# newbie

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [November 20, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241 "2009-11-20T16:22:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Wall\_Sall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/48db29/32.png) [@Wall\_Sall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wall_Sall)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/1 "2009-11-20T16:22:17Z")

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hii everyone my name is raj and im new to the whole pheromone world. im an 18 yr old male from the UK. i joined this forum as i wanted to try something new. also im doing psychology at college and wanted to check out how human behaviour varies with these [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) and see if all the hype is true lol.

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**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/2 "2009-11-20T16:28:30Z")

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> [@Wall\_Sall](#):
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> hii everyone my name is raj and im new to the whole pheromone world. im an 18 yr old male from the UK. i joined this forum as i wanted to try something new. also im doing psychology at college and wanted to check out how human behaviour varies with these pheromone products and see if all the hype is true lol.

Hi, welcome to the forum!

[Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are definitely the real deal, at least the ones on this site! If you could provide us with some more information you’d be able to gain a better understanding of what you want before you order… Exactly what do you want out of pheromones? How have your past relationships with females been and are you looking to improve them, or just experiment with pheromones at a psychological level? Do you go to parties or clubs or just want a daily class mix? How do you feel people percieve you currently and how do you want to be percieved?

To see if pheromones work, I’d get 1) Instant shine. It is a feel good pheromone, basically shifts the paradigm of how you think about yourself and others. Makes you and others around you physically feel happier.

I’d also get Instant honesty to see how people immediately open up to you deeply, a psychologist’s dream lol. Instant openess would be good too because that starts the conversation, so I’d try 1 spray of IO and 1 spray of IH, then 1 spray of IO and 2 sprays of IH, then 2 sprays of IO and 2 IH, etc.

And ammo for attraction and obvious hits, people looking at you like “why am i so attracted to this guy!?” Great for college girls, I’m 20 in college and also like psychology so we’re in the same boat.

Good luck!!

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**Author:** ![Wall\_Sall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/48db29/32.png) [@Wall\_Sall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wall_Sall)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/3 "2009-11-20T16:33:40Z")

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instant shine sounds good as i want to see if and how they work. and to what extent. some people percieve me as only a ‘colleague’ but id love for them to see the real me lol and im stuck in so many friend zones its not even funny anymore!

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**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/4 "2009-11-20T16:47:51Z")

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ammo will be the trick then man. IH and IO at too much can be friendzoney and comforting. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is approachable yet sexual. Imagine a woman interacting with johnny depp. Ok maybe not to that degree but it definitely gives you an upper hand in sexual dynamics to most other men.

Instant shine will make you look youthful/vibrant and the self effects are great.

So I’d probably order up a to go of cttm2, a to go of ammo if/when it’s available, and a to go of instant shine 1x or 2x, it’s hard to overdose on and 2x won’t be an od.

I’d then try 1, then 2, up to 4 Instant shine by itself for a couple days until you find the sweet spot.

I’d then try cttm2 by itself till sweet spot, probably 2-4. I’d then do ammo by itself for sweetspot, probably 2-3.

Then you can start mixing it up, say 3 instant shine (1 on your neck for self effects or hair, 2 sprays on your under wrists. 2 cttm2 (more than that may be too friendly for your desires) on the forearms, and 3 ammo to really get the sexual vibes going on your forerms, wrists, and or neck. Friendzones are never funny 😕

If ammo is out of stock instant gentleman would be interesting as a temp alternative. It gives a cool, I’m more mature than most dudes my age vibe.

Instant jerk gives a “I sleep with a lot of women, do you think you can handle that?” type of vibe so you could end up attracting a lot of easier/more sexual women, but turning off a lot of relationshipy women. It also may not be the best for work or whatever unless really well buffered by socials like cttm2 and IS.

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**Author:** ![Wall\_Sall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/48db29/32.png) [@Wall\_Sall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wall_Sall)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/5 "2009-11-20T16:51:38Z")

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thanks dude i hope everyone on this site is as helpful as u! p.s when do u think they will restock ammo?

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**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/6 "2009-11-20T17:05:09Z")

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> [@Wall\_Sall](#):
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> thanks dude i hope everyone on this site is as helpful as u! p.s when do u think they will restock ammo?

there are some insanely helpful people and everyone is very open. The people who also run this site give amazing, the best, customer service I’ve seen in my whole life and I don’t say that lightly. They will sometimes give a free to go pheromone in your order, give a free 25 bux if people provide info about themselves in intros. the chocolate doesnt hurt either lol

I used pheromones for a good 4-5 months and just started posting so I’m just getting a lot of stuff out right now that I have learned but never written. check out my journal for more info I think it’d help you a lot

Ammo can be out anywhere from 1 more day to a few weeks. On the site [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com), click the link so that you will be notified when ammo arrives. You can also call or email or PM the people who run it here, but they might not even know. the best way is to try stuff one at a time, and just take it/appreciate it when it becomes available. By not having it stocked all the time, I get way more into it when it comes. Like I didnt have ammo for 3 months because it was unavailable. Then I got the last 1 when it was available once and ever since I have cherished it.

So I’d snag some other stuff, like a full size IS 2 x. It can have a kind of sweet overpowering smell at first that leaves u headachey at first but u get used to it. That doesnt happen to most people tho. IH to go size would be a solid pick too, I’ve never heard it not working. And cttm2 would be good full size to just start talking to more people and them talking more too.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/7 "2009-11-20T17:12:46Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

You have gotten a lot of product advice so I will not rehash it all.

Give the what pheros can and cannot do thread in my signature block a read. It will give you a better idea of what to expect.

As a psych major in college you are in the perfect position to try out all these products and see results.

I would say the products you are most likely to see results with are the social products - IO (great for general chatty conversations), IH (one of my favorites - creates feelings of connection and often deeper conversations) and IShine which you have already discussed. I personally do not use IO too much as it creates too much chattiness for me. IH seems a little more focused conversation-wise.

Given that Ammo is out of stock at the moment - I would consider using IG as a base product. It will give you a cool smooth vibe and often makes younger guys seem a little older as a result. I have posted several times on this product so they should not be too hard to find.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/8 "2009-11-20T17:13:20Z")

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Hey Wall

AMMO should be back anytime - it’s good stuff and even if the pheros were hocus pocus (they aren’t) AMMO makes a great cologne.

Like conundrum said - IShine is a great product for evaluating pheros… it should be named instant happy sauce, there are some definite self-effects (mood elevation) and it tends to do the same to people around you - makes them want to be around you… really good stuff.

If you don’t want to wait for AMMO to come back in stock - IG is a great alternative - it’s main component 'rone will give you a mature. reliable, respectable signature.  
IG is great for younger guys because it makes them appear older (and therefore more desirable in general)

Have a good’un and welcome aboard!

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**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/9 "2009-11-20T17:26:36Z")

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haha well i guess that just answered your “I hope everyone is as helpful as you question.” 🙂

taking what Wrlprchnx and bosshank said right now I’d order IShine 2X full bottle. I’d order IG full version too.

Your IShine will show you the self effects and the IG will get you the cool vibe and be well buffered by the IShine.

On my next order I’d order IH 2X full and Ammo.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbie/34241/10 "2009-11-20T18:04:35Z")

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Thanks so much for joining PheroTalk, I’m super excited to have you here. It’s always great when a new member discovers a world so full of endless possibilities. The only limits to mones is our own imagination 🙂

While I would love to issue you the $25 Gift Certificate for saying hello I do kindly request you post some more about yourself here. If you are unsure about what qualifies as sufficient to obtain the gift certificate I am just itching to email you, please have a look at this thread: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) I wrote it to help everyone in writing the perfect introduction. Of course the choice is yours and your privacy is very important. If you just don’t feel comfortable providing additional info we will all still do our best to assist you anyway.

Welcome to PheroTalk
