# Night\_Hawk's Pheremone Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [December 2, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688 "2010-12-02T16:05:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/61 "2014-10-12T14:16:45Z")

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So, I’ve trialled the 30ml Mk3 mix; and now for the conclusions over the 2-Go size.

Well, I’ve noticed some significant differences.

1. The spray coverage is a lot more and over a bigger area of my skin, than with the 2-Go version. Therefore, I seem to be drowning myself in spray with the 2 to the front of my neck and one to the back of my neck!! For that reason, I think I may be using too much!

2. The scent seems to be more of a cologne in that it appears to be stronger. The subtle scent of peach is there, but not as noticeable at when I use the same mix in the 2-Go form.

3. The effects on others have been slightly different. Thankfully, I’m not getting the ‘man-eater’ effect from those two co-workers, as I did with the 2-Go version, it does appear to be the effects of confusion around those two with this 30ml version, so I’m guessing it is an OD effect being a bigger spray/wider coverage??

The other co-workers seem to still act friendly, chatty, in a social manner; which is fair enough, good enough to start up a convo and make you ‘one of the team’.

…I’ve gone back to a 2-go version again for further testing, I’m going to make sure that it is the 30ml dosage that has made the changes; and not my imagination. I’ll be testing it again tonight and for the next couple of days, but all in all, for the purpose of ‘Franky Mk3’, this mix appears to only suit the 2-Go bottles; and if that does turn out to be the case, I shall be making up several bottles, lol.

I’ll be back by Friday with the findings; and will then look upon the store for my next order, as it is coming to the time of year when we have the Xmas party; and trialling is the best place to do it!! 🙂

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/62 "2014-10-27T19:13:17Z")

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Well, yep, the 2-Go version seems to have better results than the 30ml version, I guess less is more.

I’ve made a promise to myself that come January, I shall be moving onto other mones within the store to test out. After all, this is what we’re all here for, to test out the products, and post back the results, plus find which ones we’d buy again that have a positive use.

I wouldn’t mind trying the other fragrances, too! As much as I love the scent of [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), I think for testing purposes, trying mones with a different fragrance is a must; and so, that is my goal come the new year.

But for now, I’m heading over to the store to make a small purchase of P91, P74 and Tac (Molecule C); and fingers crossed there’s no bugs in the system. 😉

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/63 "2014-10-30T01:56:53Z")

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I’m deffo scratching my head with the email notification system; and being greeted with the ‘view cart’ section when I login to my store account.

I got an email on Tuesday to say the order had gone to the lab, ie ‘Processing’, no problem I understand it takes up to ten days to get made. But, on logging into the account, I’m faced with the contents of the cart (my order), were I have to click ‘continue shopping’ to get back to the AD store front!

I go to the ‘orders and tracking’ section; and the order shows as ‘shipped’ eh?? Thought it was being processed. Went into the order itself, grabbed the tracking number and loaded the DHL tracking site (as by clicking the ‘track it’ button in the AD tracking section forwards me to Fedex?!!).

I pasted the tracking number into the DHL tracking box; and sat there and went “No way, that was a fast 2-10 days!!” Order shipped on Tuesday; and is currently sat in the main sorting centre in Leipzig, Germany!!

What happened to the ‘shipped’ email?? …and viewing the cart on logging-in, is that the new thing in case you want to order repeat items and not re-search for them??

Who knows, but I expect my parcel will possibly arrive Friday or Saturday, a lot quicker than I was expecting it to; and just in time, as I’m running on fumes, lol. Can’t ask for a better service from the AD team, just wish I could get my head around that email notification system!!

Edit: Strewth, that was quick, it’s in the UK already; and looks like it may have cleared customs!! Might actually get it today, or at the very latest, tomorrow!!

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/64 "2014-10-30T23:18:16Z")

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It’s here, woohoo!

Wow, what great new packaging; and are these new style bottles?? I’m scratching my head again trying to work out if the 2-Go bottle is made of glass??!!

We’re back to purple bubble wrap!! Tape on the 2-Go (freebie of Molecule C - thank you), then sealed in a thick clear bag, then wrapped in white paper - although, I still loved the time I thought I was getting a free hamster with that other packaging method, lol!!

An invoice on FedEx letter headed paper, interesting, seeing as the box said DHL, but Meh, it’s here; and I’m greatly happy!! I may try and squeeze in one more order before the xmas shut-down, but I’ll have to wait and see, but for now it’s testing time!!

As I have no ammo, well, only a few drops left in the bottom of my 30 ml; and even then it’s mixed with the other 3 mones of ‘Franky Mk3’ I think this time around, I shall be just trying out P91, P74 and Molecule C. I think we know the results already, but taking the mix out into new environments for that extra testing is a must; and the xmas works party coming up on the 1st December, shall see me using that mix on those I’ve never met.

Anyone have any suggestions for the next mones to get?? Something I haven’t tried in the list of mones in my sig. Either way, you’ll know I’ll end up throwing a few different mones into a mad mix and hoping for the best. One thing is for certain, I’m steering well clear of Instant Jerk, had some bad experiences with that, seems to attract the wrong sort of people I go for. I do miss the original [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/), that was an instant hit when I tried it; and then sadly it stopped being sold! ☹ Apparently, there’s a new variant of it, but labelled under a different name, dunno what that is, wish I did, as I’d certainly try it.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/65 "2014-10-31T01:52:41Z")

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> [@Night\_Hawk](#):
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> Anyone have any suggestions for the next mones to get?? Something I haven’t tried in the list of mones in my sig. Either way, you’ll know I’ll end up throwing a few different mones into a mad mix and hoping for the best. One thing is for certain, I’m steering well clear of Instant Jerk, had some bad experiences with that, seems to attract the wrong sort of people I go for. I do miss the original Come Talk To Me, that was an instant hit when I tried it; and then sadly it stopped being sold! ☹ Apparently, there’s a new variant of it, but labelled under a different name, dunno what that is, wish I did, as I’d certainly try it.

As far as CTTM, I know that there is a series of 4 or so CTTM mixes in the MX’s. Sorry, I can’t offhand remember what they are coded as. But I bet the one you like is in there.

Something I think you might be interested to try is MX335. You can talk to Celtic Prince if you want to know about some of his experiences with using it. It has a pleasant vibe like IG or CTTM, but with a little more happiness, like IS. I’ve been calling it IS’s kinder sister. It lasts longer, doesn’t hit as strongly, and has no crash. What I’m trying to find out is if it has that “women like to be all over me” vibe that IJ has, without the jerk part.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/66 "2014-10-31T14:35:44Z")

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Looks like I’ll be adding MX335 to the next order then, thanks for your reply Miss Dragon! 🙂

‘The crash’ effect is one of the reasons I switched to [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), as I get virtually the same IS results, minus feeling like I need to sleep forever a few hours after using it. ‘Jerk’ I’ve tried it 2 or 3 times over a year, out and about in bars/clubs; and for me, it just attracted the wrong type of person/attention, so I’ve been steering clear of it.

You’re right, there is a CTTM variant mix - MX405, MX406 and MX407. A customer wrote the following…

> [@](#):
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> “Excellent product set, 405 is great for work environments, 406 great for social or sales environments… I seem to get confused looks from people with 407 so I don’t use it that often. All in all a great set.”  
> Written by: Carlos Aragon (Yucaipa, CA)

I’ll add that to the order as well, looks like an interesting mix to try.

NH.

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/67 "2014-10-31T14:49:56Z")

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Give me a heads-up when you start reporting on mx335, if you please!

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/68 "2014-10-31T15:01:54Z")

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Will do. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/69 "2015-02-05T23:35:23Z")

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So, an email just dropped into my box from my favourite Company on the planet - AD!! Wow, has someone been working hard on new mixes!!

My supplies are almost exhausted, so it’s that time to start looking at what to buy on pay-day!!

MX335, was what was being discussed the last time I was here, can’t believe it was October, last year!! Didn’t think I’d been gone THAT long!! 😮

So, ‘Puppy Love’ lol, that looks like an interesting mix to try out, as does ‘Prince Charming V1.0’ and ‘Liquid Sunshine v2.0’.

So yep, it looks like this New Year will be the start of some major testing for me, can’t wait!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/70 "2015-02-05T23:59:23Z")

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OMG CTTM V2!!

**Dances around the room, like someone that’s won the lottery**

I hope pay-day is good to me, cos I’ll be going on a spending spree!!

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/71 "2015-02-18T14:56:51Z")

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Well, that’s it, the 1st order of 2015 has been placed!!

I wanted to wait till payday to get a few more items, but I’ve been out of all supplies for two weeks now; and I’m feeling and seeing the difference, due to using a bog standard spray aftershave.

On this 1st list is my favourites: P91, P74, TAC (MC), a 2-go of Ammo FF22 (where’s all the big bottles?!!? ☹ ); and new addition, 2-go CTTM V2.

My next order will be mid-April; and I’ll be looking at getting at least MX335 as recommended by Miss Dragon. Hopefully, by then, some of the other new products shall be available again, otherwise, I’ll just go for random MX Packs, or Putative mones. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/72 "2015-02-19T17:45:49Z")

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There’s some weird goings on with DHL, lol. Had this before, but last time it came a week after I got my parcel, not whilst it was till in the air from LA!!

So, switched my cell on after finishing work; and there’s a text message…

> [@](#):
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> DHL would like to deliver a shipment reference (The one listed on my AD order). 3.17GBP is payable for a VAT & or Admin charge. Payment should be made at [DHL - Pay Now](http://www.dhl.co.uk/epayments).

Last time, it was around 20GBP, so I’ve paid it in hope that this now doesn’t delay the parcels arrival. The arrival date has been quoted as Monday, fingers crossed. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/73 "2015-02-19T19:23:28Z")

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> [@Night\_Hawk](#):
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> There’s some weird goings on with DHL, lol. Had this before, but last time it came a week after I got my parcel, not whilst it was till in the air from LA!!
> 
> So, switched my cell on after finishing work; and there’s a text message…
> 
> Last time, it was around 20GBP, so I’ve paid it in hope that this now doesn’t delay the parcels arrival. The arrival date has been quoted as Monday, fingers crossed. 🙂

I get this every single time and I just ignore it - parcel delivers fine.

Let’s hope I don’t accumulate too much and get chased up by DHL in the future though! 🙄😃

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/74 "2015-02-19T23:49:36Z")

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I ignored the 1st two (before AD switched briefly to FedEx) and they held my parcel the 1st time at their East Midlands Facility and the 2nd time at their German (Leipzig) facility for several days. The minute I paid the invoice, you’d see the parcel tracker show it being back on the delivery route, and not “Held at customs waiting clearance.”

I seem to find it usually happens whenever the purchase cost goes over 100GBP. Anything below that, they don’t seem to bother, so maybe there’s a cap/cut-off before they start charging.

They also seem to send out the customs documents 2 weeks after the parcel has been delivered, documents that make no sense to me at all, so I’m hoping I don’t get hit with a bill somewhere down the line, for anything that may be on those ‘small print’ pages!! 😃

Have to say though, this is the 1st time they have contacted me via Text message. It usually comes as a letter (invoice) through the post, with full instructions on payment.

VAT charge I can understand, but admin charge? Strange, very strange!! 😕

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**Author:** ![mrseeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mrseeker/32/5177_2.png) [@mrseeker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrseeker)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/75 "2015-02-20T11:25:29Z")

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> [@Night\_Hawk](#):
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> VAT charge I can understand, but admin charge? Strange, very strange!! 😕

Normally its 10 EUR + VAT. 10 euro for the whole shebang of customs opening your package, checking your contents, finding the right TARIFF code and telling DHL to pay the bill. Its what I call the “handling” fee in the S&H.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/76 "2015-02-20T11:33:28Z")

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It’s just arrived. Doesn’t appear to have been opened by customs, as they tend to stick their lovely yellow tape on to the box, telling me they’ve been nosing around; and usually, one of the packages will have been tampered with. Nothing like that, it’s all sealed well!!

Must admit, it flew through customs a lot quicker than normal, one hour, looking at the tracking info, so maybe that payment is used to speed up the process, or just means to make a quick buck, lol, who knows. I’m just happy I’m not living of the fumes of an empty 2-go bottle anymore, lol. 😉

I’ll be taking the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with me to work today, maybe even the CTTMV2. God, have I seen a difference in people since I ran out, time to spread the love and make everyone happy again!! 😃

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/77 "2015-04-18T00:25:16Z")

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Wow, can’t believe it’s been 2 months since my last visit!! So, I’ve been testing the usual mix; and I can confirm that the mones most definitely have an effect on the people around me!! I’ve also seen a lot of hugging, which seems to get a lot of cheering from my male co-workers, when they spot it, lol. 😃

As the song goes (if you’re as old as me) “Shiny happy people holding hands.” Okie, maybe not so much holding hands, but definitely happy people; and in some cases, very talkative ones!!

I first mixed up half a 30ml bottle of P91 (10mcg per spray) with half a 30ml bottle of Molecule C (10mcg per spray). Each time I used it, I sprayed the mix 3 times - once to the front of my neck; and two sprays either side of the back of my neck. I seemed to get a better ‘hit’ with female co-workers when I sprayed these area. I used to spray my arms, but due to having to constantly wash my hands as part of my job, I came to realise, that I may be washing off the mones, although the hand dryer gives off a slight smell of neroli, so maybe it was still there?

Anyhow, I would also apply 2 sprays of P74 (10mcg per spray) to the front/back of my neck (that being one spray each side) every 2-3 hours into my shift (after applying the first 3 sprays of the P83/MC mix), as it would give me a ‘wake-up’ energy boost.

Since using the P83/MC mix, I’ve been getting a lot of the ladies asking what am I wearing, as the scent is really nice. Shockingly, it attracted a male colleague, yeah, he’s gay, not a problem, I’m not, but clearly something is going on in the mix to attract him, as he seems to stop dead when walking past and asks me what I’m wearing and says “That scent is really, really nice!” Maybe I should share the secret; and point him over here, [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) might be something he could find useful! 😉

Just out of curiosity \<\<no harm to any cats in writing that bit \>\> but does anyone here make up a name for their mones that they’re wearing, when asked what the scent is?? I got an odd look, as I suppose one would, when I said without thinking “P74” lol. Thank gawd I wasn’t wearing ‘TUTH’ as that could of been an awkward one to explain!! Now, there’s something I haven’t used for a while, hmm, this next order I think. 🙂

Anyhow, I’ve not used the FF22 ammo 2-Go or CTTMV2 as yet. I’ve been hanging onto that. It’s my birthday on the 22nd April, will be out clubbing it on the 25th April; and will be saving it for then!! I’ll be putting another order in on payday, the 23rd April, hopefully it will come before my night out with the co-workers on 30th April (fingers crossed), as I’m going to get the MX335 and a few others for testing.

I find some things work well in the workplace; and some just should never be used in that environment, those are for nights out; and that’s why I’ll be making a slightly different purchase to the norm on the 23rd! 🙂 As I said in other posts at the beginning of the year, this is my year for testing. I’m so used to using the same mones, it’s time once again to test. After all, that is why we all came to AD, to find something new, test it, see if it worked for us, report back (and keep using it), then test something new!

I love this Company, it has brought me many happy times since discovering the AD products; and I hope that the development of new products continues for many years to come!! 🙂

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/78 "2015-04-22T07:09:59Z")

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Happy Birthday to me, Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to meeee. Happy Birthday to me!!

39, Arghhh!! _Heads desk_ Pretty certain when I looked in the mirror this morning it made me look about 20, lol. 😃 Ah well, payday tomorrow and I’ll be browsing around the store to see what delights I can try out!!

Have a good day everyone!!

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/79 "2015-04-23T17:17:18Z")

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That’s it, the order has gone in!! …and thank you once again to the AD staff for being excellent!!

So Yeah, I have made a purchase of my favourites - [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) 10mcg and Tac (Molecule C?).

I’ve also added CTTMV2 and TUTH. TUTH is something I haven’t used in a very long time, so why not! 🙂 CTTMV2, that’s just a must-have item in the kit. Wish it came in a 30ml version!!

Now for the new mixes…

I said I would; and I’m keeping my word!

‘Miss Dragon’ mentioned I should try out MX335; and yep, the time has come that I will be. 🙂

I’ve also done a blind click of the mouse. Well, I actually I closed my eyes and pointed my finger on the screen. It didn’t go well at 1st lol, but I eventually chose MX353! 😃 I have no idea what they do, but we’re here to test, right, so that’s what I’ll be doing when they arrive; and shall report back with the results.

NH.

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**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/80 "2015-04-23T21:21:00Z")

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Oh WOW!! Wasn’t expecting it to ship the same day I ordered, next week maybe, lol. Talk about making my week extra special, thanks AD!!

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