I spent a while reading journal entries so I thought that I had a pretty good idea of how the phero usage would go…

Did you read mine? 😃.

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> Now I decided Id start using the A314 later and start off getting used to the IS… at work instead of finding that the women (Im basically the only guy aside from the partners in the firm) were showering me with complements and … well complements is a good place to put it 😃 I found that they kept offering me food! I mean thats not to say Im not happy when women give me food but not quite the response I was expecting. (For anyone reading this thinking more details… well I had 3 sprays of IS and for like a week I didnt have to buy lunch!)

They want you to notice them 😃.

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> At the office both IS and IO had the effect of making the office manager (late 30s never married woman) veeeerrry surly.
> 
> A314 at the office was a much better option I had much better interaction with people and the partners started calling me into their respective offices to have long pointless conversations about… mostly anything but work.

I love how IO works too 😃.

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> Outside the office I find it hard to define specific IOIs… In class Ive had no real discernable effect… then again I go to classes for audit, tax and financial reporting so not the sort of place where you’re likely to get much of that sort of interaction in the first place.
> 
> At parties I find people are friendlier while Im wearing IS and IO (2 sprays of each) but then again … hard to say if its definately the pheros.

Well, you’re still new, and I wasn’t able to pic up on IOI’s until I had spent ~1 yr studying about them + PUA material. Give it time.

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> I know a lot of people have talked about self effects from pheros but on the whole I haven’t really noticed much… with the exception of A314. I do generally tend to act more confident when Im wearing it (usually a couple of drops) but that could be a psychological effect of knowing Im wearing pheros… (sort of a Schrödinger’s Cat senario right), so last week I was going out to watch a film with a mate and his new girl and I put on my usual 2 drops of A314, and then I just decided to put a 3rd drop right under my nose. I walked out of my house and to the cinema thinking I was IT, I don’t know what was going through my head and even now I find it a bit hard to explain but damn that was definately a self effect!!!

Same with the IOI’s but about ~1yr less to learn to find them.

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> On the whole I dont think Ive quite gotten the hang of phero usage but it definately warrants further exploration.
> 
> Ive since gotten some Ammo and Instant Female Magic 😃
> 
> To anyone thats actually still reading this winding outpour I thankyou (and apologise for getting a little carried away!)😛

Good for you! Thanks for staring a journal, don’t run off to quickly now. Stay for the party!.

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**Author:** ![Odrisho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f0a364/32.png) [@Odrisho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Odrisho)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/4 "2008-05-13T23:53:13Z")

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Yeay replies!

Phya… lucky you 😃

Unfortunately my office girls arnt anyone Id … play house with…

Eldros … (Im waiting for StarCraft II too!)

On the whole from the tone of things from the forum I get that its gonna take time and some serious methodical testing to understand what Im using here.

Ok heres another wierd thing that Ive had a few times. This is while Im wearing a A314, IS and IO combo (2 drops and 2 sprays respectively), once while Im on the tube (metro) I was getting a few of the girls on the carriage all just stare at me… not exactly interest, repulsion, fear or attraction… this was like Invasion of the Body Snatchers sort of non emotive stares! I mean like freaky!

Then I kinda had the same thing when I went to this party, walked in and a few women were just… looking at me… face/eyes totally blank! Thankfully that goes away once you start talking but… freaaaaky!

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/5 "2008-05-14T00:16:30Z")

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> [@Odrisho](#):
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> Phya… lucky you 😃

Indeed! Too bad the RAs in the dorms were all jackoffs and there’s no way in hell I’m rooming in the dorms again…they were probably all jealous. 😃

> [@Odrisho](#):
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> Ok heres another wierd thing that Ive had a few times. This is while Im wearing a A314, IS and Instant Openness combo (2 drops and 2 sprays respectively), once while Im on the tube (metro) I was getting a few of the girls on the carriage all just stare at me… not exactly interest, repulsion, fear or attraction… this was like Invasion of the Body Snatchers sort of non emotive stares! I mean like freaky!
> 
> Then I kinda had the same thing when I went to this party, walked in and a few women were just… looking at me… face/eyes totally blank! Thankfully that goes away once you start talking but… freaaaaky!

THAT..is what I think we call DIHL. Deer In Headlights Look. Next time you see one on a girl you dig, go and talk to her and snap her outta it! 🙂

Hey, did you edit your thread title? If so..how?

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**Author:** ![zeph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/85e7bf/32.png) [@zeph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zeph)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/6 "2008-05-14T00:23:06Z")

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> [@Phya](#):
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> Hey, did you edit your thread title? If so..how?

when you hit reply, look at the title. You can change it to whatever you want. =D

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/7 "2008-05-14T00:52:23Z")

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No, not the post title, the thread title. I guess your thread was and always will be **Newbie Ramblings… A314/Shine in office. Showering of complements and free food?**

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**Author:** ![Odrisho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f0a364/32.png) [@Odrisho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Odrisho)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 10:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/8 "2008-05-14T10:31:18Z")

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Ohhhhhhhhh … Ive never thought DIHL would look sooooo freaky! Still any reaction is better than no reaction right!

Cheers dude! That in some wierd way makes me feel less freaked out about it 😃

As for how to change the thread/post title… I dont even know how everyone keeps doing the quotes!

Im guessing its not just a copy and paste job right?

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/9 "2008-05-14T18:04:04Z")

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**Author:** ![Odrisho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f0a364/32.png) [@Odrisho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Odrisho)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2008, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/10 "2008-05-14T22:35:42Z")

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This is a toooooooooooooooooootal Duh moment :o

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**Author:** ![Odrisho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f0a364/32.png) [@Odrisho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Odrisho)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-ramblings-a314-shine-in-office-showering-of-complements-and-free-food/12531/11 "2008-05-18T15:30:00Z")

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So this weekend I tried out IFM and ammo!

I have to say ammo is a lot of fun, it seemed to have quite a self effect on me, I was laughing and generally being quite talkative under its effects.

Im not saying Im normally mute but at one point in the evening at a bar I was talking pretty much crap with a half the people there… almost simultaneously. I was expecting ammo to be a more female targeted phero but I seemed to get very friendly responses from guys too.

The only not up side of this phero (its not a bad thing, just an odd thing) it had a slightly stong musk to its smell but I seemed to be the only one to notice.

IMF I haven’t really notice much from yet, maybe I need to tweak the dosage on this some more (I used 2 sprays for IMF and 2 for [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) too). I will say that other people have mentioned feeling a bit down or depressed after using IMF so I made sure to spray it in the back of my head, what ever the case I didnt feel down after using it.
