# Night at the bar :D **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542 "2009-01-30T09:02:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/1 "2009-01-30T09:02:55Z")
I used a mixture today of 1 drop of A314 1x, 3 sprays of TUTH 1x, 2 sprays of IO 2x, and 4 sprays of IH 1x, and 1 spray of EOW dilution (8 drops EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol). We drove to a club together with my friend, and another guy was with us as well. The club was literally empty, so we decided before even entering, to go to another bar instead. . 😃 We drank a pitcher of beer between us 3, and I drank 1 shot of Long Island Iced Tea, and had my very first taste of Yager Bomb but I hated the taste of the Yager Bomb. It reminded me of cough syrup with alcohol, is the best way I can describe it. The beer and Long Island Iced Tea together fucked me up a bit. I was buzzed, but not drunk. I still have a headache tomorrow and wish I wasnt working in a few hours. I talked to a few very hot ladies, who seemed to like me and my [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature. There was this one girl that I talked to most of the night. She was 24 yrs old, blonde hair, brown eyes, beautiful, smaller type of girl. I asked if she had a bf and she just said (“kinda sorta”, and gave a grin and a smile). I took this as she was seeing someone, but not really committed to him or interested in him, so I figured she was fair game. 😃. We got really close while sitting down and listening to a live band and rubbed up against each other, and were very close to each other talking, because it was so hard to hear each other. By the end of the night when I had to leave with my friend, I asked for her number. This is the fucked up part. I think she liked me, but she first said she didnt have a phone, and it turns out she did. Then later when I found out about it, I questioned her, and she said she was a “devil”, and "I couldn’t handle her, and she would corrupt me, and she wasn’t worth the time for me to get to know, and was too much, and I seemed innocent so she didnt want to do that "☹. So I just accepted this fact, and asked if we could meet up sometime in the future. She said she lives in Dallas, but told me a few clubs she always hangs at, and told me her name, and supposedly lots of people know her lol. I dunno if that is a good or bad thing. She seemed very innocent which took me by surprise, but only time will tell. I probably won’t ever see her again, but who knows, maybe I will. 🙄 Anyways later. FUCK MY HEAD HURTS. lol ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/2 "2009-01-30T14:19:39Z")
Two things Don’t diss my Yager bomb!!! They have brough me many good nights with plenty of women!!! ok now that is out of the way LOL This girls is playing hard to get and is a player herself and is playing head games with you. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/3 "2009-01-30T14:26:44Z")
translation from hotchick: im fun tonight, but i dont know if i want to be fun tomorow just yet. im not that easy. impress me. ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/4 "2009-01-30T18:21:09Z")
Thanks a lot Lor and Denec…keep the comments, tips, advice, suggestions coming. I need it ☹ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/5 "2009-01-30T18:27:47Z")
Screw that man! Don’t beg a girl that MIGHT already have a reputation (unless you don’t care about that.) Plus, she lied which means she may lie again. Even though she may be playing hard to get, do you really want to play her game when there are many other girls who’d hook up with you (or any guy) ASAP without head games and just normal getting to know one another? I say you play the Alpha male part and flick her off, there’s many more nice girls who want the same thing you probably want without all the games. ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/6 "2009-01-30T18:29:25Z")
yeah you’re right mikoto…i’ll probably never meet her again, but it was good and fun while it lasted. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/7 "2009-01-30T18:31:15Z")
> [@revivia](#): > > yeah you’re right mikoto…i’ll probably never meet her again, but it was good and fun while it lasted. 🆒 There you go, don’t worry kiddo. You’ll get something before you know it! ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/8 "2009-01-30T18:35:20Z")
yeah I hope so…I usually don’t sweat minor stuff…I don’t get all depressed, or sad, or mope around etc, anything like that…I am just a tad disappointed and upset thats all, but im over it now…I’m hoping to go again soon, but drinks are expensive so I dunno…I’d rather find a cheaper alternative with the same amount or more of hot chicks, wherever that might be. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/9 "2009-01-30T18:45:09Z")
> [@revivia](#): > > I used a mixture today of 1 drop of A314 1x, 3 sprays of TUTH 1x, 2 sprays of IO 2x, and 4 sprays of IH 1x, and 1 spray of EOW dilution (8 drops EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol). I am 20 yrs old, and drove to a club together with my friend, and another guy was with us as well. The club was literally empty, so we decided before even entering, to go to another bar instead. Although you are supposed to be 21 yrs old and up, my friend and his friend are good friends with the people are the bar, so we dont even get ID checked. 😃 > > We drank a pitcher of beer between us 3, and I drank 1 shot of Long Island Iced Tea, and had my very first taste of Yager Bomb but I hated the taste of the Yager Bomb. It reminded me of cough syrup with alcohol, is the best way I can describe it. The beer and Long Island Iced Tea together fucked me up a bit. I was buzzed, but not drunk. I still have a headache tomorrow and wish I wasnt working in a few hours. > > I talked to a few very hot ladies, who seemed to like me and my pheromone signature. There was this one girl that I talked to most of the night. She was 24 yrs old, blonde hair, brown eyes, beautiful, smaller type of girl. I asked if she had a bf and she just said (“kinda sorta”, and gave a grin and a smile). I took this as she was seeing someone, but not really committed to him or interested in him, so I figured she was fair game. 😃. We got really close while sitting down and listening to a live band and rubbed up against each other, and were very close to each other talking, because it was so hard to hear each other. By the end of the night when I had to leave with my friend, I asked for her number. This is the fucked up part. I think she liked me, but she first said she didnt have a phone, and it turns out she did. Then later when I found out about it, I questioned her, and she said she was a “devil”, and "I couldn’t handle her, and she would corrupt me, and she wasn’t worth the time for me to get to know, and was too much, and I seemed innocent so she didnt want to do that "☹. So I just accepted this fact, and asked if we could meet up sometime in the future. She said she lives in Dallas, but told me a few clubs she always hangs at, and told me her name, and supposedly lots of people know her lol. I dunno if that is a good or bad thing. She seemed very innocent which took me by surprise, but only time will tell. I probably won’t ever see her again, but who knows, maybe I will. 🙄 Anyways later. > > FUCK MY HEAD HURTS. lol You asked how you could have gotten the girl. Here’s my opinion. First of all… drinking and 'moning is never good unless you know your limits with alcohol. Since you are fairly new to drinking, and don’t, you made a mistake right there by potentially overdoing it and losing some control and awareness. Second mistake is that you didn’t pay attention when she said she wasn’t really interested. Lor hit the nail on the head, but she left something out. This girl was considering you, and was interested in fun (and possibly you) but you were not giving her the right signals to be more interested. Chalk that one up to inexperience too… and remember that in any interaction with a woman you are interested in, your goal should always be to get her to want to do what you want her to do, enough that she does it herself or at least suggests it. A girl who “kinda sorta” has a boyfriend: 1. Has a boyfriend or three, and 2. Doesn’t really much care. There’s a good reason I told you that I never touch a taken woman. Aside from that I don’t like having a woman I am involved with being sniped, and I don’t want it to happen to me, a woman who is willing to play when she’s involved isn’t the kind of woman you want anyway… unless you’re just looking for fun too. If you’re looking for fun, taken women are still dangerous to play with. Ironically, the best thing you could have done would have been to lose interest when she indicated she “kinda sorta” had a boyfriend. It’s human nature to want what you can’t have (on her part) and you losing interest would have said very clearly that you have other options, and you don’t need her. That’s usually very attractive to a woman as well. Last but not least… and you have heard this before in this very post… you weren’t paying attention when she was trying to tell you in a nice way that she wasn’t interested. That’s why she gave you the BS about not having a phone. What woman doesn’t have a phone these days? So now you have a very clear “I don’t want to communicate with you beyond this” followed by a lie… and a lie is an absolute dealbreaker in my book. Liars are not worth the time it takes to say goodbye. If she can lie about something that could simply be handled with “No thanks, I’d really rather not”, then she can (and probably will) lie about anything and everything else. Sooo… how could you have gotten the girl? Stop wanting that one specific female so much. And I’d say it’s probably a good thing you didn’t get her anyway. That was a baby mamma drama waiting to happen if I ever saw one. My 2c. PS - It’s Jager, with two dots above the a. Not Yager. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/10 "2009-01-30T18:46:32Z")
> [@revivia](#): > > yeah I hope so…I usually don’t sweat minor stuff…I don’t get all depressed, or sad, or mope around etc, anything like that…I am just a tad disappointed and upset thats all, but im over it now…I’m hoping to go again soon, but drinks are expensive so I dunno…I’d rather find a cheaper alternative with the same amount or more of hot chicks, wherever that might be. 🙄 Ah, geez! I can tell you’re bummed bro. don’t be though! I know it sucks when you don’t get a good hit with a girl, or let alone a chance with one. However, being a little down won’t help. Maybe you’re trying too hard? I say you go out and just relax, let loose, and just let the night go by. Be friendly and cool, but just do it as if you’re not looking. Eventually a girl will think to herself “hey, why isn’t this guy trying to get at me?” Then if so, eventually they’ll want to try themselves to get at you. Now I’m not saying not to try period, but just let it happen and don’t worry. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/11 "2009-01-30T18:49:05Z")
she was an ego-boost, so when you didnt get her, of course you are dissapointed. …unless it was love at first sight, and im not inclined to think it unless you stated it. you are more than some hotchicks opinion,and honestly she probably thought highly of you because most gals dont want _flings_ with guys they want thinking highly of _them_. make sense? ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/12 "2009-01-30T18:50:10Z")
2 tylenols and gatorade, you’ll be better in 20 mins ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/13 "2009-01-30T18:52:48Z")
Plenty of awesome advice here, and if I can add just one thing, it’s this: Try to act like you don’t give a damn. What I mean is, be fun, have fun, but don’t let yourself get blinders on for one person. You want to give the impression that YOU are the catch and are in demand and if they want a piece of the action, they need to act quick or you’ll just as soon walk away with no skin off your back. Don’t be an asshole about it, but don’t slide into wussydom either. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/14 "2009-01-30T18:54:55Z")
thanks a lot for the support…you guys and ladies are the best 😃…you give great advice mikoto and catlord..thanks…and to the rest of you as well ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/15 "2009-01-30T18:58:13Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > You asked how you could have gotten the girl. Here’s my opinion. > > First of all… drinking and 'moning is never good unless you know your limits with alcohol. Since you are fairly new to drinking, and don’t, you made a mistake right there by potentially overdoing it and losing some control and awareness. > > Second mistake is that you didn’t pay attention when she said she wasn’t really interested. Lor hit the nail on the head, but she left something out. This girl was considering you, and was interested in fun (and possibly you) but you were not giving her the right signals to be more interested. Chalk that one up to inexperience too… and remember that in any interaction with a woman you are interested in, your goal should always be to get her to want to do what you want her to do, enough that she does it herself or at least suggests it. > > A girl who “kinda sorta” has a boyfriend: > > 1. Has a boyfriend or three, and > 2. Doesn’t really much care. > > There’s a good reason I told you that I never touch a taken woman. Aside from that I don’t like having a woman I am involved with being sniped, and I don’t want it to happen to me, a woman who is willing to play when she’s involved isn’t the kind of woman you want anyway… unless you’re just looking for fun too. If you’re looking for fun, taken women are still dangerous to play with. > > Ironically, the best thing you could have done would have been to lose interest when she indicated she “kinda sorta” had a boyfriend. It’s human nature to want what you can’t have (on her part) and you losing interest would have said very clearly that you have other options, and you don’t need her. That’s usually very attractive to a woman as well. > > Last but not least… and you have heard this before in this very post… you weren’t paying attention when she was trying to tell you in a nice way that she wasn’t interested. That’s why she gave you the BS about not having a phone. What woman doesn’t have a phone these days? So now you have a very clear “I don’t want to communicate with you beyond this” followed by a lie… and a lie is an absolute dealbreaker in my book. Liars are not worth the time it takes to say goodbye. If she can lie about something that could simply be handled with “No thanks, I’d really rather not”, then she can (and probably will) lie about anything and everything else. > > Sooo… how could you have gotten the girl? Stop wanting that one specific female so much. And I’d say it’s probably a good thing you didn’t get her anyway. That was a baby mamma drama waiting to happen if I ever saw one. > > My 2c. > > PS - It’s Jager, with two dots above the a. Not Yager. 😉 another thing about why gals lie- if they think you are too drunk to understand their situation, and i see it all the time, its their way of being nice. yes, alot of women think its kinder to lie. it spares having to give out alot of information your not interested in _just so that you’ll know it isnt because your not a hottie too._ i cant tell you how many times i will start saying “hey guy its not you, its just that -” and i will get interupted with “you just dont like me, thats it” and um, _its not that at all._ more often than not, its a hot guy with a poopy self-esteem that thinks im lying when i say i have a boyfriend/dig someone else 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/16 "2009-01-30T18:59:15Z")
> [@data4](#): > > Plenty of awesome advice here, and if I can add just one thing, it’s this: Try to act like you don’t give a damn. What I mean is, be fun, have fun, but don’t let yourself get blinders on for one person. You want to give the impression that YOU are the catch and are in demand and if they want a piece of the action, they need to act quick or you’ll just as soon walk away with no skin off your back. Don’t be an asshole about it, but don’t slide into wussydom either. > > -D4 The key is to be at balance, not act like it. You have to internalize and become this state of self contentment and peace with being by yourself before you can get your body language to say the same thing you are trying to pretend otherwise, and women can read body language like it’s their first language, because in a lot of ways, it is. Become self sufficient, and you will succeed. Pretend to be self sufficient, and she will know faster than the blink of an eye. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/17 "2009-01-30T19:00:27Z")
> [@revivia](#): > > She said she lives in Dallas, but told me a few clubs she always hangs at, and told me her name, and supposedly lots of people know her lol. I dunno if that is a good or bad thing. She seemed very innocent which took me by surprise, but only time will tell. I probably won’t ever see her again, but who knows, maybe I will. 🙄 Anyways later. If they are Dallas clubs, name them and I can probably tell you about the type of crowd. > [@revivia](#): > > By the end of the night when I had to leave with my friend, I asked for her number. This is the fucked up part. I think she liked me, but she first said she didnt have a phone, and it turns out she did. Then later when I found out about it, I questioned her, and she said she was a “devil”, and "I couldn’t handle her, and she would corrupt me, and she wasn’t worth the time for me to get to know, and was too much, and I seemed innocent so she didnt want to do that Ah the games. On the phone thing, when you found out she had one but didn’t wanna give you her number, I probably would have said something along the lines of: Thats cool, I probably wouldn’t have called anyway, which could have got her to thinking a bit about it. On being the devil and corrupting you, I probably would have just smiled and said something like: Well at least you’re unbreakable, try me! And, on the innocent comment, I think I would have remarked: yeah it took me forever to learn how to pull that off. Just my 2 cents, but it sounds like she was at least somewhat into you, and the comments were to test you. ---
**Author:** ![revivia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/revivia/32/2124_2.png) [@revivia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/revivia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/18 "2009-01-30T19:02:15Z")
she said candlelight i think the name was, Aurora, and one other one i forgot ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/19 "2009-01-30T19:02:48Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > The key is to be at balance, not act like it. You have to internalize and become this state of self contentment and peace with being by yourself before you can get your body language to say the same thing you are trying to pretend otherwise, and women can read body language like it’s their first language, because in a lot of ways, it is. > > Become self sufficient, and you will succeed. Pretend to be self sufficient, and she will know faster than the blink of an eye. you are so freaking hot. i think you need to lecture me in private messages 😃 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542/20 "2009-01-30T19:02:49Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > another thing about why gals lie- > > if they think you are too drunk to understand their situation, and i see it all the time, its their way of being nice. > > yes, alot of women think its kinder to lie. > > it spares having to give out alot of information your not interested in _just so that you’ll know it isnt because your not a hottie too._ > > i cant tell you how many times i will start saying “hey guy its not you, its just that -” > and i will get interupted with “you just dont like me, thats it” > > and um, _its not that at all._ > more often than not, its a hot guy with a poopy self-esteem that thinks im lying when i say i have a boyfriend/dig someone else 🙄 I know that a lot of women think it is kinder to lie, but this backfires in the language of men for the fact that it marks her as a liar and that loses respect and trust from a man very quickly. Men are very direct and blunt in their communication typically, and a thing either is or it isn’t. After enough “kindness” lies, he gets very tired of being lied to at all, trust me. On the other hand, she’s there trying to be nice, not blow her chances, and not be assaulted verbally as being a bitch, I know. But there are better ways to handle things than to lie. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night-at-the-bar-d/25542.md?page=2)