# Newbie with a Quick Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 11, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272 "2011-05-11T19:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/1 "2011-05-11T19:07:56Z")
Greetings all, I recently came across this site and decided I should give it a try because why the hell not. Anyway here is the story. I have this girl that I have been basically nursing a connection with over skype, we have gone out on a few dates when she was back home from school, but she is graduating soon and will be back home soon enough. She said after the last date that something was missing, and she didn’t understand why. I have been charming her, and flirting with her over skype. She has trust issues but has been opening up to me with just my words alone. I am going up to visit her at school this weekend to hang out. I am confident there is an attraction but I just want a little added edge to cement the deal, so to speak. What would work best for me to cement this attraction and help it to move forward? Also with that in mind I will be with her all weekend so how often should I apply said [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). She already said I can sleep with her, not sex, but actually share her bed while I stay there. Since I will already be sharing a bed I just want that added edge in case my charm and compliments do not take me as far as I want, something that will ensure she will go crazy with anticipation while I share a bed with her. Your help is greatly appreciated! Newbie ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/2 "2011-05-11T19:33:09Z")
I would think IG to say I am reliable and IS to say lets have fun! ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/3 "2011-05-11T19:38:13Z")
Thank you for the quick response, as someone who is new to this I have to ask, considering we will be going out on the town before settling in for the night should I apply them before we go out or when we get back in? Thanks again for the quick response! ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/4 "2011-05-11T19:56:58Z")
1st find you sweet spot by doing this: [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/1) If you don’t have time 2 sprays of each has been a guideline I personally follow. Definitely put it on in the car just before you arrive. I feel that mones are an better facilitator when they are received upon sight. I personally would refresh 3-5hrs with one spray each but, be careful if you haven’t found your sweet spot because an overdose is counter-productive. Relax into the mones and find your place with them. I also highly recomend a314, I didn’t try it for a long time but was amazed once I did. I wouldn’t use a314 alongside IG though. They both are high in -none and you may OD. Mostly experiment and have fun. ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/5 "2011-05-11T20:06:59Z")
Okay awesome, thanks for all of the help you have provided me I will do the research as I want to be sure I don’t OD for sure. I do have a314 in my stock, so far this is what I have in my collection. A314 Turn UP the heat Instant Shine [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Ammunition Thanks again for all of your help! ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/6 "2011-05-11T20:18:48Z")
a314 with IS is deadly in my opinion. And no problem, I once was where you are! ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/7 "2011-05-11T20:27:07Z")
Deadly in a good way lol. Perhaps I will give that a shot instead, do you recommend it more than your first suggestion? ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/8 "2011-05-11T20:37:31Z")
I recomended IG because it’s a comfortable fatherly type warmth whereas a314 is alpha male gogetter type stud. Don’t misinterpret my IG comment as it says sexy but in a I won’t hurt you way. A314 may be intimidating until she gets closer unless she is a very outgoing confident sort. It’s really a judgement call depending on the situation. I feel IG now A314 when she is more comfortable. Tell me more about her personality. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/9 "2011-05-11T20:38:22Z")
> [@thodge21](#): > > 1st find you sweet spot by doing this: [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/1) > > If you don’t have time 2 sprays of each has been a guideline I personally follow. Definitely put it on in the car just before you arrive. I feel that mones are an better facilitator when they are received upon sight. I personally would refresh 3-5hrs with one spray each but, be careful if you haven’t found your sweet spot because an overdose is counter-productive. Relax into the mones and find your place with them. I also highly recomend a314, I didn’t try it for a long time but was amazed once I did. I wouldn’t use a314 alongside IG though. They both are high in -none and you may OD. Mostly experiment and have fun. IG has no -None in it at all, a314 only has a very small amount per drop. ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/10 "2011-05-11T20:40:39Z")
I read that a314 was 80% -none in another post and IG was just slightly less. Let me find the thread as I don’t want to misinform. ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/11 "2011-05-11T20:45:44Z")
A bit about her, she is very self conscious and has said repeatedly to me that she has no idea why I still bother talking to her because she is nothing special. She is pretty shy and very guarded. Over time she has opened up to me a lot and let me in on some of her deepest darkest secrets so I know she feels comfortable with me and trusts me fully. So this weekend I am driving up to see her, she will be completely alone in her apartment, and it will be just me and her. We plan on going out to eat and maybe going to the bar for a drink or two. Since I will be staying in her apartment for sure I just wanted to have that edge that coupled with my charm and personality that she already seems to like very much will push her over the edge of the fence she has been sitting on towards me. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/12 "2011-05-11T20:51:26Z")
> [@thodge21](#): > > I read that a314 was 80% -none in another post and IG was just slightly less. Let me find the thread as I don’t want to misinform. They are both mainly eRone not eNone . ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/13 "2011-05-11T21:02:47Z")
I can’t for the life of me find that post but I will keep looking. I would recommend IG for the home setting a314 at dinner and the bar. A314 should make people respect you and make you look good in front of her. One trick I use is to wear a sweatshirt or button up shirt that I can change in order to switch my signature. The a314 oil however I wouldn’t put on my clothing so be creative. It sounds like if you listen to her and find ways to reassure her that she’s good enough you’ll do great! Tell her you feel lucky to be with her and such things. Practice smiling at her when eye contact is made and read up on body language you can send her, this can work better than mones. Go get her. And I’ll try an sort out if IG and a314 both have -none or not. ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/14 "2011-05-11T21:04:07Z")
Thanks for catching that ghost. Still there maybe an OD issue. Correct? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/15 "2011-05-11T21:10:27Z")
> [@thodge21](#): > > I read that a314 was 80% -none in another post and IG was just slightly less. Let me find the thread as I don’t want to misinform. Keep in mind that unless MHarris, Jasmin, or myself posted it (or Steve if he heard it from us) - any actual percentages and content are purely speculation. ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/16 "2011-05-11T21:10:43Z")
Thank you, you are a gentleman and a scholar. Okay so let me make sure I got this straight, here is the plan we will start off going out to dinner and the bar, I will use a314 first because we will be going out pretty much when I first get there. That in combination with IS if I remember correctly, which I apply before I even see her for the first time as you said having mones on when you first see her is a good thing. Once we get back to the apartment, I will change out of my going out clothes and into my sleeping clothes, and in doing this change my scent by applying IG and more IS or just the IG, or am I cutting IS out of this completely now I got lost in the explanation over the posts, I just want to make sure I don’t OD and ruin everything. And when you say change my scent, does that mean I will be applying the sprays on my actually clothing and not my pulse points? I am sorry I feel like I am being a bother when you have been so helpful I just want to make sure I get it all right the first time. I do have a natural charm, she has said so on numerous occasions so I am not too worried, just want to put that extra oomph on is all lol. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/17 "2011-05-11T21:13:20Z")
Also, they’re right - IG and IS as a first impression are totally solid. Touch up the IG when you get back. ---
**Author:** ![ITNerd799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7cd45c/32.png) [@ITNerd799](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ITNerd799)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/18 "2011-05-11T21:14:52Z")
Thank you for your suggestions as well, it is great that I am able to get so many different people saying the same thing so I feel reassured and that I am on the right path! ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/19 "2011-05-11T21:18:56Z")
> [@ITNerd799](#): > > Thank you for your suggestions as well, it is great that I am able to get so many different people saying the same thing so I feel reassured and that I am on the right path! It’s what we are here for 🙂 You should totally start a journal by the way. This specifically worked for me before: 2 sprays (under throat and spread across the wrists) of IG 2 sprays (each side of your neck) of IS Then after coming back from being out: Touch up with 1 spray of IG (IS can also be touched up if you want but when sitting around I find when it wears off it’s noticeable) ---
**Author:** ![thodge21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thodge21/32/1084_2.png) [@thodge21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thodge21)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272/20 "2011-05-11T21:20:16Z")
I would put the a314 on my pulse points. It should wear off by the time you get home 3-5 hours. Then the IG to get cozy and snuggle with. Both times I would use IS. Although IG all day would be solid aswell. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie-with-a-quick-question/50272.md?page=2)