# Newbies Please listen to the experienced users!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 24, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866 "2013-08-24T01:04:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/1 "2013-08-24T01:04:03Z")
Hello everyone, I went out testing tonight I wore: 1 2x AMMO, 1 5mcg of P74, 1 12.5 mcg P79, 2 IO, and 3 of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’m a 29 yo black male. First we went to a local bar. I noticed women looking at me and making eye contact as we walked in but nothing after that. I tried to mingle we many women but to no avail. They were very short with me with their answers. Next we went to a club. Same thing women were very short with me. Something went wrong and I have no idea what went because, being a newbie and all I wanted to just start spraying on mones without knowing the side effects. ANDROTICS ASK US TO TEST EACH MONE BY ITS SELF FOR A REASON. I WILL TEST ONE BY ONE FOR NOW ON FOR SURE!!! 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 7:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/2 "2013-08-24T07:58:19Z")
To me, that 12.5mcg of P79 looks a very likely culprit. You had a well moderated mix there but P79 can amplify any negative responses as well as positive. I’ll rarely go over 5mcg in any mix and mostly use just 2.5. Higher [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and IO might offset it a bit as well but yes, testing individually will help find what suits you best. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/3 "2013-08-24T08:08:53Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > To me, that 12.5mcg of P79 looks a very likely culprit. You had a well moderated mix there but P79 can amplify any negative responses as well as positive. I’ll rarely go over 5mcg in any mix and mostly use just 2.5. > > Higher P74 and IO might offset it a bit as well but yes, testing individually will help find what suits you best. Mobo, I thought that being that I never wore it before. I write down every thing I put on and, like you said everything was pretty leveled so I was lost a bit . I’m going to test P79 alone to learn more about it. The only reason I choose to buy it is because I read that P79, TUTH,and TAL makes one heck of a seduction mix. I don’t even know what TAL is Lol. Well my friend only test will tell. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/4 "2013-08-24T08:12:33Z")
When it works, yes P79 works very well but you need to be very careful with it around overt none - **especially** TUTH, which does have a little in the mix already. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/5 "2013-08-24T08:15:57Z")
After I test [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) alone, I’m then going to test it with A314. Somethings telling me that’s a killer combo. ---
**Author:** ![Lolkkk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/db5fbb/32.png) [@Lolkkk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lolkkk)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/6 "2013-08-24T08:26:16Z")
Has anyone used [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) on its own? I just got it for the first time, considering trying it out. Not sure what effects it has? ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/7 "2013-08-24T08:38:06Z")
> [@Lolkkk](#): > > Has anyone used P74 on its own? I just got it for the first time, considering trying it out. Not sure what effects it has? I did for 2 days @ 5mcg x 2 = !0 mcg. I notice that my cousins girlfriend was touching on a lot, Rubbing my arm, and putting her head on my shoulder. Very strange my friend. The next time I wore it to work and, I put everyone in a good mood almost like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). But I’ve only test for 2 day @ the same dose so I really can’t say what it does yet. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/8 "2013-08-24T08:52:02Z")
> [@Lolkkk](#): > > Has anyone used P74 on its own? I just got it for the first time, considering trying it out. Not sure what effects it has? The best way is to test it for yourself, standalone at a range of doses. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) is also a key “fallout” mone - which is another more specialised application if you want to search-up on it but do your basic testing first. One thing to watch is that P74 at high dose can get a bit “bestest friend in the world” - 20mcg is about its ceiling in light sexual/social mixes and 30mcg in more overt ones. More than that is IME the preserve of professional mixes - where it is good with A314 and bloody awkward people. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/9 "2013-08-24T09:58:22Z")
OK Mobo now you’ve got my ear. What’s Fallout mean? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2013, 10:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/10 "2013-08-24T10:50:49Z")
Its when repeated exposure to certain mones or combos causes people to want to latch-on to you/be about you all the time/start treating you as “Mr Authority”/get a bit crushy on you - very useful in all sorts of ways in professional and relationship-promoting mixes as it can be driven in suitable directions by your behaviour and other steering mones. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@WesleyLC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLC)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/11 "2013-08-25T05:41:21Z")
Ok, sounds like I need a bottle of IH. Couldn’t I get fallout with A314, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and TAL? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-please-listen-to-the-experienced-users/59866/12 "2013-08-25T07:05:47Z")
A314/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) yes - but IH takes this to a new level (Edit - scrub that, I’m having a particularly dozy sinday!). A314/IH/P74 is good at your age, around women mid-late 20s and older. TAL - Not seen a lot of discussion of that in the fallout context and from what I remember most of it was of the “god-no!” variety. You need to have a good read of the existing fallout threads and maybe move this over to one of them when you start - To keep the knowledge in one more easily found place.