# newbie skeptic needs your help **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 28, 2006, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318 "2006-04-28T11:36:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![richuroo43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@richuroo43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richuroo43)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2007, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/21 "2007-08-21T02:07:49Z")
lol, can u spray diffrent pheromones on the same parts of your body šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2007, 5:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/22 "2007-08-22T05:55:35Z")
I dunno, do you have the physical ability to? ---
**Author:** ![Tribulus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tribulus/32/581_2.png) [@Tribulus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tribulus)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/23 "2007-10-16T20:46:30Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Scent of Eros, aka ā€œS O Eā€, is a product by J V Kohl, a researcher who authored a book about pheromones by the same name. It is primarily a combination of -Androstenol and -Androsterone (no none). It comes in a roll-top type bottle. Iā€™m also a newbie in here. Years ago Iā€™ve tried SoE with great results. Witch product from Androticsdirect come nearest SoE? ---
**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/24 "2007-10-17T03:37:52Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > In fact, Iā€™d recommend you donā€™t wear it in a predominantly male environment at all Thanks for your great tips, MHarris! Hereā€™s a twist, thoughā€¦ What if youā€™re a manager, and all the rest of the managers that you have to deal with (including your boss) are predominantly male, while your subordinates and others around the workplace are female? I just got my first order, and Iā€™m trying out A314 at work for all the reasons you mentioned, and then some. However, I have been a bit of a stress-case lately, and on edge; a couple of the women have told me that I have been intense and virtually unapproachable lately šŸ˜® (this is before the A314), and Iā€™m wondering if adding [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) will help put them at ease (along with making a conscious effort of toning myself down). Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/25 "2007-10-17T06:26:50Z")
Tater thinks not screaming would help. How much A314 are you wearing? Do you have any IH? Are you sure you arent getting an androstenone buildup? ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/26 "2007-10-17T23:55:40Z")
> [@Piphest](#): > > Iā€™m also a newbie in here. > > Years ago Iā€™ve tried Scent of Eros with great results. > > Witch product from Androticsdirect come nearest SoE? I donā€™t think there is one. Itā€™s already a good established product. You could ā€œroll your ownā€ by using the individual ingredients but youā€™d have to figure out the ratios that work best for you on your own. Someone else here might have an idea about a close match in the MX series or somethingā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![raceryan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/raceryan/32/1740_2.png) [@raceryan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/raceryan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/27 "2008-02-27T01:03:42Z")
This is a great sticky, gave me a better breakdown of the productsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![bsassy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bsassy/32/2266_2.png) [@bsassy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bsassy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/28 "2008-05-29T08:59:16Z")
Be careful cause people at work may get the wrong impression. Pheromones mixed with a healthy attitude can spell trouble. If you want to keep your marriage of 12 yearsā€¦ you may want to contain the Pheromones to ā€œhome use onlyā€ He~he šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2008, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/29 "2008-05-31T02:33:42Z")
> [@Tribulus](#): > > Iā€™m also a newbie in here. > > Years ago Iā€™ve tried Scent of Eros with great results. > > Witch product from Androticsdirect come nearest SoE? I know that is a old post, but it seems that no one answered. Instant openness and ih are the closest product from androticsdirect, just in case someone else comes here with the same question šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/30 "2008-06-19T08:50:34Z")
Instant Openness + Instant Gentelman is pretty close to Scent of Eros. Iā€™d recommend using 1-2 sprays of Instant Openness and 1 spray of [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and the effect should be fairly similar. Scent of Eros is a really good product in its own right and I donā€™t believe Androtics really has a directly competing product. In fact I will often use Scent of Eros with some Androtics products, such as Instant Honesty or Instant Shine depending on my mood. SoE is a really smooth product, itā€™s not really quite the same as blasting away with 2-3 sprays of Instant Openness. The effect is more natural. I also like Instant Gentleman alone sometimes. Itā€™s good in situations where you want a very neutral mood but you want some respect and coolness. It also seems to last longer in effect than Instant Openness, maybe as long as androstenone and similar pheromones- androsterone is a ketone, not an alcohol like Instant Openness. ---
**Author:** ![akamahyar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/97f17d/32.png) [@akamahyar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/akamahyar)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/31 "2008-06-20T06:20:20Z")
mharris I have been wanting to ask you what makes ammo an attraction product??? ---
**Author:** ![dilroytk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dilroytk/32/1963_2.png) [@dilroytk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dilroytk)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/32 "2008-07-01T19:18:03Z")
it almost sounds like a spray on sedative ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/33 "2008-07-05T13:36:10Z")
> [@akamahyar](#): > > mharris I have been wanting to ask you what makes ammo an attraction product??? MHarris reads the forum still but tends to not respond on the forum. Most company heads dont and have there ā€œpeopleā€ do this task for them which is fine cause it means he is busy creating new yummy mixes for us to try. What makes AMMO attactive, Well Androstenone which is 1/3 of AMMO creates arousal and in turn makes it attractive in nature. Alpha Androstenol which is another 1/3 of the mix is very attracting, its friendly fun comfortable 1/3 is Androsterone which signals masculine reliable strong which all attractive qualities So the Alpha Androstenol plays a big part in pulling people in, openning them up and the Androstenone then kicks in arousing them and increasing the attraction while the Androsterone holds their interest and comfort. Its a well balanced mix šŸ˜‰ Tisha ---
**Author:** ![SpizyChicken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spizychicken/32/1224_2.png) [@SpizyChicken](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SpizyChicken)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/34 "2008-09-19T11:59:00Z")
This all seems like the ā€œPlaceboā€ effect to me. If the bottle says ā€œSpray this on 3 times and you will feel AMAZINGā€ People will mentally feel amazing because of this placebo effect." Natural if you are feeling AMAZING and feeling better you will seem more attractive to other people. If the bottle says it will make women feel calm around you, you will naturally be more confidant thinking women will be more excepting. It seems these are more a pharmacological ā€œSprayā€ than the actual Pheromones doing anything to alter actual thought and feelings. Please prove me wrong. I would love it all to be this easy. Until then, I will be experimenting with my TURN UP THE HEAT and INSTANT SHINE. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/35 "2008-09-19T22:11:02Z")
> [@SpizyChicken](#): > > This all seems like the ā€œPlaceboā€ effect to me. > If the bottle says ā€œSpray this on 3 times and you will feel AMAZINGā€ People will mentally feel amazing because of this placebo effect." Natural if you are feeling AMAZING and feeling better you will seem more attractive to other people. If the bottle says it will make women feel calm around you, you will naturally be more confidant thinking women will be more excepting. > > It seems these are more a pharmacological ā€œSprayā€ than the actual Pheromones doing anything to alter actual thought and feelings. > > Please prove me wrong. I would love it all to be this easy. > > Until then, I will be experimenting with my TURN UP THE HEAT and INSTANT SHINE. And you got all this after spraying TUTH one time? ---
**Author:** ![SpizyChicken](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spizychicken/32/1224_2.png) [@SpizyChicken](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SpizyChicken)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/36 "2008-09-20T00:55:14Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > And you got all this after spraying Turn Up The Heat one time? No I didnā€™t get all that from 1 spray. I have read many of the threads from people and done some research on this stuff. From what I see, I think it actually has more to do with what the person THINKS the spray will do than what it really does. Power of the MIND. I have been using SHINE and TURN UP THE HEAT for 2 days now and never told my wife I even got it. My wife hasnā€™t even noticed any difference in how I smell or that Iā€™m even using anything different. At least she hasnā€™t said anything. Okā€¦ STOP, You donā€™t have to go there. Maybe she isnā€™t very attentiveā€¦which is why Iā€™m even trying this crazy stuff to begin with. Here are 2 things I HAVE noticed. 1. I enjoy that way it smells, and actually feel aroused myself from wearing it. 2. My wife went to bed before I did one night. I put some SHINE on before I went to bed. The next morning she did seem more happy and friendly than she normally does in the morning. So maybe there is something here. I canā€™t say either way as Iā€™m a just now researching this stuff and using it for the first time. Iā€™ll keep you posted, and keep posting my thoughts and ideas for what they are worth. If anything, TURN UP THE HEAT SMELLS AWESOME! And I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/37 "2008-09-20T19:25:55Z")
I have found many effects to be very subtle and occur over time. Also as I learn to recognize them. I for one never felt anything from Instant Shine while others report all sorts of effects (even before we knew what the TAA molecule did). I think I can feel pretty confident in saying Iā€™ve noticed an increase in ā€œchattynessā€ with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (alpha-androstenol), some more relaxed feelings from women when I use IFM, a ā€œI wanna hang out with youā€ vibe with P74, and some positive effects at ā€œfriendlinessā€ with a all-in-one product that is a competitor to Ammunition. But i9t took time to see. And there have been many a time when I didnā€™t see any reactions at all. Affects may not be all that pronounced, despite some of the ā€œshe stopped dead in her tracks and stared at meā€ type reports Iā€™ve seen, and because we are dealing with something that can vary due to body chemistry and a personā€™s emotional/physical state (that can vary hourlyā€¦) you donā€™t always get great consistancy. Just a quick thought. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 12:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/38 "2008-09-28T12:58:43Z")
> [@](#): > > If the bottle says ā€œSpray this on 3 times and you will feel AMAZINGā€ People will mentally feel amazing because of this placebo effect." Natural if you are feeling AMAZING and feeling better you will seem more attractive to other people. If the bottle says it will make women feel calm around you, you will naturally be more confidant thinking women will be more excepting. Your reading this forum and assuming the only testing being done is by those in the forum. Blind tests are conducted all the time. I conduct some blind tests myself. The user has no ideal that they are even mones let alone that they will do something. This is just one part of a larger research project and this site is more about the research and development then it is about sales. Your speaking of the self effects of mones. Alot of people dont get self effects and generally they wear off after repeated use but the reactions from others keep occuring. > [@](#): > > Please prove me wrong. I would love it all to be this easy. Only you can do that, and no one said mone use was easy. The people you see reporting hits have been working with these products for a long time and know what works for them. How much to use and why it does what it does. I suggest you give it a honest try and if your having trouble use the resources here in the forum or ask for help. If then you still feel this way make your judgement then. It takes more then a few trys to get it right but its worth the effort in the end. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mamba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mamba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mamba)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/39 "2009-02-01T19:10:49Z")
I have tried some other [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) which worked reasonably well, if a little sporadically, so I do have faith, what would recommend as a generic juice dose suitable for daily use? Aim: general awe, openness and sexual attraction ---
**Author:** ![Ta1fo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ta1fo/32/2318_2.png) [@Ta1fo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ta1fo)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318/40 "2009-02-27T07:55:12Z")
i dont wanna make other thread, so if u dont mind ill ask one question very quickly šŸ™‚ i got my order today, can those botlles be kept in sunny place? and room tempeture? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-skeptic-needs-your-help/318.md?page=3)