# NEWBIES READ HERE: The Ultimate Pheromone Introduction Pack **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 23, 2012, 11:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322 "2012-01-23T23:07:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/64 "2014-10-21T01:22:33Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > Mobo, you are such a trooper! And where have you been hiding yourself lately! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/65 "2014-10-21T04:30:59Z")
Hey, Mobo! Itā€™s nice to be missed! My dad has been battling cancer for a while, and he had to go into the hospital a few months ago. Heā€™s still there now. I also injured my foot a few months ago, and am still on crutches (Iā€™ve been refusing to go on dates while on crutches). All the while, I still need to be at the hospital taking care of my dad and doing my grad school studies. It has been hectic, and I have been isolating myself a bit (and certainly not making use of pheros). But I couldnā€™t stay away forever, I miss you guys! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/66 "2014-10-21T20:58:24Z")
I hope it all goes well with your dad and you are up to fitness again soon. A close friend is going through much the same with his father and its taking quite a toll on him and the rest of his family - I have my own issues with an elderly mother as well but its at the point where its more about seeing sheā€™s made comfortable and helped to cope rather than active treatment. However she is doing ok, with pain and mobility/activity levels managed for now. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2014, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/67 "2014-10-22T00:51:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I hope it all goes well with your dad and you are up to fitness again soon. > > A close friend is going through much the same with his father and its taking quite a toll on him and the rest of his family - I have my own issues with an elderly mother as well but its at the point where its more about seeing sheā€™s made comfortable and helped to cope rather than active treatment. However she is doing ok, with pain and mobility/activity levels managed for now. Thank you for the kind words, Mobo. I sympathize with your situation with your mother. A few weeks ago, the doctors were prepared to recommend hospice for my dad. His health started improving a little bit, so now weā€™re trying to see if he can get a little bit stronger. It is difficult to know what will happen, because his improvements are so slight, and his challenges are still so great. I hope that your mother is happy and comfortable, and that you are able to spend some quality time with her. ---
**Author:** ![rayroc61](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/958977/32.png) [@rayroc61](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rayroc61)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/68 "2014-10-26T02:32:19Z")
hello pheromone enthusiasts, Iā€™m ray from nyc, took a deep dive with a314a spray to test, im say I ran out fast and then followed with my second spray, the first purchase the bottle was leaking and the michaelia gave me a gift certificate which I bought a314 oil and ammo, Iā€™ve been testing the oil 2 drops not much effect ( my expectation didnā€™t match with the spray, so i kept my self researching in the forum and realized the potency of the oil vs. spray, nothing much i noticed with the oil, how long to feel the effects? i have about week including today, and amped it with 2 sprays of ammo to see if any, nadaā€¦the spray really gave me a boost like no other, will have to back to the spray in 30ml bottle because 5ml 40 sprays goes quickly or maybe give the oil more time i guessā€¦is oil better in the summer? vs spray in the winter?, im in sales and i need to be in my A game most of the time, i want to say thanks to Androtics team for a incredible product especially the spray..so far my numbers are moving upwards, i was really in a rut, and i was about to quit, i took a chance and it save me from giving up, so if any can advise me on this whether spray is better in the winter and oil in the summer ? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/69 "2014-10-26T04:35:10Z")
> [@rayroc61](#): > > hello pheromone enthusiasts, Iā€™m ray from nyc, took a deep dive with a314a spray to test, im say I ran out fast and then followed with my second spray, the first purchase the bottle was leaking and the michaelia gave me a gift certificate which I bought a314 oil and ammo, Iā€™ve been testing the oil 2 drops not much effect ( my expectation didnā€™t match with the spray, so i kept my self researching in the forum and realized the potency of the oil vs. spray, nothing much i noticed with the oil, how long to feel the effects? i have about week including today, and amped it with 2 sprays of ammo to see if any, nadaā€¦the spray really gave me a boost like no other, will have to back to the spray in 30ml bottle because 5ml 40 sprays goes quickly or maybe give the oil more time i guessā€¦is oil better in the summer? vs spray in the winter?, im in sales and i need to be in my A game most of the time, i want to say thanks to Androtics team for a incredible product especially the spray..so far my numbers are moving upwards, i was really in a rut, and i was about to quit, i took a chance and it save me from giving up, so if any can advise me on this whether spray is better in the winter and oil in the summer ? Rather than pitch-up on random/ancient/unrelated threads, you would do a lot better by starting **your own thread** in the Intro Forum, copying-in this info and telling us a bit more about yourself, your situation, how you want to use pheros, the sort of people you want to influence and the sort of places/environments you might use them - This all has influence and will help get you good advice and the GC. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Jhyzel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@Jhyzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jhyzel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/70 "2014-11-03T20:10:12Z")
Can Wait to try ---
**Author:** ![kiritoyamata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kiritoyamata](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kiritoyamata)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/71 "2014-12-16T20:31:59Z")
i for some reson got get the 25 gift certifacate for the forum i just want to try that tuth one but it wont let me open the link for the gift card ---
**Author:** ![billynavarro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/billynavarro/32/2313_2.png) [@billynavarro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/billynavarro)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/72 "2014-12-17T02:06:59Z")
Good info, friend! Thanks!!! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![xSkInNeRx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xskinnerx/32/1775_2.png) [@xSkInNeRx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xSkInNeRx)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/73 "2014-12-17T02:09:48Z")
I am for one waiting to get that $25 gift certificate so I can make my first order and get the ultimate pack (killerkit) After that, my journey will begin.. I will be able to test each one and record my results.. I will definitely open up a journal entry so you guys could track it as well. Still waiting on Gia or whichever mod who approves it ---
**Author:** ![Biatchzxz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Biatchzxz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Biatchzxz)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/74 "2014-12-20T06:00:14Z")
> [@xSkInNeRx](#): > > I am for one waiting to get that $25 gift certificate so I can make my first order and get the ultimate pack (killerkit) > > After that, my journey will begin.. I will be able to test each one and record my results.. I will definitely open up a journal entry so you guys could track it as well. > > Still waiting on Gia or whichever mod who approves it Yeah sheā€™ll take care of you. Gia is super cool about everything. Youā€™ll get it for sure. I must say probably the only store that actually keeps there word about stuff. Any difference between the Killer vs Ultimate pack by any chance. Just curious is all. Just asking out of curiousity. Gonna make an order myself of some full size bottles in the next few days. These products ROCK! IM addicted dude no joke. Itā€™s crazy how addicted I am to this stuff. Thanks AD for all the work you put into to making extraordinary products and thanks to all the staff for being so helpful and caring. ---
**Author:** ![nicminnesota2015](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@nicminnesota2015](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nicminnesota2015)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2015, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/75 "2015-02-17T15:56:56Z")
I just got my MB and I also have AMMO and another. Iā€™m really loving the smells. I have yet to be in a bigger open crowd, but from my experience so far a lot of people have been more friendly and open to me. Iā€™m on week one. So time will tell. Btw Hi everyone! šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![rightguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rightguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rightguy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/76 "2015-02-19T08:44:51Z")
Hello Guys, How are you all? my name is samy,am from Africa,am in my early 30ā€™s,i came in contact with the site through a search for boredom killer and how to get connected with my dream girl,am a shy kind of person and unfortunately did not get into women thing on time so that made me unable to speak to women even when they like me. My question is this,how do i win the heart of a woman i have not seen physically before vice versa,how do i make her fall so much in love with me than she can imagine or control. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/77 "2015-02-19T10:30:00Z")
> [@rightguy](#): > > Hello Guys, > > How are you all? my name is samy,am from Africa,am in my early 30ā€™s,i came in contact with the site through a search for boredom killer and how to get connected with my dream girl,am a shy kind of person and unfortunately did not get into women thing on time so that made me unable to speak to women even when they like me. > > My question is this,how do i win the heart of a woman i have not seen physically before vice versa,how do i make her fall so much in love with me than she can imagine or control. > > Thank you. Hey there, Best to make a new topic for this and make some copy-pasta šŸ˜‰ This is not the best topic to ask these questions though šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/78 "2015-02-19T10:59:33Z")
> [@rightguy](#): > > Hello Guys, > > How are you all? my name is samy,am from Africa,am in my early 30ā€™s,i came in contact with the site through a search for boredom killer and how to get connected with my dream girl,am a shy kind of person and unfortunately did not get into women thing on time so that made me unable to speak to women even when they like me. > > My question is this,how do i win the heart of a woman i have not seen physically before vice versa,how do i make her fall so much in love with me than she can imagine or control. > > Thank you. C&P this over to the Lounge In short, set yourself apart from the rest of the guys. Be a shoulder to lean on, and an emotional void - the guy she goes to when feeling down or needing support. Donā€™t be overly flirty/sexual, you want to be the long-term protector, not a guy looking to hook up, but throw some signs in when the time is right. ---
**Author:** ![suhvannakaye621](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@suhvannakaye621](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/suhvannakaye621)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/79 "2015-04-16T08:20:37Z")
Hi there, Iā€™m new here. Iā€™m 21, kind of shy. Looking to see if any of this can help me make some new friends. Any advice or words of wisdom are welcome šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/80 "2015-04-16T08:22:09Z")
Hello suhvannakaye621, best to make a new thread and we we gladly help you out šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/81 "2015-04-18T06:17:23Z")
Ok so Iā€™m new to Androtics products,and based on what i have been reading also a newb when it comes to putative molecules. I want to learn more and possjbly come up with some of my own mixes in the future, but first i must have the go around. I didnā€™t order the pack but i did order an experimental mix and hope to test it out soon as it comes in. I may start out with 1 spray then up it by 1 every hour until i see results. One question on this method though; is it possoble to OD on these products? And if so what has been the average amount before Odā€™ing? Iā€™m 29 Mexican and live in California, and it gets pretty hot down here 120 or so. I was thinking that if there are any oil mixes i can use that would be nice, but also the question rises that how many applixations would i need throughout the day to keep it consistent? Last question, is it possible to mix MX351 with say a none product like taboo, Bad Wolf (and regular Wolf), or even Cohesion? I appreciate any info sent my way thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/82 "2015-04-23T08:24:00Z")
> [@pherosloth](#): > > Ok so Iā€™m new to Androtics products,and based on what i have been reading also a newb when it comes to putative molecules. I want to learn more and possjbly come up with some of my own mixes in the future, but first i must have the go around. I didnā€™t order the pack but i did order an experimental mix and hope to test it out soon as it comes in. I may start out with 1 spray then up it by 1 every hour until i see results. One question on this method though; is it possoble to OD on these products? And if so what has been the average amount before Odā€™ing? Iā€™m 29 Mexican and live in California, and it gets pretty hot down here 120 or so. I was thinking that if there are any oil mixes i can use that would be nice, but also the question rises that how many applixations would i need throughout the day to keep it consistent? Last question, is it possible to mix MX351 with say a none product like taboo, Bad Wolf (and regular Wolf), or even Cohesion? I appreciate any info sent my way thanks! Hello, Pherosloth! First off, have you introduced yourself in the ā€œintroductionsā€ section yet? If you do that, you will be given a $25 gift certificate. You could just copy and paste everything you wrote here, because it looks like a pretty good introduction. To answer your question, yes, it is possible to OD on these products. But donā€™t worry, itā€™s not dangerous like a drug OD. It would just mean that you donā€™t get very good effects. Depending on what youā€™re using, some OD effects could be that it makes you or other people moody or irritated, you could experience a ā€œcrashā€ (headache, tiredness, etc.), people could become overwhelmed by your pheromone signature and just avoid you altogether, etc. Every molecule has different effects and different strengths, so OD happens at a very different threshold for each product. And since every person is different, OD happens at a different level for each person, too. The only oil-based product AD offers is A314, but if you browse the forum, plenty of users have tackled the issue of keeping pheromones from dissipating too quickly in hot environments. Some solutions involve layering it with lotion, spraying it on your hair (but a few of the molecules should NEVER be sprayed on hair), etc. Dissipation happens at different rates, so youā€™d have to feel out what works best for your situation. You shouldnā€™t test the way you described, by putting on one spray per hour until you see results. Thatā€™s really rushing the test, and you wonā€™t get good results. Some products take time to work up to their full effectiveness, and some kick in rather quickly. Some products last for a long time (8 hours or more), while some wear off pretty quickly (2 or 3 hours). And some products get great results in very specific types of settings (depending on the sorts of people you are around, what the general attitude is like, what your own attitude is like, etc.), while others are broader and more generally effective. A good way to start testing is by putting on one or 2 sprays for your first try. Then just observe yourself and others for the next 4 hours or so. Try to notice if you feel any different, if friends or coworkers act any differently around you, if strangers interact with you any differently, etc. Try to experience different types of settings, too (romantic, professional, friendly, large groups, small groups, etc.). Try to notice if you feel the effects wearing off after any amount of time. Then the next day, increase the number of sprays slightly. Increase a little more the next day. It may take you a number of days before you figure out what dose is good for you, and what social setting it works best in. But donā€™t rush things, the patience is worth it! ---
**Author:** ![pherosloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f04885/32.png) [@pherosloth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherosloth)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322/83 "2015-04-23T12:04:17Z")
> [@Miss\_Dragon](#): > > Hello, Pherosloth! > > First off, have you introduced yourself in the ā€œintroductionsā€ section yet? If you do that, you will be given a $25 gift certificate. You could just copy and paste everything you wrote here, because it looks like a pretty good introduction. > > To answer your question, yes, it is possible to OD on these products. But donā€™t worry, itā€™s not dangerous like a drug OD. It would just mean that you donā€™t get very good effects. Depending on what youā€™re using, some OD effects could be that it makes you or other people moody or irritated, you could experience a ā€œcrashā€ (headache, tiredness, etc.), people could become overwhelmed by your pheromone signature and just avoid you altogether, etc. Every molecule has different effects and different strengths, so OD happens at a very different threshold for each product. And since every person is different, OD happens at a different level for each person, too. > > The only oil-based product AD offers is A314, but if you browse the forum, plenty of users have tackled the issue of keeping pheromones from dissipating too quickly in hot environments. Some solutions involve layering it with lotion, spraying it on your hair (but a few of the molecules should NEVER be sprayed on hair), etc. Dissipation happens at different rates, so youā€™d have to feel out what works best for your situation. > > You shouldnā€™t test the way you described, by putting on one spray per hour until you see results. Thatā€™s really rushing the test, and you wonā€™t get good results. Some products take time to work up to their full effectiveness, and some kick in rather quickly. Some products last for a long time (8 hours or more), while some wear off pretty quickly (2 or 3 hours). And some products get great results in very specific types of settings (depending on the sorts of people you are around, what the general attitude is like, what your own attitude is like, etc.), while others are broader and more generally effective. > > A good way to start testing is by putting on one or 2 sprays for your first try. Then just observe yourself and others for the next 4 hours or so. Try to notice if you feel any different, if friends or coworkers act any differently around you, if strangers interact with you any differently, etc. Try to experience different types of settings, too (romantic, professional, friendly, large groups, small groups, etc.). Try to notice if you feel the effects wearing off after any amount of time. Then the next day, increase the number of sprays slightly. Increase a little more the next day. It may take you a number of days before you figure out what dose is good for you, and what social setting it works best in. But donā€™t rush things, the patience is worth it! Thanks for the info and i thought this was the intro thread xD, somehow i must have mind read you cause that is exactly what i have been doing since i posted. Ill wear 1 thing and use it for the day and the wash application points the next morning, or use it for a full 8 hour period more or less and then wash application points and wait a bit before applying something else. Although that latter 1 may add build up without some proper stuff to wash off. As for OD, ive noticed people around me getting headaches so ill have to be the little scientific observer to see if its me or them naturally (They get headaches on their own for various reasons with glasses etc.). Also just to make sure where would the majority of headaches occur? More around the temporal lobes like the top of the head? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322.md?page=5)