# Newbie wanting to learn more! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 30, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126 "2014-10-30T16:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jonlb21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jonlb21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonlb21)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126/1 "2014-10-30T16:59:21Z")
Hey guys, My name is Jon and it’s been a little while since I’ve used some pheromones. I’ve tried holy grail by HAX and Ammunition. For the amount of hype holy grail gets I didn’t receive that many hits. In all honesty a few girls told me they hated the smell. So I took a break because I figured mones were ineffective. Anyway since then I wear Acqua Di Gio By Giorgio Armani and I get more compliments than I ever did with holy grail or ammunition. I was wondering if there are any extremely powerful [unscented pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) or oils I could pair with Acqua Di Gio By Giorgio Armani that would be a crazy combo? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126/2 "2014-10-30T18:48:55Z")
There are plenty but for the purposes of this forum you should be looking at the products that come in 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) - that’s all the Instant Line and Putatives. This scent ensures good diffusion and settles light after 30 minutes or so - Its easily covered by Aqua diGio, which is a popular cologne with many guys here. And you are right - A good cologne can get fantastic scent hits all by itself. Combine that with appropriate pheros for you and your situation and the responses get better and stronger still. The best thing you could do now is post your own thread in the Intro Forum, with a bit more info about yourself, how you want to use pheros and the sort of people you want to influence plus your range of opportunities to use them - This also influences phero choice greatly and will help get you much better advice and earn you the GC to help get started. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126/3 "2014-10-30T19:14:52Z")
I don’t think there is such a thing as ‘[unscented pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/)’.. Seeing as I believe they have their own scent… Which could be more off putting than the cologne scent accompanying them. With that said. I really like the smell of neroli.. I think it smells better than cologne, more of a natural scent. I’ve also wore pheros with Armani and it smelt great! Did you try different dosages? Maybe you need something to compliment the ammo.. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126/4 "2014-10-30T19:55:23Z")
Yes, you do get unscented pheros but on their own they tend to be rather ineffective as they diffuse poorly compared to scented products - Most are sold for people to mix with their own scents, although a few persist in using them standalone - which can work but usually in a far more limited range of environments compared to scented. They also tend to stink as pheros do have their own scent, sensitivity to which varies widely between individuals - They also tend to stink worse on breakdown, which can be a real problem with some in warmer places. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-wanting-to-learn-more/63126/5 "2014-10-30T20:32:15Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > They also tend to stink as pheros do have their own scent, sensitivity to which varies widely between individuals - They also tend to stink worse on breakdown, which can be a real problem with some in warmer places. Yes mobocaster.. That’s exactly what I’m talking about.. Pheros have their own scent.. So there doesn’t seem to be a way to escape the ‘scent’.